Skins 2010 = success

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:10 pm

Obviously, having 4 total picks isn't great for fans, it's downright boring, but look at it from another side. Here's the optimist look on our 2010 draft, so far.

We got our future LT to replace Chris Samuels at #4. Although he is older, you have to agree that McNabb is a better option at QB, and with the 3rd rounder, we have one of the best young DLs in the game.

Matt Terl from the Redskins Blog had an excellent story on Jarmon earlier this week. Jarmon said he'd been projected as a first or second-round pick heading into his senior season at Kentucky, but an over-the-counter weight loss supplement he took cost him his final year. Despite the injury, I don't think the Redskins have a lot of regret over selecting Jarmon. He's hoping to become a versatile player for defensive coordinator Jim Haslett.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast
http://blog.redskins.com/2010/04/21/jeremy-jarmon-is-not-one-for-coulda-beens/

So....here's how our draft has turned out overall.

1st round- Trent Williams
2nd Round- Donovan McNabb
3rd Round- Jeremy Jarmon

So, looking at it like this, I think that we can pick up some quality OL, LBs, or DBs with our 3 late picks. There's always a possibility of a trade as well. I could see Jason Campbell and/or Rocky McIntosh going for a 5th rounder (Buffalo and Oakland still need a QB). So let's all relax and enjoy the weekend. Go Skins!

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:17 pm

I know that he was viewed as a project and he was a combine king, but Bruce Campbell is still out there....is he worth the risk as a 4th rounder??? He was projected to be a top-10 pick a few weeks ago.....crazy!

Other possibilities in 4th round:

Joe McKnight RB USC
Eric Norwood OLB S. Carolina
Perry Riley OLB LSU
Tony Pike QB CINN
Jonathan Dwyer RB GA Tech
LaGarrette Blount RB Oregon
Selvish Capers OT W. VA

There's still A LOT of talent in the draft....I wouldn't mind seeing another OL taken, but Joe McKnight could really add some speed to our RB core.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:26 pm

LaGarrette Blount ought to be in jail IMO.

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:26 pm

There hasn't been a huge run on tackles yet. I would bet they go there. Could go Rb/S also.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:28 pm

I like the idea of Norwood. That guy kicked everyone's butt in the SEC. I don't care about track times. I want football players and he's one of them.

Jeremy81 · Post by **Jeremy81** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:30 pm

bruce campbell would be my choice...eric norwood or cam thomas is a good pick as well.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:44 pm

Where would Bruce Campbell play? He's not really suited for the right side. What about:

DE Ricky Sapp- Could be a good 3-4 OLB... and boy do we need linebackers.

LB Eric Norwood- He's fallen a bit, but could develop into an ILB.

DT Cam Thomas- Big NT type.

WR Mike Williams- Is a HUGE talent but has dropped a lot due to character concerns. Shanny is supposedly worried about the WR situation... but what better situation for a bad attitude guy than to have a Syracuse alum at QB and Mike Shannahan as the coach?

RB Jonathan Dwyer- Big powerful one cut back... kind of guy Shanny can make into a 1,000 yard rusher.

Mike Williams would be my #1 pick here.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:58 pm

We're doing fine - nobody really expects too much and we're trying to get this train back on track - we were a 4 - 12 franchise and I think we're good for 8-8 this season so we are on the way back - we just need to replace EVERYONE that was on the O line last year and we'll be fine

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:58 pm

I would be surprised if it isn't Cam Thomas, Eric Norwood, Bruce Campbell, or Tony Washington. Unless its a safety. That's a traditional skins trump card. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised by anything, its the 4th round. Could be Cody Glenn or Dallas Sartz for all I know.

Jeremy81 · Post by **Jeremy81** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:36 pm

why isn't campbell suited for the right side? he's athletic enough to play either side and is a great fit for a ZBS. he was definately not worthy of a first or second round pick, but to get him in the fourth would be a steal. move artis hicks in at guard.

however, i do like eric norwood and cam thomas as well

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:40 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAo3MsI2AMw

Let's be Selvish

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:46 am

I would take Selvish Capers to play RT. Or Joe McKnight to start as a return specialist and become our change up back in the next year or two.

I think Capers could start right away, and I'm surprised he has fallen this far. I also think that Bruce Campbell could work out at Right Tackle given our commitment to the zone blocking system. He might not start right away though.

Manchester_Redskin · Post by **Manchester_Redskin** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:46 am

I agree this off season has been a success.

Assuming we get 4-5 years from Mcnabb, that gives us at least 2 years before we need to worry about drafting a QB, we can use the next 2-3 years drafts to strengthen our OL and other areas such as WR and RB.

By the time we draft a QB we should be in good shape, allowing them to start in the first year if necessary.

2010 is the start of the rebuilding process.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:20 am

Well, I wonder if Capers or Campbell wouldn't be too much for Shannahan to pass up on. Kyle Shannahan wants tackles who can MOVE and you can certainly say that about Trent Williams and Bruce Campbell. If Campbell falls for 4 more picks, it will be interesting to see what happens. Obviously we have other needs, but there's no more safeties on the board you would consider here...

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:51 am

spudstr04 wrote:I know that he was viewed as a project and he was a combine king, but Bruce Campbell is still out there....is he worth the risk as a 4th rounder??? He was projected to be a top-10 pick a few weeks ago.....crazy!

Other possibilities in 4th round:

Joe McKnight RB USC
Eric Norwood OLB S. Carolina
Perry Riley OLB LSU
Tony Pike QB CINN
Jonathan Dwyer RB GA Tech
LaGarrette Blount RB Oregon
Selvish Capers OT W. VA

There's still A LOT of talent in the draft....I wouldn't mind seeing another OL taken, but Joe McKnight could really add some speed to our RB core.

Good call, dude.

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:53 pm

Deadskins wrote:
spudstr04 wrote:I know that he was viewed as a project and he was a combine king, but Bruce Campbell is still out there....is he worth the risk as a 4th rounder??? He was projected to be a top-10 pick a few weeks ago.....crazy!

Other possibilities in 4th round:

Joe McKnight RB USC
Eric Norwood OLB S. Carolina
Perry Riley OLB LSU
Tony Pike QB CINN
Jonathan Dwyer RB GA Tech
LaGarrette Blount RB Oregon
Selvish Capers OT W. VA

There's still A LOT of talent in the draft....I wouldn't mind seeing another OL taken, but Joe McKnight could really add some speed to our RB core.

Good call, dude.

I got Selvish right too, just got him in the 7th round. I was really impressed by our draft. We got a lot of talent in positions we need. Shanny and Allen did a good job with the late picks and the trading back for more was obviously smart.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:33 pm

This was a very deep draft, so moving back to get more was an excellent call...

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Thu May 06, 2010 10:17 am

Countertrey wrote:This was a very deep draft, so moving back to get more was an excellent call...

Amen.

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Thu May 06, 2010 3:25 pm

Countertrey wrote:This was a very deep draft, so moving back to get more was an excellent call...

In the 7th round it means very little, as most of those players would be available after the draft.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Thu May 06, 2010 3:32 pm

The logic defies me... as all players selected in the 7th round are, in fact, NOT availible to any except the team that selected them... Explain, then, how they would have been availible "after" the draft?

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Thu May 06, 2010 9:16 pm

Countertrey wrote:The logic defies me... as all players selected in the 7th round are, in fact, NOT availible to any except the team that selected them... Explain, then, how they would have been availible "after" the draft?

I mean that had we not drafted them, they probably would have gone undrafted.

Take Capers for example. he had been passed on 230 times before we picked him. Had we not, he would probably have been passed on 24 more times.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri May 07, 2010 9:35 am

yupchagee wrote:
Countertrey wrote:The logic defies me... as all players selected in the 7th round are, in fact, NOT availible to any except the team that selected them... Explain, then, how they would have been availible "after" the draft?

I mean that had we not drafted them, they probably would have gone undrafted.

Take Capers for example. he had been passed on 230 times before we picked him. Had we not, he would probably have been passed on 24 more times.

You have to also look at it as there's 24 more x's he COULD'VE been picked up too.. kinda like glass half empty/full thing.. I think that's what CT means?

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Fri May 07, 2010 10:22 am

Actually, what I meant was, I suspect that at the time they picked, these guys were the best available that met a need... Look, you have the picks... you use them on a player that you want. At this point in the draft, you are looking for leakers, and sleepers. The same "logic" could be applied to any player taken then... but obviously, players were also going to be selected AFTER we made our picks...so SOMEONE was not going to still be there after the draft. If there are players that YOU want to get... you take them. Once the draft is done, even if the player is still there, it does not mean he will sign with you.

Capers was listed by many as worthy in the 3rd round. What's the problem? Maybe I'm dense, but I just don't get it.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri May 07, 2010 12:34 pm

Countertrey wrote:Actually, what I meant was, I suspect that at the time they picked, these guys were the best available that met a need... Look, you have the picks... you use them on a player that you want. At this point in the draft, you are looking for leakers, and sleepers. The same "logic" could be applied to any player taken then... but obviously, players were also going to be selected AFTER we made our picks...so SOMEONE was not going to still be there after the draft. If there are players that YOU want to get... you take them. Once the draft is done, even if the player is still there, it does not mean he will sign with you.

Capers was listed by many as worthy in the 3rd round. What's the problem? Maybe I'm dense, but I just don't get it.

Ok I get it.. my explanation was better but whatever.. jerk.. :lol:

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