Will AA step up and be our number one guy? Will Moss return and play the slot and be satisfied? Will Kelly show is true colors: stud or bust...?
Will Shanny find another "diamond" in the rough? Will we draft a #1 or pick up a Free Agent?
We can try for Vjax. How about T.O.....?
Below are some options:
2011 NFL Free Agent Receivers
By: Roshan Bhagat
Vincent Jackson (SD) – The Chargers still have a lot of progress to be made in retaining their own players. Philip Rivers found great success even without his big name receivers earlier in the year, which seems to make Vincent Jackson more expendable. Coach Norv Turner has paid complements to his star receiver, saying he’s a better player this year than he was last, which sends a message to the front office that they shouldn’t hesitate to bring him back in 2011 and onward.
Sidney Rice (MIN) – Coming back from a pretty serious hip injury, Rice continued to impress with his athletic ability and added to his highlight reel. His per game numbers didn’t mimic his dominant 2009 season, but that’s expected with lesser quarterback and offensive line play. Rice figures to play a large role in the organization’s future, making his re-signing every bit the priority of finding a playoff-caliber quarterback.
Santonio Holmes (NYJ) – Aside from the “character concerns,” the Steelers were quick to send Holmes packing to the highest bidder because of the expected cost in retaining Holmes this offseason. Now that decision will fall squarely on the shoulder of the Jets. Holmes is the best receiver in a very talented corps. He’s a good route runner and is known to come up big late in games. If the Jets have to choose only one of their two big name receivers, you’d have to think it would Holmes, who has the most targets and receptions on the team since week 5.
Braylon Edwards (NYJ) – Edwards has been the big play threat on an offense that is most explosive when the running game opens up the playaction to him down the field. Of the Jets’ star free agents this offseason, Edwards is the most likely to be let go though.
Malcom Floyd (SD) – Floyd was given the highest tender last offseason and proved worthy of the contract in the games he played. After Philip Rivers’ performance in the absence of both Floyd and Jackson, the Chargers may decide to only keep one of the two and trade the other to make improvements elsewhere (maybe a new special teams coach). Floyd is a tall, athletic downfield threat with the body control to become a number one receiver in the league.
Steve Smith (NYG) – Smith was the perfect slot receiver for the Giants’ terrific threesome and was on his way to his second consecutive 1000-yard season before an injury derailed him in the middle of the year and leaves the start of his 2011 season in jeopardy. The Giants will know his situation best and are therefore the frontrunners for Steve Smith.
Terrell Owens (CIN) – It looks like the mouth on this man is directly correlated with his performance. The minute he starts putting up some decent numbers, he begins sharing his nonsense again. Production for the 37 year old TO surprised many this season, but by late season, he began blaming the coaching staff for its’ offensive struggles which many have reported will keep the Bengals from bringing him back. If he can find a new home next year, it would be his 6th different team in 9 seasons. He’s burned plenty of bridges and already had plenty of difficulty finding a team last offseason and no team has proven to be more kind to players looking for another chance than the Bengals. Given the talented receiver free agent class, I have a feeling this could have been the last season from TO in the NFL.
Randy Moss (TEN) – No one predicted this 2010 season for Moss. Just as loudly as he entered the league over a decade ago, he seems to be going away just as quietly. The Titans placed the only waiver claim on Moss who was released after a catering incident in Minnesota. Like TO, has he burned too many bridges too? If there’s any team that can light a fuse in Moss, it’s his old Patriots, but do they want the headache? Brady certainly doesn’t seem to need the help anyway.
Mike Williams (SEA) – Is there anyone out there—Lions fans excluded—that didn’t love to see Mike Williams playing some good football for his old college coach? Let’s keep it simple, he’s staying in Seattle.
James Jones (GB) – Will the Packers be willing to pay Jones like a starting receiver? If not, he may be one of the first ones out of Green Bay if he becomes an unrestricted free agent. He’s as talented as any number of starting wideouts and has shown flashes that he could be just that. He has a knack of dropping passes here and there, but aside from that, James Jones is a complete receiver who can run the entire tree.
Steve Breaston (ARI) – The Cardinals know the health of Breaston’s knee better than any other teams. If it checks out clean, they also know his abilities better than anyone else. He’s a breakout star in the making and would form a formidable duo with Larry Fitzgerald if the team could get their quarterback situation untangled.
Other Notable Free Agents:
Early Doucet (ARZ)
Brian Finneran (ATL)
Donte' Stallworth (BAL)
TJ Houshmandzadeh (BAL)
Rashied Davis (CHI)
Devin Aromashadu (CHI)
Chansi Stuckey (CLE)
Sam Hurd (DAL)
Jacoby Jones (HOU)
Mike Sims-Walker (JAC)
Kevin Curtis (MIA)
Hank Baskett (MIN)
Greg Lewis (MIN)
Lance Moore (NO)
Courtney Roby (NO)
Derek Hagan (NYG)
Darius Reynaud (NYG)
Brad Smith (NYJ)
Johnnie Lee Higgins (OAK)
Legedu Naanee (SD)
Ben Obomanu (SEA)
Laurent Robinson (STL)
Danny Amendola (STL)
Mark Clayton (STL)
Maurice Stovall (TB)
Santana Moss (WAS)
tribeofjudah wrote:Will AA step up and be our number one guy? Will Moss return and play the slot and be satisfied? Will Kelly show is true colors: stud or bust...?
Will Shanny find another "diamond" in the rough? Will we draft a #1 or pick up a Free Agent?
We can try for Vjax. How about T.O.....?
Below are some options:
2011 NFL Free Agent Receivers
By: Roshan Bhagat
Vincent Jackson (SD) – The Chargers still have a lot of progress to be made in retaining their own players. Philip Rivers found great success even without his big name receivers earlier in the year, which seems to make Vincent Jackson more expendable. Coach Norv Turner has paid complements to his star receiver, saying he’s a better player this year than he was last, which sends a message to the front office that they shouldn’t hesitate to bring him back in 2011 and onward.
Sidney Rice (MIN) – Coming back from a pretty serious hip injury, Rice continued to impress with his athletic ability and added to his highlight reel. His per game numbers didn’t mimic his dominant 2009 season, but that’s expected with lesser quarterback and offensive line play. Rice figures to play a large role in the organization’s future, making his re-signing every bit the priority of finding a playoff-caliber quarterback.
Santonio Holmes (NYJ) – Aside from the “character concerns,” the Steelers were quick to send Holmes packing to the highest bidder because of the expected cost in retaining Holmes this offseason. Now that decision will fall squarely on the shoulder of the Jets. Holmes is the best receiver in a very talented corps. He’s a good route runner and is known to come up big late in games. If the Jets have to choose only one of their two big name receivers, you’d have to think it would Holmes, who has the most targets and receptions on the team since week 5.
Braylon Edwards (NYJ) – Edwards has been the big play threat on an offense that is most explosive when the running game opens up the playaction to him down the field. Of the Jets’ star free agents this offseason, Edwards is the most likely to be let go though.
Malcom Floyd (SD) – Floyd was given the highest tender last offseason and proved worthy of the contract in the games he played. After Philip Rivers’ performance in the absence of both Floyd and Jackson, the Chargers may decide to only keep one of the two and trade the other to make improvements elsewhere (maybe a new special teams coach). Floyd is a tall, athletic downfield threat with the body control to become a number one receiver in the league.
Steve Smith (NYG) – Smith was the perfect slot receiver for the Giants’ terrific threesome and was on his way to his second consecutive 1000-yard season before an injury derailed him in the middle of the year and leaves the start of his 2011 season in jeopardy. The Giants will know his situation best and are therefore the frontrunners for Steve Smith.
Terrell Owens (CIN) – It looks like the mouth on this man is directly correlated with his performance. The minute he starts putting up some decent numbers, he begins sharing his nonsense again. Production for the 37 year old TO surprised many this season, but by late season, he began blaming the coaching staff for its’ offensive struggles which many have reported will keep the Bengals from bringing him back. If he can find a new home next year, it would be his 6th different team in 9 seasons. He’s burned plenty of bridges and already had plenty of difficulty finding a team last offseason and no team has proven to be more kind to players looking for another chance than the Bengals. Given the talented receiver free agent class, I have a feeling this could have been the last season from TO in the NFL.
Randy Moss (TEN) – No one predicted this 2010 season for Moss. Just as loudly as he entered the league over a decade ago, he seems to be going away just as quietly. The Titans placed the only waiver claim on Moss who was released after a catering incident in Minnesota. Like TO, has he burned too many bridges too? If there’s any team that can light a fuse in Moss, it’s his old Patriots, but do they want the headache? Brady certainly doesn’t seem to need the help anyway.
Mike Williams (SEA) – Is there anyone out there—Lions fans excluded—that didn’t love to see Mike Williams playing some good football for his old college coach? Let’s keep it simple, he’s staying in Seattle.
James Jones (GB) – Will the Packers be willing to pay Jones like a starting receiver? If not, he may be one of the first ones out of Green Bay if he becomes an unrestricted free agent. He’s as talented as any number of starting wideouts and has shown flashes that he could be just that. He has a knack of dropping passes here and there, but aside from that, James Jones is a complete receiver who can run the entire tree.
Steve Breaston (ARI) – The Cardinals know the health of Breaston’s knee better than any other teams. If it checks out clean, they also know his abilities better than anyone else. He’s a breakout star in the making and would form a formidable duo with Larry Fitzgerald if the team could get their quarterback situation untangled.
Other Notable Free Agents:
Early Doucet (ARZ)
Brian Finneran (ATL)
Donte' Stallworth (BAL)
TJ Houshmandzadeh (BAL)
Rashied Davis (CHI)
Devin Aromashadu (CHI)
Chansi Stuckey (CLE)
Sam Hurd (DAL)
Jacoby Jones (HOU)
Mike Sims-Walker (JAC)
Kevin Curtis (MIA)
Hank Baskett (MIN)
Greg Lewis (MIN)
Lance Moore (NO)
Courtney Roby (NO)
Derek Hagan (NYG)
Darius Reynaud (NYG)
Brad Smith (NYJ)
Johnnie Lee Higgins (OAK)
Legedu Naanee (SD)
Ben Obomanu (SEA)
Laurent Robinson (STL)
Danny Amendola (STL)
Mark Clayton (STL)
Maurice Stovall (TB)
Santana Moss (WAS)
It will be Santana Moss again. I would love to see Kelly be the man but I have finally lost hope in him. AA could be a really good number 2. I think he just got on a roll and you can count on him next year.
What a shame about Kelly. They say he has great hands and could be our possession receiver. He most likely will be cut and gotten rid of.
I think Santana will be our slot WR and I hope we have him here but I also hope they find a big possession type WR to help out here
I don't think we need a 'star' we just need someone that can catch the damn ball
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
VJax played in a few games and still got hurt. No thanks esp. considering the price tag that comes along with it.
While we work out some of our other kinks, let's give Kelly a chance as long as he doesn't get hurt.
I'd like to see Moss in the slot, AA at the 2 and maybe Kelly in the 1 when he's on the field. I would imagine it will be Moss #1, AA #2 most of the time.
frankcal20 wrote:VJax played in a few games and still got hurt. No thanks esp. considering the price tag that comes along with it.
While we work out some of our other kinks, let's give Kelly a chance as long as he doesn't get hurt.
I'd like to see Moss in the slot, AA at the 2 and maybe Kelly in the 1 when he's on the field. I would imagine it will be Moss #1, AA #2 most of the time.
I think you're right Frank, given whom we have now but we would be a lot more effective with Moss in the slot as long as they can get someone that will be an effective outside WR
I just don't see these guys "buying" players - yes, they will have to pay out a lot of money but I'm hoping they look more for the player that fits what they want to get done here than the "stars" like dumb and dumber used to do here because they had no clue
I just don't see them going after a guy that will cost as much as Jackson - we don't need that
we have many issues and we need to start by adding a lot of really young guys that are really motivated to be better and to make the other players around them better - I'm sure there will be some "older" free agents added to help out but hopefully this franchise gets a lot "younger" on average in the next 9 months
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
The one name I keep reading about the coaches being high on is Sidney Rice. He intrigues me a bit but he is coming off that hip injury. I also have a feeling that he's going to demand a high salary too though.
The one name I keep reading about the coaches being high on is Sidney Rice. He intrigues me a bit but he is coming off that hip injury. I also have a feeling that he's going to demand a high salary too though.
I believe Santana Moss will be back as the slot. AA will be the # 2. Kelly will be 4th receiver and the end zone specialist with his height and hands, but I agree he is not likely to make the team unless he plays special teams and learns how to get separation. The #1 will be the "Diamond in the Rough" (like Rod Smith) find either in the late rounds or a undrafted free agent from a small school who is overlooked because he is at a small school.
I like VJax, but he cost too much and we all know what happens when one overpays a WR.
TO is too much drama, but it wouldn't hurt to bring him in and take a look just before training camp, because he won't cost much and can be cut if he does start something bad. One thing about TO nobody can deny is he gives 100% on the field. AND if by some chance DM remains on the team as QB - NO TO! They cannot co-exist.
R. Moss - No WAY! - He is not a work ethic guy!
Sidney Rice? I like, but I doubt if the Vikes let him get away.
Braylon Edwards? No WAY! Off the field troubles - drops too many passes.
Santonio Holmes? Would love him, but no way the Jets don't sign him.
I expect a lot of the guys on that list to be brought in during the free agent period and be given a look
Shanahan's MO is finding a guy with a strong work ethic and one that he can coach. Doubt that there will be a big splash signing at WR.
2011 I still think it's Moss. Though it's getting late in his run as our #1. I hope he stays around awhile though, I think he can contribute several more years and I love him as a Skin and want him to retire here.
Hail to the Redskins!
Groucho: Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him
Twain: A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
Kilmer72 wrote:It will be Santana Moss again. I would love to see Kelly be the man but I have finally lost hope in him. AA could be a really good number 2. I think he just got on a roll and you can count on him next year.
What a shame about Kelly. They say he has great hands and could be our possession receiver. He most likely will be cut and gotten rid of.
If he was going to be cut, they would have cut him this past season. Placing him on the IR shows they still think he has some talent.
Kilmer72 wrote:It will be Santana Moss again. I would love to see Kelly be the man but I have finally lost hope in him. AA could be a really good number 2. I think he just got on a roll and you can count on him next year.
What a shame about Kelly. They say he has great hands and could be our possession receiver. He most likely will be cut and gotten rid of.
If he was going to be cut, they would have cut him this past season. Placing him on the IR shows they still think he has some talent.
Sorry, you have it backwards. If they thought he had talent they would not have IR'd him when they did. It does mean there's a sliver of hope, but that they IR'd him in pre-season means they do not expect him to be on this year's roster, it does not mean they do.
Hail to the Redskins!
Groucho: Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him
Twain: A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
frankcal20 wrote:VJax played in a few games and still got hurt. No thanks esp. considering the price tag that comes along with it.
While we work out some of our other kinks, let's give Kelly a chance as long as he doesn't get hurt.
I'd like to see Moss in the slot, AA at the 2 and maybe Kelly in the 1 when he's on the field. I would imagine it will be Moss #1, AA #2 most of the time.
So you would like to pass up Vincent Jackson, who has been hurt like once, to give Malcolm Kelly a chance, who is hurt every game?
brad - i don't think it's as simple as that - we are not just a few players away from being a consistently competitive franchise again - I think we'll likely be a lot better this season but i think we've got to keep in mind that we need to look further down the road - the cost of bringing in players versus the rebuilding we are going to go through would call for a more cautious approach
we made some mistakes since these guys came in and there are always risks involved but I just don't think they are looking for a bunch of 'stars' here - I think they want to try and get a lot younger and have the players begin to start playing together - look at the progress AA has made already
It is going to take a couple of years to have a good offensive line again - we don't need to try and bring in great offensive players - a lot of the guys that will become really good here are most likely not going to be well known until they start to gel with the other players here in the next few years
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
I would just like them for once to go out and get a decent receiver. That's all i'm saying. Receivers are kind of important in today's game. I'd also like them to actually make an effort to get a decent kicker as well.
we can all point to a lot of positions that need upgrading - that is why we are in the situation we're in
it's true that we really need a big, possession type WR but that is 1 of about 6 (out of 11 on offense alone) that we could use an upgrade - let alone the defensive side
IMO, we do not need to pay for 1 great player when we can get a lot of good young players, that, in a short amount of time will form a really good TEAM
this FO do know what they're doing and, despite their mistakes, I'm sure that we'll continue to get better and soon
we just went from 4 wins to 6 - maybe 9 or 10 wins is possible this year
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
frankcal20 wrote:VJax played in a few games and still got hurt. No thanks esp. considering the price tag that comes along with it.
While we work out some of our other kinks, let's give Kelly a chance as long as he doesn't get hurt.
I'd like to see Moss in the slot, AA at the 2 and maybe Kelly in the 1 when he's on the field. I would imagine it will be Moss #1, AA #2 most of the time.
VJax got hurt playing in a couple games, sure your right.. and he's a HUGE help @ WR. You followed that up with "let's give Kelly a chance as long as he doesn't get hurt".. so Frank my boy you ALREADY know that Kelly gets hurt all the time. No thanks, I'll take VJax over Kelly anyday.
So if the CBA get's approved, the salary cap get's extended, etc - are you comfortable with giving a WR 16+ million a year? That's the numbers he was hoping for last year. Does that really make sense once again given our track record in the past. I just don't think it makes sense given all the holes we need to fill in sooooo many area's.
markshark84 wrote:Why don't we try something CRAZY and find a WR via the draft..... This teams total ineptness at drafting players is disgusting.
We did bro, Davis/Kelly/Thomas, that didn't work out so well. (Not saying we'd fail again because at least now we have competence with our GM and HC)
Frank but don't you think that for the first time that's an investment worth making as opposed to the garbage ones in the past? I TOTALLY understand what your saying but in his case I say we should pay the guy something nice.. I mean, we NEED a WR like him and actually you know more about the draft prospects than I do but there isn't alot out there this year right?
Mark - I agree with you for once 100%. I look at this years draft and look at guy's like Jarvis Williams from NC State. 6'4 - 220 lbs, this year had 52 catches for 713 yds. That's 13.7 ypc average!!!!! He only had 5 TD's only b/c NC State used the play action pass in the redzone that they threw a lot to the TE and RB's.
This is just one guy who you can find in the middle round possibly.
frankcal20 wrote:Mark - I agree with you for once 100%. I look at this years draft and look at guy's like Jarvis Williams from NC State. 6'4 - 220 lbs, this year had 52 catches for 713 yds. That's 13.7 ypc average!!!!! He only had 5 TD's only b/c NC State used the play action pass in the redzone that they threw a lot to the TE and RB's.
This is just one guy who you can find in the middle round possibly.
..putting aside your love for the wolfpack I'll agree with you Frank, that boy Williams is badazz!!
