Skin/Pukes postgame

[Hoss]

Please poat all post game comments here.

Remember this is a PG forum and no personal attacks.

[TCIYM]

Rex could have done a lot worse for himself but a loss is a loss is a loss ...

[Bdot]

It's not Shanahan & Son's fault. It's the franchise. It's not Rexie or McFlabb's fault. It's the franchise. No matter how hard the skins play for 55 minutes, it's those 5 minutes of game time totally dedicated to embarrassing this joke of a fanbase that makes all the difference. It's a shame that a guy honorable enough to be a Cowboy like London Fletcher, has to waste his career on this joke of a franchise. Thanks for the feel-good today, washington, and Merry Christmas!

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

At this point I'm not bothered with another L.. Just hate to give that team the W and have their cacaroach fans get the delusions that the team doesn't suck. Sexy rexy ALMOST pulled off the comeback upset. Props

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

What's your excuse then? From hometown SB favs to this joke of a season? Old kitna out shining homo? Ha ha get real. You can't buy a superbowl even w the great talent you got. Franchise? Bwaaaa laughing stock of NFL and LOSER fan base

[Redskins_Fanatic]

You know, I think this game worked out PERFECTLY!!!!!

Grossman proved that we have a reasonably quality BACKUP QB already on the roster.

Kyle Shanahan proved that the plays in the playbook CAN work when run properly.

Donavan "Done" McEagle proved that he is no longer an NFL Starting QB, talent-wise and got his nose rubbed in his poo by REX GROSSMAN and Mike Shanahan.

The defense also proved that there is some talent there and when they are AGGRESSIVE they can make plays. You can't run a 3-4 scheme like it's a Prevent Defense. It ends up the exact same way. A 3-4 has to be an AGGRESSIVE. BLITZING, ATTACKING defense.

The only group I'm disappointed in today is the Special Teams. That was U-G-L-Y.

To boot we ended up losing, which should help our draft position.

Lots of Win-Win there folks. At least as I see it.

[KazooSkinsFan]

To boot we ended up losing, which should help our draft position.

Lots of Win-Win there folks. At least as I see it.

I'm not sure what language you're speaking and I don't think I want to understand it because in English a loss to Dallas is never a win

[Redskins_Fanatic]

I'm not sure what language you're speaking and I don't think I want to understand it because in English a loss to Dallas is never a win

Sorry but I'm not of the "We can go 2-14 so long as we beat the Cowboys twice" mentality, and never have been. They aren't even my most hated opponent. That is reserved for one of next season's opponents, the New England Patriots.

I'm not generally one to see too much positive in a loss, but I think there was quite a bit of it today. I mentioned most of them in my previous post. If a loss in a meaningless game (for both teams) to Dallas helps us improve our draft position AND allows us to get a better idea on who should and shouldn't be here next year, then I'm all for it.

[Kilmer72]

Personally, I think Rex did ok or a little better than ok. He made some terrible plays in the first half but showed why the Shans decided to go with someone else. Here is a guy that didn't get the reps that a starter would and brought us from behind and made a game of it. Got to give him the kudos... He also did some boneheaded plays but it was what it was. I understand now why the coaches said (hey the season is over lets show people that the plays are there.)

#5 sucks as far as following what the coaches want. The Eagles fans told me this and believe or not they all loved #5 as a person but hated him for his play and people want to say he is a Hall of Fame guy.....Think about how smart he really is compared to a mediocre Rex.

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

1) It's good to be competitive again against NFC East foes.

2) Turns out Kyle and Shanny DO know what works and what doesn't in their offense, and they are NOT racist nepotists (is that a word?), when they tell us #5 is incapable of running their O.

3) Sexy Rexy played head and shoulders above McNabb (in 2010) with the same "sorry" weapons McNabb has on "his" squad.

4) Can't NO COWPIE fan tell us the rivalry doesn't mean anything to 'em. Did you all see the ENTIRE Cowboys organization, from Jerrah on down, AND THEIR FANS, explode when the game ended?? Hail Skins!!

[KazooSkinsFan]

Sorry but I'm not of the "We can go 2-14 so long as we beat the Cowboys twice" mentality, and never have been. They aren't even my most hated opponent. That is reserved for one of next season's opponents, the New England Patriots

No need to apologize, I don't care. It's just that 95% of Redskin fans wouldn't agree with you on that. But why the hate for the Patriots? I thought your wife was a Pats fan. Is she the former wife now?

[Redskins_Fanatic]

No need to apologize, I don't care. It's just that 95% of Redskin fans wouldn't agree with you on that. But why the hate for the Patriots? I thought your wife was a Pats fan. Is she the former wife now?

That's fine. We all have our own ways of looking at things.

I feel the Patriots are the Poster Children for everything I believe is wrong with the NFL, post-1994. I actively root for their players to be injured and bad things to happen to that team.

I'm not married and never have been. I could never DATE, nevermind marry a Patriots OR Cowboys fan.

[KazooSkinsFan]

No need to apologize, I don't care. It's just that 95% of Redskin fans wouldn't agree with you on that. But why the hate for the Patriots? I thought your wife was a Pats fan. Is she the former wife now?

That's fine. We all have our own ways of looking at things.

I feel the Patriots are the Poster Children for everything I believe is wrong with the NFL, post-1994. I actively root for their players to be injured and bad things to happen to that team.

I'm not married and never have been. I could never DATE, nevermind marry a Patriots OR Cowboys fan.

I'm working on a four pack of Guiness Draft myself. Guiness - breakfast, lunch and dinner of Champions.

And my wife is a stinking Patriots fan so I know how you feel.

That's OK, I found the post. My bad, you didn't like them then either.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

A loss to dallas is always the worst. Period.

On that note its a marvel to see redskins_fanatic w some positive energy after a tough loss. Good points as well.
HAIL to next year

[frankcal20]

i'm cool with it. Liked the play of the young guys and some of the specialist. Moss is his usual self. Sure handed and then a drop. ey is ey, AA went off IMO, Reed was having a good game until injury, Barnes had some good hits and the list goes on.

On a side note, interesting fact that we have players with consecutive initials.
A. Armstong (AA)
B. Banks (BB)
C. ey (CC)
D. Dockery (DD)
...... who knows next year

[Redskins_Fanatic]

A loss to dallas is always the worst. Period.

It stinks, but there are worse things in life. Like having to walk into work tomorrow and try to explain to the Patriots fans who will be gloating like nobody's business why this was actually a good result for the Redskins.

On that note its a marvel to see redskins_fanatic w some positive energy after a tough loss. Good points as well. HAIL to next year

Thank you. I'm not ALWAYS negative. I think there were a lot of good points to take out of today's game, and we still improved our draft position at the same time. It definitely sheds some light on a lot of things, and it doesn't hurt that it backs up my intense dislike of McEagle either.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

GG

[Kilmer72]

No one has anything good to say about Rex vs Mcnabb? Come on guys...I know Rex isn't our future but there was or still is many that think Mcnabb is GODLIKE>everyone else.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Four tds vs mcribbs season Higg two.. Higher completion rate. Less time at the helm = F Dmac

[skinpride1]

Rex had a good game but I still think there are better options out there.

I admit that I was suprised he played that good but it's just one game.(4td's is good but boys defense sucks.)

He still threw some picks and doesn't have the big arm like Mcnabb but has better accuracy with short and med routes than #5.

Don't know it is what it is.

[Countertrey]

I'm not sure what language you're speaking and I don't think I want to understand it because in English a loss to Dallas is never a win

Sorry but I'm not of the "We can go 2-14 so long as we beat the Cowboys twice" mentality, and never have been. They aren't even my most hated opponent. That is reserved for one of next season's opponents, the New England Patriots.

Which only goes to demonstrate that you don't understand the essence of what being a Redskins fan means.

I feel sorry for you.

[Redskins_Fanatic]

Which only goes to demonstrate that you don't understand the essence of what being a Redskins fan means.

I feel sorry for you.

Don't feel sorry for me. I have much greater expectations for this team than simply beating one division opponent. Expectations that come with a nice big TROPHY at the beginning of February. I'll take 17-2 and another Lombardi Trophy and two losses to Dallas over 2-14 while beating the Cowscum twice EVERY TIME THE OPTION IS OFFERED.

[RayNAustin]

I am surprised, and thought that Rex did a good (not great) job. Let's give him credit for 4 TDs ... but he also had 3 TOs ... the first 2 leading to 14 cowboy points. During the first half of the game, he looked very average to mediocre.

One thing you have to keep in mind is that part of reason we were down 27-7 was an inability to get the offense going, and poor field position due to two Grossman TOs, and bad punting.

The second thing that you need to keep in mind is that the Cowboys defense is very suspect .. having given up 30+ points in 8 of 14 games this year (2 more than the Redskins defense), so, did they get a little soft and complacent with a 20 point lead?

Thirdly, we still lost the time of possession battle, which puts pressure on your defense ... and I don't think that being so imbalanced between the run and pass is the mark of a good scheme ... or play calling.

And fourthly, the pass pro was better today than it has been most of the year (Heyer did not play), but during those times where the pressure was there, Rex didn't fair very well ... 5 sacks, a fumble, 2 picks.

And lastly, it seemed as though the offensive play calling was different this week ... we saw a lot more shorter routs ... slants and screens and so forth, allowing Rex to get the ball out quickly ... was it Rex actually making quicker decisions with the ball, or was it the plays being called that provided him those quicker developing options?

The one thing that made the biggest difference was the Red Zone play ... 4 for 4, and Rex did a very good job and made some nice throws in traffic.

Overall, Rex gets a C+ ... because his 1st 2 TOs led to 14 Dallas points, and the offense's inability to get going in the 1st half led to the 20-7 halftime lead. The final 2 possessions sealed the game for the cowboys ... 17 yards lost on 2 sacks that gave the cowboys good field position for the go ahead score, and the final possession, a pick.

The only Stat that really counts ... another Loss ... and the offense certainly assisted the Cowboys in the first 3 quarters, which tends to get lost in the hoopla of a good 4th Quarter and the overall 4 TD performance, as the Cowboys played soft in the 4th.

[brad7686]

i'm cool with it. Liked the play of the young guys and some of the specialist. Moss is his usual self. Sure handed and then a drop. ey is ey, AA went off IMO, Reed was having a good game until injury, Barnes had some good hits and the list goes on.

On a side note, interesting fact that we have players with consecutive initials.
A. Armstong (AA)
B. Banks (BB)
C. ey (CC)
D. Dockery (DD)
...... who knows next year

We're gonna bring back Ebeneezer Ekuban

[Redskins_Fanatic]

One thing you have to keep in mind is that part of reason we were down 27-7 was an inability to get the offense going, and poor field position due to two Grossman TOs, and bad punting.

Agreed. I think a lot of that was Grossman not having much playing time and Kyle trying to remember that he could loosen the reins on this offense a little bit with McEagle on the bench.

The second thing that you need to keep in mind is that the Cowboys defense is very suspect .. having given up 30+ points in 8 of 14 games this year (2 more than the Redskins defense), so, did they get a little soft and complacent with a 20 point lead?

True. However, the McEagle version of the Redskins offense would not have been able to take advantage of that fact and would probably have settled for 1 TD, 2 FG's and 2 missed FG's in the same situations.

Thirdly, we still lost the time of possession battle, which puts pressure on your defense ... and I don't think that being so imbalanced between the run and pass is the mark of a good scheme ... or play calling.

I think a lot of that was in the first half while we were trying to get the offense on track. In the second half the numbers I saw were a lot more even in terms of T.O.P.

And fourthly, the pass pro was better today than it has been most of the year (Heyer did not play), but during those times where the pressure was there, Rex didn't fair very well ... 5 sacks, a fumble, 2 picks.

I don't think anyone is saying Rex should be the starter. I know I'm not. However, he has shown us that the offense CAN work, and that he CAN be a quality backup for this team in the next couple of years.

And lastly, it seemed as though the offensive play calling was different this week ... we saw a lot more shorter routs ... slants and screens and so forth, allowing Rex to get the ball out quickly ... was it Rex actually making quicker decisions with the ball, or was it the plays being called that provided him those quicker developing options?

That's what happens when you have a QB in there who understands what the OC is trying to do and is actually willing to do it. I don't doubt that we'll eventually find out that McEagle was changing a lot of plays at the LOS because he didn't like what the OC called.

The one thing that made the biggest difference was the Red Zone play ... 4 for 4, and Rex did a very good job and made some nice throws in traffic.

Yes he did and he deserves a lot of credit for that.

Overall, Rex gets a C+ ... because his 1st 2 TOs led to 14 Dallas points, and the offense's inability to get going in the 1st half led to the 20-7 halftime lead. The final 2 possessions sealed the game for the cowboys ... 17 yards lost on 2 sacks that gave the cowboys good field position for the go ahead score, and the final possession, a pick.

I would agree on the grade. I'll be interested to see what he looks like next week against Jacksonville now that the rust has been knocked off of him.