What's up with Portis taking a QB slide?

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:31 pm

You can argue that Portis lost his footing if you want, but I watched it several times and it looked like what QB's and sometimes Moss do quite often, just go down before you get hit. So here's Portis, our highly paid RB off on a much needed breakaway run and as a couple DB's converge on him, he just falls down like a wuss who doesn't want to scuff up his uniform? Really?

I think this is why we didn't see him for most of the rest of the game. I bet Shanahan saw that weak effort and called Bobby Turner over and said, "bench him".

Is this a defining moment for Portis, where he will set out to prove everyone wrong? Or is the beginning of the end of Portis as a starting RB in the NFL?

Either way is scary for us Skins fans because if you start Portis, will you get many decent performances from him? If you don't start Portis, do we have anyone on the roster who is capable of being a viable threat to opposing defenses?

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:54 pm

he's a bum. Looks like he's scared of fumbling or getting a concussion.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:58 pm

He was going to get sandwiched between 3 players. Just sayin...

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:03 pm

Looked like he tried to cut and his feet came out from under him. People were slipping all day yesterday. Not that Portis has great balance.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:17 pm

Shanahan said during his press conference that CP went down bc he was having trouble with his wrist and was worried that he would fumble if he got hit. He also said that he played Torain more on 1st and 2nd downs in the second half bc of CP's wrist issue.

MDSKINSFAN · Post by **MDSKINSFAN** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:17 pm

I think he is still afraid to get hit by a few guys at once since his concussion even though it doesn't seem like he shy's away from contact when blocking. I don't really care though, he probably only would've got a few more yards from putting his head down anyway.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:24 pm

MDSKINSFAN wrote:I think he is still afraid to get hit by a few guys at once since his concussion even though it doesn't seem like he shy's away from contact when blocking. I don't really care though, he probably only would've got a few more yards from putting his head down anyway.

See my post above.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:29 pm

MDSKINSFAN wrote:I think he is still afraid to get hit by a few guys at once since his concussion even though it doesn't seem like he shy's away from contact when blocking. I don't really care though, he probably only would've got a few more yards from putting his head down anyway.

Canes addresses the injured wrist. As to your being afraid of the concussion, have you ever seen him block? Sorry, it's obviously not that.

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:46 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
MDSKINSFAN wrote:I think he is still afraid to get hit by a few guys at once since his concussion even though it doesn't seem like he shy's away from contact when blocking. I don't really care though, he probably only would've got a few more yards from putting his head down anyway.

Canes addresses the injured wrist. As to your being afraid of the concussion, have you ever seen him block? Sorry, it's obviously not that.

If you've ever played football, then you would know that blocking demands much more of your wrist than being tackled. He shied away from contact and I really don't think it would have much to do with his wrist. Shanahan is covering for him because he knows the media will blow it up if he doesn't.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:50 pm

fleetus wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
MDSKINSFAN wrote:I think he is still afraid to get hit by a few guys at once since his concussion even though it doesn't seem like he shy's away from contact when blocking. I don't really care though, he probably only would've got a few more yards from putting his head down anyway.

Canes addresses the injured wrist. As to your being afraid of the concussion, have you ever seen him block? Sorry, it's obviously not that.

If you've ever played football, then you would know that blocking demands much more of your wrist than being tackled. He shied away from contact and I really don't think it would have much to do with his wrist. Shanahan is covering for him because he knows the media will blow it up if he doesn't.

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:59 pm

CanesSkins26 wrote:
fleetus wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
MDSKINSFAN wrote:I think he is still afraid to get hit by a few guys at once since his concussion even though it doesn't seem like he shy's away from contact when blocking. I don't really care though, he probably only would've got a few more yards from putting his head down anyway.

Canes addresses the injured wrist. As to your being afraid of the concussion, have you ever seen him block? Sorry, it's obviously not that.

If you've ever played football, then you would know that blocking demands much more of your wrist than being tackled. He shied away from contact and I really don't think it would have much to do with his wrist. Shanahan is covering for him because he knows the media will blow it up if he doesn't.

Unless his wrist was heavily wrapped. I don't recall seeing it, but maybe I missed it.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:10 pm

fleetus wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
fleetus wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
MDSKINSFAN wrote:I think he is still afraid to get hit by a few guys at once since his concussion even though it doesn't seem like he shy's away from contact when blocking. I don't really care though, he probably only would've got a few more yards from putting his head down anyway.

Canes addresses the injured wrist. As to your being afraid of the concussion, have you ever seen him block? Sorry, it's obviously not that.

If you've ever played football, then you would know that blocking demands much more of your wrist than being tackled. He shied away from contact and I really don't think it would have much to do with his wrist. Shanahan is covering for him because he knows the media will blow it up if he doesn't.

Unless his wrist was heavily wrapped. I don't recall seeing it, but maybe I missed it.

If you've seen CP taking on blitzing linebackers and the like, most of the time he's lowering his shoulder and delivering hits, instead of using his hands to block the way that offensive linemen do. That wouldn't impact his wrist as much as getting hit directly on it by a defensive player trying to strip the ball.

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:27 pm

fleetus wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
MDSKINSFAN wrote:I think he is still afraid to get hit by a few guys at once since his concussion even though it doesn't seem like he shy's away from contact when blocking. I don't really care though, he probably only would've got a few more yards from putting his head down anyway.

Canes addresses the injured wrist. As to your being afraid of the concussion, have you ever seen him block? Sorry, it's obviously not that.

If you've ever played football, then you would know that blocking demands much more of your wrist than being tackled. He shied away from contact and I really don't think it would have much to do with his wrist. Shanahan is covering for him because he knows the media will blow it up if he doesn't.

to clarify, he was afraid that the defense would try to STRIP the ball from him while in the open field, in which his injured wrist would be a burden. as for his blocking, if you have ever watched him on passing downs... he just torpedoes himself shoulder first into defenders. he doesn't block with his wrist like a o-lineman would. portis is no wimp.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:33 pm

fleetus wrote:If you've ever played football, then you would know that blocking demands much more of your wrist than being tackled. He shied away from contact and I really don't think it would have much to do with his wrist. Shanahan is covering for him because he knows the media will blow it up if he doesn't.

If you've ever played football, then you would know that holding onto the ball when your wrist is injured is pretty darned difficult. Did you see them doing the exercises on the sidelines with Portis holding onto the ball? He was obviously concerned about that. I wasn't thinking he was worried about being tackled with the wrist injury, I was thinking he was worried about fumbling. As for blocking, I wasn't talking about the wrist I was talking about the concussion. He throws himself into the blocks. I love the man, he's so committed to winning. Portis has no speed on the field but "high." If he slid, it wasn't to protect himself. I really hope he retires a Skin.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:34 pm

How quickly some of us forget. Here's a video of CP's block on Davis' 62-yard catch last week. Like the above poster said, CP is no wimp and is not afraid of contact...

http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/9/19/1698434/video-clinton-portis-block-redskins-vs-texans-nfl-week-2

aswas71788 · Post by **aswas71788** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:51 pm

Clinton Portis has accompllished many great things in the NFL. I think it is just his time to move on. Unfortunately, no matter how great a player is, age is the ultimate equalizer.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:59 pm

CanesSkins26 wrote:the above poster

That's so touching, I love you too man :cry:

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:01 pm

aswas71788 wrote:Clinton Portis has accompllished many great things in the NFL. I think it is just his time to move on. Unfortunately, no matter how great a player is, age is the ultimate equalizer.

I've been saying I'm worried he's lost a step, but it's time to move on is a bit much at this point. I'm just worried he's moving beyond being our featured back, but I don't think he needs to hang up the cleats yet

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:03 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:the above poster

That's so touching, I love you too man

Haha sorry Kazoo. I think you were posting at the same time as me so when I said "above poster" I was really referring to RedskinjXd, whose screen name I couldn't remember when typing out my post. Hopefully I didn't offend RedskinjXd too

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:06 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
aswas71788 wrote:Clinton Portis has accompllished many great things in the NFL. I think it is just his time to move on. Unfortunately, no matter how great a player is, age is the ultimate equalizer.

I've been saying I'm worried he's lost a step, but it's time to move on is a bit much at this point. I'm just worried he's moving beyond being our featured back, but I don't think he needs to hang up the cleats yet

Agree Kazoo. CP can still be an effective back in the NFL. He isn't going to be Chris Johnson, but it's also not CP's fault that the team hasn't brought in a younger, more explosive back. Looking around the league, there are plenty of examples of running back tandems that feature both a veteran back and a younger back, like in New York with Green and LT, or in KC with Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles.

It's also hard to judge CP with the poor run blocking. Lots of people thought that LT was done after last year too, and he looks great this year.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:10 pm

CanesSkins26 wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:the above poster

That's so touching, I love you too man

Haha sorry Kazoo. I think you were posting at the same time as me so when I said "above poster" I was really referring to RedskinjXd, whose screen name I couldn't remember when typing out my post. Hopefully I didn't offend RedskinjXd too

I can see why you couldn't remember that. We're good, it just sounded so funny. :lol:

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:15 pm

The coaching staff is beginning to look erratic. If Larry Johnson had nothing to offer, why'd it take this long to see it?? If Portis's wrist was an issue, why did he start the game??

Do we really think our scheme doesn't need players?? Torain and Williams both missed key blocks yesterday.

Danny Smith should be fired.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:16 pm

Portis is the best they've got right now - Yes, he might have lost a step and he might not be areally good as he was but he's still got something in the tank AND he's still VERY much a big time blocker - I think he takes great pride in just playing the game

I do not fault him at all for protecting the ball - his gain was all that was important at that time AND he did the right thing in going down and protecting the ball

hopefully we can utilize what he's got left - right now he's a whole lot better than we think PLUS Torrain and Willimas should be able to help with the ground game - they all just need some run blocking

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:00 am

The Hogster wrote:Danny Smith should be fired.

i've never understood why he manages to stick around here year after year. our special teams have been consistently below average, and at times quite poor, for years. i was disappointed to see him still on the new staff.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:36 am

I'm not too worried about CP's deliberate fall. If CP had stayed up and fumbled, how many of the people who are complaining about his dive would right now be saying "All I'm trying to say is that if he just falls to the ground, then he doesn't risk the fumble. Simple!" :lol:

I'd rather have him fall there then try to take on the four guys for a few extra yards with the risk of a fumble. Those five yards are not why we lost the game . . .