McDaniels done in Denver

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:17 pm

It was about time. Spygate, poor people skills (with players and coaches) and his aggressive nature with trades... none of that added up to a long term relationship. Bad news for Timmy Tebow here, the one guy in the league who really thought he could start at QB is no longer his coach.

MDSKINSFAN · Post by **MDSKINSFAN** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:56 pm

Not only was he a terrible coach, he drove almost all of the offensive talent they were building on out of there right away with Marshall and Cutler. He has set that franchise back. He kind of reminds me of Zorn; got out to a fast start and then just stunk. Trading picks to get Tebow and drafting him in the first place was a horrible move.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:13 pm

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/12/06/mcdaniels.broncos.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:55 am

Wow. Three coaches fired mid-season. I don't remember there ever being a year like this.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:58 am

MDSKINSFAN wrote:Not only was he a terrible coach, he drove almost all of the offensive talent they were building on out of there right away with Marshall and Cutler. He has set that franchise back. He kind of reminds me of Zorn; got out to a fast start and then just stunk. Trading picks to get Tebow and drafting him in the first place was a horrible move.

Exactly, not only was Timmy a reach, but he gave up a lot to get him... picks that could have been used to build the team.

Also, here's a quick list of guys he gave up... some for pennies on the dollar, or nothing:

QB Jay Cutler, young pro-bowl player, struggled last season in a new offense but now leading the Bears to a winning season.

RB Peyton Hillis, powerful runner. Already has 11 TD's, and as a little bit of trivia he's also on his way to being the first caucasian rusher to top 1,000 yards since Craig James 1985.

WR Brandon Marshall, elite wide receiver, struggling with new team but has three straight 1,000 yard seasons and will possibly hit 1,000 this season too.

C Casey Weigmann, Denver is having a terrible time running the ball, and Weigmann is dominating in KC.

Pretty much a whole offense there... and he gave up a bunch of picks in the 2011 draft. He sure made a mess of things.

UK Skins Fan · Post by **UK Skins Fan** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:01 am

McDaniels was lucky to make it this far - he seemed to be an all-singing, all dancing, 24 carat loon. He made some appalling decisions, and seemed to think that he was the second coming of Bill Belichick. He isn't - he's closer to the second coming of Bill Cosby.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:11 am

UK Skins Fan wrote:McDaniels was lucky to make it this far - he seemed to be an all-singing, all dancing, 24 carat loon. He made some appalling decisions, and seemed to think that he was the second coming of Bill Belichick. He isn't - he's closer to the second coming of Bill Cosby.

Exactly, he brought in Belichick's "My way or the highway" attitude... which only works if you have something to back it up. He didn't realize how badly he needed Cutler, Marshall, Hillis, Weigmann, etc. He just laid out an ultimatum and if they didn't like it, they were gone. Imagine an offense... even with Orton leading it that had Moreno, Hillis, Lloyd and Marshall. They would dominate... but McD gave them away.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:27 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:QB Jay Cutler, young pro-bowl player, struggled last season in a new offense but now leading the Bears to a winning season.

To be fair, the Broncos got a lot in return for Cutler.

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:31 pm

What you think we can get for Shanahan?

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:53 pm

VetSkinsFan wrote:What you think we can get for Shanahan?

Think the Broncos might go for a Shanahan/Haynesworth package deal?

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:06 pm

Deadskins wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:What you think we can get for Shanahan?

Think the Broncos might go for a Shanahan/Haynesworth package deal?

Only if we can throw in Haslett for a dealmaker!

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:04 pm

VetSkinsFan wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:What you think we can get for Shanahan?

Think the Broncos might go for a Shanahan/Haynesworth package deal?

Only if we can throw in Haslett for a dealmaker!

Throw in Kelly and there's no way they can turn it down

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:21 pm

What can you say... all those years with Bellichick (like him or not, the man is a coaching virtuoso... nobody can do more with a team than him), and all McDaniels seemed to take from it was "Be Arrogant, and you will win superbowls...

Well... it appears that there was more to it than just being an arrogant punk...

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:03 pm

Countertrey wrote:What can you say... all those years with Bellichick (like him or not, the man is a coaching virtuoso... nobody can do more with a team than him), and all McDaniels seemed to take from it was "Be Arrogant, and you will win superbowls...

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:37 pm

man oh man - it would be fun to have Shanahan go and make another franchise successful like Bill did when he left Cleveland and ended up in NE and the stupid/doubting Cleveland fans thought he was a hopeless case :lol:

fortunately for me he's going to stay here and get this franchise back in gear - I'm looking forward to reminding a lot of guys here about their lack of confidence in our FO and Mike Shanahan in particular

Denver made a mistake with this guy - he just is not ready to be a good HC and might never be