Ben Roethlisberger Accused of Sexual Assault

jeremyroyce · Post by **jeremyroyce** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:20 pm

http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescripti ... fault.aspx

TMZ.com reports Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has been accused of sexual assault by a young woman in Georgia.

The alleged incident occurred early this morning at Capital City -- a club in Milledgeville, Georgia.

According to law enforcement sources, the alleged victim -- who has already been interviewed by police -- was treated at a local hospital and released.

We're told in addition to the alleged victim, witnesses are being interviewed -- and one law enforcement source says they will attempt to interview Roethlisberger.

In addition to the Milledgeville Police Dept, we've learned the Georgia Bureau of Investigations is also investigating.

Man, I believed him on the first one, but now it's hard for me to believe him on this one. I don't understand what he is thinking.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:43 pm

If you believed him on the first one, I don't understand what your concern is - I thought the first claim was presented in a really good way and the woman was very believable - that sounded like a classic cover-up to me
The first allegation I felt was not investigated as thoroughly as it could have been because of the timing - just my opinion - this time we seem to have more witnesses and a more timely presentation of the claim

I have no illusion that a lot of people will take advantage of these athletes if they can BUT the athletes also have to be a lot more cautious because of that - These guys are very vulnerable to people taking advantage of them but some of them also use that to their own advantage too

hopefully we find out what really happened and everyone gets what they deserve

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:48 am

I'm in PA again guys and obviously the hot topic is Ben. I just heard this morning the bouncer from the club said Ben and his entourage asked that no men be allowed in the VIP. Ben's crew was going out into the main area and getting girls to go back in there with them.

*sigh*.. I really stood up for Ben the first time around but geez dude, what are the odds that they're two gold-diggers out there who'd lie about this? I'm sure the odds aren't that high, than again maybe so. The chick said she's dropping out of college down there cause she doesn't want to deal with the crap. Reports said right after the assault she went outside and grabbed a cop who took her immediately to the hospital.

Why is a 28 year old man going to clubs in a college area? Like, your Ben Ruffburger, your king of Pittsburgh.. granted, there's really no one left in Pittsburgh but gosh dude, grow the hell up already

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:54 pm

langleyparkjoe wrote:I'm in PA again guys and obviously the hot topic is Ben. I just heard this morning the bouncer from the club said Ben and his entourage asked that no men be allowed in the VIP. Ben's crew was going out into the main area and getting girls to go back in there with them.

*sigh*.. I really stood up for Ben the first time around but geez dude, what are the odds that they're two gold-diggers out there who'd lie about this? I'm sure the odds aren't that high, than again maybe so. The chick said she's dropping out of college down there cause she doesn't want to deal with the crap. Reports said right after the assault she went outside and grabbed a cop who took her immediately to the hospital.

Why is a 28 year old man going to clubs in a college area? Like, your Ben Ruffburger, your king of Pittsburgh.. granted, there's really no one left in Pittsburgh but gosh dude, grow the hell up already

The odds are very very likely.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:42 pm

It looks to me like Ben put himself in a situation where someone could take advantage - now, if that is the case and the only problem is that Ben is getting "squeezed" - I hope that he gets into deep crap for it - he's a moron for putting himself in the situation and moron's deserve to be embarrassed

now, if there is anything to these charges, then I hope he sees the inside of a jail cell for a period of time - we all saw (in San Diego) what happens when people who like to be nasty to girls, don't get put away - if that is the case, then I hope he gets treated appropriately by the law AND by the NFL

I must say that I think the Steelers and the Rooney family will be really hard on Ben if there are charges here - his attorney better be really careful because I think the Steelers will let Ben go EVEN if he is just charged with anything - that family will not tolerate anything like this

big mistake

jeremyroyce · Post by **jeremyroyce** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:29 pm

Yeah, he had everything going for him and now he has this. I don't understand what he was thinking. You already have one trial going on and then you put yourself in this position. I wouldn't be surprized if the Steelers get rid of him.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:42 pm

Ben Rothlisberger is an idiot. Apparently, all the near miss did was make him think he was invulnerable.

Whether guilty or not, I won't shed a tear for him, no matter the outcome.

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:48 pm

He hasn't even been formally charged, and he's already condemned? If people would stop jumping to conclusions and wait for the facts to emerge, we'd all be a lot better off.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:00 pm

VetSkinsFan wrote:He hasn't even been formally charged, and he's already condemned? If people would stop jumping to conclusions and wait for the facts to emerge, we'd all be a lot better off.

100% agree.

And the idea of the Steelers getting rid of Big Ben (unless he goes to prison) is laughable.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:57 pm

I'm certainly under no allusions about what might have happened

the ONLY thing I'm disapointed in is the decision he made to put himself in that place - if anyone would like to point out what is wrong about thinking that I'd be interested

this guy should have known better and unless there is an explanation for why he thinks that he could not possibly get into any sort of questionable situation by going there - I guess I'll think he's a moron - that is not comdemning him - that is just my opinion

some of you guys seem to think that there are a lot of these athletes that are entitled to think they can just about do whatever they want and when one of them puts himself in a situation like this you think he's "entitled" to privacy or something - give me a break :roll:

jeremyroyce · Post by **jeremyroyce** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:00 pm

CanesSkins26 wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:He hasn't even been formally charged, and he's already condemned? If people would stop jumping to conclusions and wait for the facts to emerge, we'd all be a lot better off.

100% agree.

And the idea of the Steelers getting rid of Big Ben (unless he goes to prison) is laughable.

First off I said I wouldn't be surprised if they let him go. I'm not saying that it's going to happen. Secondly, how is it laughable? Look, what he has done to the Steelers franchise and now what they have to deal with because of his poor judgement.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:27 pm

VetSkinsFan wrote:He hasn't even been formally charged, and he's already condemned? If people would stop jumping to conclusions and wait for the facts to emerge, we'd all be a lot better off.

You miss the point... the idiot just dodged a bullet, and immediately puts himself into a situation like that again. I cannot feel sorry for stupid.

and, Ben is clearly... stupid.

If you want to feel sorry for him, feel free. The man is an idiot, and does not deserve your concern... but, then, that's your call.

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:27 am

Countertrey wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:He hasn't even been formally charged, and he's already condemned? If people would stop jumping to conclusions and wait for the facts to emerge, we'd all be a lot better off.

You miss the point... the idiot just dodged a bullet, and immediately puts himself into a situation like that again. I cannot feel sorry for stupid.

and, Ben is clearly... stupid.

If you want to feel sorry for him, feel free. The man is an idiot, and does not deserve your concern... but, then, that's your call.

I didn't miss the point. Personally I don't care wtf he did or didn't do. I'm amazed at the wayppl are quick to condemn. Maybe you missed MY point.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:44 am

just an observation, but in looking over the posts the only condemnation (if any) is mainly about Ben's choosing to put himself in this situation

I'm amazed at the way ppl are quick to condemn. Maybe you missed MY point.

AND - why are you 'amazed' that Ben's decision to go to that place might be something that he should not do? It's just not looking like a good idea to some of us - if you think it's fine, that's fine too :shock:

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:02 am

SkinsJock wrote:just an observation, but in looking over the posts the only condemnation (if any) is mainly about Ben's choosing to put himself in this situation

I'm amazed at the way ppl are quick to condemn. Maybe you missed MY point.

AND - why are you 'amazed' that Ben's decision to go to that place might be something that he should not do? It's just not looking like a good idea to some of us - if you think it's fine, that's fine too

I'm not amazed about what Ben did. By my non-attention to it, I was HOPING it was kinda obvious. As I previously stated, I don't give a rats ass what Ben does. He screws his career up, poor him. Poor Pit.

And I interpreted the tone as "he got away with one, now he's at it again." Ben wasn't convicted of anything in Vegas was he? My opinion of the Vegas matter is that the whore didn't get what she wanted out of the situation, so she tried to get some cash outa him. Typical. And it could possibly be the same scenario here. <Note: the following is my specuation>It's not like the clubs are fillled with doctors and lawyers he goes to, I'm sure. I'm sure he goes where all the hot young thangs are. And some of those places can be a golddigger's convention.

Is he brilliant for putting himself in these sitautions? I've never claimed he was. He should be able to live a semi-normal life (note: no where did I saw private). He still should be able to do what he wants to do within reason.

And until it's proven that he DID, in fact break a low, I'm still going off the ideal of innocent until proven guilty. Call me a dreamer :roll:

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:43 am

no worries - he's innocent until proven guilty BUT he's just answered the question about his decision making - he's an idiot

just a stupid idea and he deserves to be in trouble for it

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:28 pm

Look, what he has done to the Steelers franchise and now what they have to deal with because of his poor judgement.

You mean won them two Super Bowls? Again, unless he is convicted of something there is ZERO chance of the Steelers letting him go. The idea that teams really care about this crap with good players is way overblown. Ray Lewis was accused of murder and Leonard Little actually killed someone and both of them played in the NFL after that. Stallworth killed someone not even a year ago and he's already signed with the Ravens. No team is going to release a star player over an unsubstantiated accusation. This type of stuff happens all the time to pro athletes, it's just a bigger story because Big Ben is a high profile athlete.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:44 pm

The Rooneys might be a little different - I certainly hope so

one thing for sure - no matter what we find out happened, every day this guy wakes up he's still the same idiot that went to bed the night before
NOTHING changes that fact

jeremyroyce · Post by **jeremyroyce** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:00 pm

CanesSkins26 wrote:
Look, what he has done to the Steelers franchise and now what they have to deal with because of his poor judgement.

You mean won them two Super Bowls? Again, unless he is convicted of something there is ZERO chance of the Steelers letting him go. The idea that teams really care about this crap with good players is way overblown. Ray Lewis was accused of murder and Leonard Little actually killed someone and both of them played in the NFL after that. Stallworth killed someone not even a year ago and he's already signed with the Ravens. No team is going to release a star player over an unsubstantiated accusation. This type of stuff happens all the time to pro athletes, it's just a bigger story because Big Ben is a high profile athlete.

I get that he won 2 superbowls. But at this point that means nothing. It was one thing that he put not only himself and the whole team in the situation the first time, now you have a second situation and that's a problem. Whether he is guilty or not he has put this team, and his teammates in a bad situation. I'm not talking about Ray Lewis, Leonard Little or Donte Stallworth. This thread was about Ben Roethlisberger.

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:34 am

jeremyroyce wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
Look, what he has done to the Steelers franchise and now what they have to deal with because of his poor judgement.

You mean won them two Super Bowls? Again, unless he is convicted of something there is ZERO chance of the Steelers letting him go. The idea that teams really care about this crap with good players is way overblown. Ray Lewis was accused of murder and Leonard Little actually killed someone and both of them played in the NFL after that. Stallworth killed someone not even a year ago and he's already signed with the Ravens. No team is going to release a star player over an unsubstantiated accusation. This type of stuff happens all the time to pro athletes, it's just a bigger story because Big Ben is a high profile athlete.

I get that he won 2 superbowls. But at this point that means nothing. It was one thing that he put not only himself and the whole team in the situation the first time, now you have a second situation and that's a problem. Whether he is guilty or not he has put this team, and his teammates in a bad situation. I'm not talking about Ray Lewis, Leonard Little or Donte Stallworth. This thread was about Ben Roethlisberger.

Whether he's guilty or not? If he's NOT GUILTY in two accusations, then that means he's not done anything wrong.

I get that he shouldn't but himself in these situations, but he's allowed to live. Yes, he's under the careful watch of the paparazzi, but he's just a guy. These football players are allowed to live.

They make mistakes such as Chad Rinehart. They go to clubs like Big Ben (it could be worse, he could have been another PacMan). To fault them for acting like normal people and making poor judgments with a double standard is ludicrous.

Should he go to Steelers facilities, to church, to home, and no where else? Cut the dude some slack.

And to note, this morning there have been reports that he admitted sexual contact. For Christ's sake, he was at a club in the VIP. WTF do you expect that would happen in a VIP room of a club? Bible study? And as of the latest news, still no charges have been brought officially.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:53 am

I (and others) are not against athletes who try to make the most out of their life in and out of the sports they play - I'm only pointing out that this guy (and others who have tended to take things too far) should make a bit more of an effort to not make his franchise or the NFL look bad

we shall see if the NFL determines that his behaviour is within the code of conduct rules - which by the way, have nothing to do with the 'law'

all I'm pointing out is that he should not have placed himself in this situation and he deserves all the heat - nothing changes that he's just proved that he's an idiot

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:06 am

but as of now, the NFL hasn't taken action. The legal system hasn't taken action. How is this "making hte NFL look bad."? We all know that if if the commish wants to make an example out of someone, he will. And he's taken no action. How about taking a deep breath, and seeing how it unfolds.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:37 am

I'm fine - it seems some here don't want us to have opinions on how dumb and stupid some players can be

I thought this was a place where you could speculate and 'voice' your opinions, hmmmn :roll:

jeremyroyce · Post by **jeremyroyce** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:35 pm

VetSkinsFan wrote:
jeremyroyce wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
Look, what he has done to the Steelers franchise and now what they have to deal with because of his poor judgement.

You mean won them two Super Bowls? Again, unless he is convicted of something there is ZERO chance of the Steelers letting him go. The idea that teams really care about this crap with good players is way overblown. Ray Lewis was accused of murder and Leonard Little actually killed someone and both of them played in the NFL after that. Stallworth killed someone not even a year ago and he's already signed with the Ravens. No team is going to release a star player over an unsubstantiated accusation. This type of stuff happens all the time to pro athletes, it's just a bigger story because Big Ben is a high profile athlete.

I get that he won 2 superbowls. But at this point that means nothing. It was one thing that he put not only himself and the whole team in the situation the first time, now you have a second situation and that's a problem. Whether he is guilty or not he has put this team, and his teammates in a bad situation. I'm not talking about Ray Lewis, Leonard Little or Donte Stallworth. This thread was about Ben Roethlisberger.

Whether he's guilty or not? If he's NOT GUILTY in two accusations, then that means he's not done anything wrong.

I get that he shouldn't but himself in these situations, but he's allowed to live. Yes, he's under the careful watch of the paparazzi, but he's just a guy. These football players are allowed to live.

They make mistakes such as Chad Rinehart. They go to clubs like Big Ben (it could be worse, he could have been another PacMan). To fault them for acting like normal people and making poor judgments with a double standard is ludicrous.

Should he go to Steelers facilities, to church, to home, and no where else? Cut the dude some slack.

And to note, this morning there have been reports that he admitted sexual contact. For Christ's sake, he was at a club in the VIP. WTF do you expect that would happen in a VIP room of a club? Bible study? And as of the latest news, still no charges have been brought officially.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree. With the first sitution he has to be smart enough not to put himself in a situation like he is in now. Whether he is guilty or not that's not the point. He used poor judgement and quite frankly you don't need to go to a club or bar to have a good time. And because he used poor judgement now he is faced with another situation.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:18 am

He may be innocent but he's still painting a bad picture for the image of the NFL/Steelers.

You do carry a responsibility of representing your job well.