VJax

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:07 pm

It's time to pay attention to WR, we have a severe lack of explosiveness on our team and lack of size in our receiving corps, its time for VJax next year.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:16 pm

brad7686 wrote:It's time to pay attention to WR, we have a severe lack of explosiveness on our team and lack of size in our receiving corps, its time for VJax next year.

MDSKINSFAN · Post by **MDSKINSFAN** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:45 pm

I didn't start him in one of my fantasy leagues this week! NOOOO!

Yeah but I agree I want VJax.

TCIYM · Post by **TCIYM** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:06 pm

Let's overstate the obvious: We have no draft picks and an owner who likes wasting money. V-Jax, welcome to Washington.

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:08 pm

MDSKINSFAN wrote:I didn't start him in one of my fantasy leagues this week! NOOOO!

Yeah but I agree I want VJax.

I started him last second when Floyd was injured...got some money comin my way now

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:23 am

TCIYM wrote:Let's overstate the obvious: We have no draft picks and an owner who likes wasting money. V-Jax, welcome to Washington.

Only thing, V-Jax isn't a waste of money but if there's an organization who can make a player a bum, its ours.

TCIYM · Post by **TCIYM** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:52 pm

langleyparkjoe wrote:Only thing, V-Jax isn't a waste of money but if there's an organization who can make a player a bum, its ours.

And just think, if San Diego franchises V-Jax we can piss away another two draft picks, something we seem to feel brings us closer to God or something.

If it's me I probably give up two picks for a proven #1. We haven't had one in forever. But if I had to guess V-Jax doesn't fit Shanahan's system because he runs routes correctly and draws double coverage.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:24 pm

langleyparkjoe wrote:
TCIYM wrote:Let's overstate the obvious: We have no draft picks and an owner who likes wasting money. V-Jax, welcome to Washington.
Only thing, V-Jax isn't a waste of money but if there's an organization who can make a player a bum, its ours.

Depends on your definition of "bum"... personally, I think he's a bum right now...

but still a pretty darned good ball player...

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:26 pm

TCIYM wrote:
langleyparkjoe wrote:Only thing, V-Jax isn't a waste of money but if there's an organization who can make a player a bum, its ours.
And just think, if San Diego franchises V-Jax we can piss away another two draft picks, something we seem to feel brings us closer to God or something. If it's me I probably give up two picks for a proven #1. We haven't had one in forever. But if I had to guess V-Jax doesn't fit Shanahan's system because he runs routes correctly and draws double coverage.

If he's franchised, I suspect he will come off the wish list...

... oh, wait... this is the redskins... what was I thinking?

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:59 pm

LOL@ TC and Trey

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:12 am

I want VJAX so we can put Santana in the slot .. its the offseason now, why don't we have VJAX yet? .. come oooooooon.. hurrry uuuuuuup

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:19 am

I hear you LPJ - I totally agree that Moss will be even more effective for this franchise as a slot (or #2) WR

I'm not sure we'll get Jackson but I will be very surprised if we don't have a true #1 WR here soon

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:33 pm

*bump* Cause I want VJAX here

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:47 pm

langleyparkjoe wrote:*bump* Cause I want VJAX here

...'cause... you know... bumping the thread always increases your chances...

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:12 pm

Countertrey wrote:
langleyparkjoe wrote:*bump* Cause I want VJAX here
...'cause... you know... bumping the thread always increases your chances...

VJAX called me and said thanks for the support. He wouldn't have seen it if I didn't bump it!!!!!

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:49 pm

That's funny, 'cause VJax told me that he had no idea who you were.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:48 pm

Countertrey wrote:That's funny, 'cause VJax told me that he had no idea who you were.

jerk!!!

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:52 am

SkinsJock wrote:I hear you LPJ - I totally agree that Moss will be even more effective for this franchise as a slot (or #2) WR

I'm not sure we'll get Jackson but I will be very surprised if we don't have a true #1 WR here soon

Brandon Marshall seem not a good fit in Maimi. Can we trade for him? Does Shanny have a connection with Marshall....?

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:43 pm

I hope that Moss finishes out his career here as he's still a good WR and he's still got something to give IMO - I just hope we can move him around a bit and that they find some guys that will make it possible for him to play at different positions and not be constantly doubled

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:24 am

tribeofjudah wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:I hear you LPJ - I totally agree that Moss will be even more effective for this franchise as a slot (or #2) WR

I'm not sure we'll get Jackson but I will be very surprised if we don't have a true #1 WR here soon
Brandon Marshall seem not a good fit in Maimi. Can we trade for him? Does Shanny have a connection with Marshall....?

Marshall's a great talented WR but do you honestly think Shanahan wants a guy who kicked the ball in practice and deliberately dropped passes thrown to him in practice? Shanahan, our guy who said "you guys don't know what I see in practice"..

I don't even want Marshall here, it's VJax for me 100% !!!!

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:16 pm

tribeofjudah wrote: Does Shanny have a connection with Marshall....?

RU serious?

He drafted Marshall and made him a star when they both were in Denver!

fredp45 · Post by **fredp45** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:57 pm

Both Vincent Jackson and Brandon Marshall are knuckleheads.

Ever notice how WRs are the biggest egomaniacs and knuckleheads in the NFL? Why is that?

I'd trade a 2nd rounder for Marshall, I wouldn't go for Jackson -- he's only one slip up from being suspended for one year.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:48 pm

fredp45 wrote:Both Vincent Jackson and Brandon Marshall are knuckleheads.

Ever notice how WRs are the biggest egomaniacs and knuckleheads in the NFL? Why is that?

I'd trade a 2nd rounder for Marshall, I wouldn't go for Jackson -- he's only one slip up from being suspended for one year.

First I wouldn't even think about giving up a second rounder for a wr! We have way too many needs to over pay for a wr.

The JETS only have up a second for S. Holmes and he is a better receiver than Jackson!

Jackson isn't even on Marshall's area code in terms of productivity!

The most I would consider giving up for Jackson is Haynesworth, if the Chargers were willing to toss in a 5th or 6th too.

Lets compare Jackson and AH.
Both have run out of favor with their teams!
Both are boom/bust type players.
However
When he is on his game AH is am elite defensive player.
VJ is not an elite wr.
Elite DT's have more of an impact on a game than elite wrs.

If you look at it from that stand point SD would need to chip in some extra to make the trade fair

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:46 pm

Lets compare Jackson and AH.
Both have run out of favor with their teams!

Incorrect. The Chargers want Jackson back.

Both are boom/bust type players.

How so? Jackson improved each of his first five seasons and posted back-to-back 1000 yard seasons in 2008 and 2009.

When he is on his game AH is am elite defensive player.
VJ is not an elite wr.

I guess it depends on your definition of elite. Is he on the level of Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald? No. Is he a top 10-15 wr? Absolutely.[/quote]

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:04 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
The most I would consider giving up for Jackson is Haynesworth, if the Chargers were willing to toss in a 5th or 6th too.

Lets compare Jackson and AH.
Both have run out of favor with their teams!
Both are boom/bust type players.
However
When he is on his game AH is am elite defensive player.
VJ is not an elite wr.
Elite DT's have more of an impact on a game than elite wrs.

If you look at it from that stand point SD would need to chip in some extra to make the trade fair

Good comparison; however, the Chargers run a 3-4 and the new DC, Greg Manusky, former Redskin, called the plays for the same 3-4 scheme for the Niners. No way the Chagers even think about trading for AH. Also, by now, every GM knows that the only way to maximize AH is to build the D around him - there are not many coaches willing to do that. That only leaves Detroit (former AH DC), Tenn (former AH HC), and Philly (former DL coach and HANDLER) as potential trading partners. Possibly a few teams with a 4-3 might trade for him during pre-season if a D lineman goes down. We have very little trade value for the the Chargers. It is time to stop giving up draft choices. Carter is only good for a 4-3 team. McIntosh and Rogers are free agents (supplemental picks coming)- no trade value unless - sign and trade. Look for Shanny to try to pull his magic and find a Marshall or Rod Smith from a small school.

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