Saint fan here

[NOLASaint]

Hey guys, Saint fan here. Just wanted to see your perspective on the game yesterday. I know you probably dont want to here from me but, that game was just awesome! The Skins are a very good team and as much as I like Laron Landry(LSU grad) I was so happy to see him get burned. His head hunting, trash talking mentality has got to stop. All he wants is a big hit and that will hurt you every time. London Fletcher is a beast. He gets better with age. Albert Haynseworth, when healthy, is awesome. Jason Campbell played extremely well. We got beat yesterday, straight up! However, Drew Brees said it best post game. We have been on the sh*t end of the stick ever since I have been a fan. Maybe it's just our turn to get the luck. Now, we were only lucky for the missed field goal by Suisham. The rest of the game, I think, was called correctly. In OT Sellers got rocked and did fumble the ball. His momentum and the fact he was hurt on the play could not get him back to recover the fumble. As a Saints fan, I am on cloud nine. We FINALLY have a good team. Good game yesterday guys. I wish every team can experience the good fortune that has come our way this year. Good luck for the rest of the season.

[DEHog]

Hey guys, Saint fan here. Just wanted to see your perspective on the game yesterday. I know you probably dont want to here from me but, that game was just awesome! The Skins are a very good team and as much as I like Laron Landry(LSU grad) I was so happy to see him get burned. His head hunting, trash talking mentality has got to stop. All he wants is a big hit and that will hurt you every time. London Fletcher is a beast. He gets better with age. Albert Haynseworth, when healthy, is awesome. Jason Campbell played extremely well. We got beat yesterday, straight up! However, Drew Brees said it best post game. We have been on the sh*t end of the stick ever since I have been a fan. Maybe it's just our turn to get the luck. Now, we were only lucky for the missed field goal by Suisham. The rest of the game, I think, was called correctly. In OT Sellers got rocked and did fumble the ball. His momentum and the fact he was hurt on the play could not get him back to recover the fumble. As a Saints fan, I am on cloud nine. We FINALLY have a good team. Good game yesterday guys. I wish every team can experience the good fortune that has come our way this year. Good luck for the rest of the season.

Congrats on the win and your season...I'm not one who believes a game is lost on one play but you have to admit when you see a ref point to the ground as in the play is dead...doesn't that strike you as a bad call??

Also you better get that D going you gave up 500 yards of O to a very average mostly second string O...Best of luck the rest of the way...Saints fan deserve it!!

[SKINFAN]

I'm pulling for ya Saints. You guys have a good D coord (didn't seem like it yesterday). I hope you guys go undefeated, even if you don't win the Superbowl I think being undefeated is great. Every year a team wins the superbowl, but not every year a team goes undefeated.

[skinsfan#33]

Hey guys, Saint fan here. Just wanted to see your perspective on the game yesterday. I know you probably dont want to here from me but, that game was just awesome! The Skins are a very good team and as much as I like Laron Landry(LSU grad) I was so happy to see him get burned. His head hunting, trash talking mentality has got to stop. All he wants is a big hit and that will hurt you every time. London Fletcher is a beast. He gets better with age. Albert Haynseworth, when healthy, is awesome. Jason Campbell played extremely well. We got beat yesterday, straight up! However, Drew Brees said it best post game. We have been on the sh*t end of the stick ever since I have been a fan. Maybe it's just our turn to get the luck. Now, we were only lucky for the missed field goal by Suisham. The rest of the game, I think, was called correctly. In OT Sellers got rocked and did fumble the ball. His momentum and the fact he was hurt on the play could not get him back to recover the fumble. As a Saints fan, I am on cloud nine. We FINALLY have a good team. Good game yesterday guys. I wish every team can experience the good fortune that has come our way this year. Good luck for the rest of the season.

Congrats, you all made the plays you needed to make and we didn't (missed FG) and you got calls from the ref!

NO, that was NOT a fumble. Sellers was clearly down and it was even questionable, based on the wacky NFL rules, if that was even a catch.

The refs DEFINATELY gooned the interception/fumble/TD play before half. There were only two options on how to rule on that play. Either it was an incomplete pass (no pick) because the ball hit the ground or it was down by contact. If he made the pick, he was clearly on Shockey when he made the pick, there is no way anyone not rooting for the Saints (and most Saints fans) can see it as a pick AND not down by contact.

If Moore had taken that to the house and scored for the Skins, I would still have said he was down by contact (actually I don't think he even made the pick), but more importantly the refs would have called him down or no pick. The only reason they called it the way they did was because it was a huge play for your team!

Yesterday was the first day I have ever questioned weather refs were trying to impose their will on the outcome of a game and they were clearly pulling for the Saints!

However, that said, our idiot kicker needs to make a 23 yard FG to ice the game and our idiot FS needs to stop biting on double moves!

[NOLASaint]

Thanks guys for all the best wishes.

DEHog, I thought we did have a good D. Yesterday made me a little nervous. I think and hope it was a result of an excellent game plan by the Skins. We are almost completely healthy on D, missing both corners but, these were the same guys who manhandled Brady. Who knows.

SKINFAN, the superbowl is obviously the main goal. It would be great for us fans who have supported these guys throughout the bad times. Not to mention great for the city. Trust me, I hate the Katrina talk as much as the next non-Louisianian and do not want to hear it every five minutes on ESPN should we make the Superbowl. Could you imagine? Ughh, move on!!

skinsfan#33, dude...C'MON MAN! Whoever thinks the NFL is pulling for the Saints and makes the Zebra's call the NFL headquarters on every big play challenge is obviously nuts!! Can you actually, honestly say yesterday was the first time you thought the refs were pulling in favor of the opposing team? People who think like this always think like this. I am sure by your post, and by our fans posts in the past, you have thought that the ref's were against you on other occasions. The ref's called a good, fair game. C'MON MAN!!!!!

[DEHog]

skinsfan#33, dude...C'MON MAN! Whoever thinks the NFL is pulling for the Saints and makes the Zebra's call the NFL headquarters on every big play challenge is obviously nuts!! Can you actually, honestly say yesterday was the first time you thought the refs were pulling in favor of the opposing team? People who think like this always think like this. I am sure by your post, and by our fans posts in the past, you have thought that the ref's were against you on other occasions. The ref's called a good, fair game. C'MON MAN!!!!!

Yea...it couldn't be that the NFL wants two undefeated team now could it

[NOLASaint]

Do you think that "play by the rules, no fun" Roger Goodel would actually compromise the integrity of the game? Football is the only sport without controversy for a reason.

[VetSkinsFan]

Do you think that "play by the rules, no fun" Roger Goodel would actually compromise the integrity of the game? Football is the only sport without controversy for a reason.

Ed Hochuli killed that one. Now it's damage control from there on out.

[skinsfan#33]

Do you think that "play by the rules, no fun" Roger Goodel would actually compromise the integrity of the game? Football is the only sport without controversy for a reason.

Maybe, I exagerated a little, but saying the refs called a good fair game is just nuts and I'm sure you couldn't type it with a straight face

How do you kick a ball off, recover the kick off, and the ball is given to the other team w/o any explaination?

Your DE tried to break Campbell's leg late in the 4th qtr in plane view of the Umpire (the same guy that gave your team some very obvious breaks during reviews) and no roughing was called.

No way that INT/fumble/TD would have stood if it had been INT returned for a TD by the Skins and all of the Saints fans would be yelling, "come on, man, he was down!" And I would have been the first to say they were right. I was wondering why Moore was running after the pick, because he was clear as day down by contact! The replays showed him down (and possibly not make the pick!).

Sellers was clearly down. But even if you say it was close, there wasn't enough to overturn the ruling on the field!

But other than that I guess the refs did a good job

[NOLASaint]

#33, I am lost. What do you mean by returning a kick and the other team takes possesion with no explanation? Also, I didn't see our DE hit Campbell low. Must have been a missed call like the facemask on our special teams guy, usama young, who recovered the punt. That stuff just happens and we try not to make excuses. I have heard alot of it from our LSU fans this year. Every game has missed calls but none of them were result of the big plays we are talking about.

[NOLASaint]

Vetskinsfan, you are correct on that one. However he is just a wannabe bodybuilder tight shirt wearing dumbass.

[skinsfan#33]

#33, I am lost. What do you mean by returning a kick and the other team takes possesion with no explanation? Also, I didn't see our DE hit Campbell low. Must have been a missed call like the facemask on our special teams guy, usama young, who recovered the punt. That stuff just happens and we try not to make excuses. I have heard alot of it from our LSU fans this year. Every game has missed calls but none of them were result of the big plays we are talking about.

I was talking about in the 3rd or 4th qtr when the Skins kicked the ball off to Saints (other wise know as a free kick) and they intentionally squib kicked it. The Saints never fielded the kick, there was a pile up and the Skins recovered the ball.

But the refs gave the ball to the Saints w/o an explanation as to why they gave it too them!

Yes, I missed the facemask that you are talking about, but I wasn't standing right there and it wasn't my job to just watch the QB. That was the Umpires job. Campbell was injured on the play. Your DE hit him low (roughing) and late (roughing). But hey his name isn't Manning, Brady, Farve or Breeze so DEs can try to break his leg after the play and no flag or (like last week) they can pick him up and WWE style pile drive him on his head (after the play - no flag!)

The injury to Campbell's ankle contributed to the INT, since he couldn't step into the throw!

The refs may have been OK, but the Umpire definitely had some ulterior motives.

[SkinsJock]

I must admit that I was hoping the Saints could go undefeated this year even though one of the games would be against the Redskins

BUT, if there are many Saints fans that think:
a) the Saints should have won that game
b) the Saints were not very lucky to win that game
c) the Saints deserved in any way to win that game

then I'm hoping your team comes up short

The Saints did not win the game per se and did not deserve to win the game given that they did not play very well at all against this group of players in B&G - we are not near as good as your team and yet we almost won the game

The Redskins lost the game, but they should have won it - we have won a few games in the last 2 years that we should not have won but we do not think we are better than we are - IF we had won yesterday we would still know that we are a bad football team

IF you guys can manage to go undefeated then I'll try and be one of the earliest to pm you with congratulations - but, when you lose, I'll try and be one of the first to send my condolences as well

[Sir_Monk]

#33, I am lost. What do you mean by returning a kick and the other team takes possesion with no explanation? Also, I didn't see our DE hit Campbell low. Must have been a missed call like the facemask on our special teams guy, usama young, who recovered the punt. That stuff just happens and we try not to make excuses. I have heard alot of it from our LSU fans this year. Every game has missed calls but none of them were result of the big plays we are talking about.

I was talking about in the 3rd or 4th qtr when the Skins kicked the ball off to Saints (other wise know as a free kick) and they intentionally squib kicked it. The Saints never fielded the kick, there was a pile up and the Skins recovered the ball.

But the refs gave the ball to the Saints w/o an explanation as to why they gave it too them!

Yes, I missed the facemask that you are talking about, but I wasn't standing right there and it wasn't my job to just watch the QB. That was the Umpires job. Campbell was injured on the play. Your DE hit him low (roughing) and late (roughing). But hey his name isn't Manning, Brady, Farve or Breeze so DEs can try to break his leg after the play and no flag or (like last week) they can pick him up and WWE style pile drive him on his head (after the play - no flag!)

The injury to Campbell's ankle contributed to the INT, since he couldn't step into the throw!

The refs may have been OK, but the Umpire definitely had some ulterior motives.

dude, the play was whistled dead well before the guy from the Redskins wrestled it away from the Saints player.

We were on the tail end of some tough calls yesterday, but the Cowboys game for example, were also on the receiving end of some very generous ones. You win some, you lose some, but at the day if Swizzy had hit that chip shot, none of this would be talked about.

[NOLASaint]

Skinsjock, I don't agree with a,b,or c. Read my first post. We got beat yesterday. We got lucky... For once! That don't happen often to us. I am saying you have to be crazy to think the NFL has put together a scheme for the saints to win. It was LUCK not a plan.

[chiefhog44]

#33, I am lost. What do you mean by returning a kick and the other team takes possesion with no explanation? Also, I didn't see our DE hit Campbell low. Must have been a missed call like the facemask on our special teams guy, usama young, who recovered the punt. That stuff just happens and we try not to make excuses. I have heard alot of it from our LSU fans this year. Every game has missed calls but none of them were result of the big plays we are talking about.

The interception was the right call, although it was as close as the Sellers fumble as to whether he caught it or not. You can't overturn that call. It was ruled an interception and the video was too close to overturn it. He intercepted it and then fumbled...fair and square.

We missed the Field goal, shoulda woulda coulda won the game. We beat the Saints all the way to that point and couldn't cash it in. Lucky as hell, but a loss is a loss. We beat ourselves. The Saints certainly did not win the game. We lost it.

Now the Sellers fumble was total BS. He was rulled down, so to overturn the call as close as that, was interesting to say the least. You can't overturn a call that is that close. The announcers were all saying that he was down, I wasn't even worried about it being overturned because the initial call was that he was down. Video showed that his elbow was down and the laces were not moving until after his elbow hit the ground. I rewound it like 40 times. Had the ref ruled that he fumbled the ball, I would have looked at it like I did the interception. Too close to call and there was not enough video proof that the ball was coming out. With that said, I'm a Purdue fan and am rooting for Brees. Not sure you will win it all. I actually think we were the better team with second and third stringers in there, but maybe luck is on your side this year. Here's to hoping.

[ATX_Skins]

No NOLA, you guys didn't get beat yesterday, you got outplayed.

Lucky, maybe but I don't believe in luck. Good teams find ways to win plain and simple.

Might want to start fixing the leaks in that boat though before the playoffs or your looking at a short run for sure.

[NOLASaint]

ATX, what are you thick or something? Beat, outplayed, outscored, outcoached...however you wanna put it, I don't give a shizz! Like you said good teams do find a way to win and that's what happened. Now, answer me this: would we have won if Suish made the kick? I doubt it. That's were luck comes in my friend. This happened against the dolphins this year. We came back from a serious azz beatin. 16 - 0 is hard to do so, just bc we slipped up this weekend doesn't mean we "have holes to fix". I bet even the 72 dolphins had to overcome a hiccup that year. I still doubt we go undefeated but I am confident we win the superbowl. Our offense is too much for any defense to handle and finally we have a good not great defense. Your old coach has us first in takeaways and will make some of our guys probowlers. He is a he'll of a coach and Snyder f'd up by letting him go. Trust me, when we are talking about "holes in a boat" we have less than any other team in the LEAGUE!

[ATX_Skins]

ATX, what are you thick or something? Beat, outplayed, outscored, outcoached...however you wanna put it, I don't give a shizz! Like you said good teams do find a way to win and that's what happened. Now, answer me this: would we have won if Suish made the kick? I doubt it. That's were luck comes in my friend. This happened against the dolphins this year. We came back from a serious azz beatin. 16 - 0 is hard to do so, just bc we slipped up this weekend doesn't mean we "have holes to fix". I bet even the 72 dolphins had to overcome a hiccup that year. I still doubt we go undefeated but I am confident we win the superbowl. Our offense is too much for any defense to handle and finally we have a good not great defense. Your old coach has us first in takeaways and will make some of our guys probowlers. He is a he'll of a coach and Snyder f'd up by letting him go. Trust me, when we are talking about "holes in a boat" we have less than any other team in the LEAGUE!

There you go NOLA. Thats the true New Orleans fan I knew would show through. Instead of admitting that a close game with a 3-8 team may reveal so weaknesses you go and mention the Saints and the 72 Dolphins in the same paragragh. Boasting about being the most complete team in the league.

You forgot about the Colts though...

Good "luck" with the remainder of your season.

[NOLASaint]

You know, I just learned something. This is the ONLY message board I have been to in which I get into An argument by praising the opponents team. I guess I am not used to this type of class. I come in humbled, admitting defeat and get treated like I bashed your club. I say we got beat and got lucky. Where I am from would take that as a compliment that the opposing fans admit defeat and say great game, you guys have a great club. However this bozo argues with me when I said we got beat or got lucky. He prefers the term "outplayed" and "doesn't believe in luck". Well obviously I do not belong in this type of forum. I will be sure not to come back and will let others know what kind of fans are in DC. Late.

[frankcal20]

Let me apologize on behalf of all Redskins fans. He tends to grandstand a little bit so don't hold it against him. Thanks for the kind words but you saw our best game of football all season so I'm sure based on the NO Saints' past, you know how we feel. We're a little touchy and angry.

[NOLASaint]

Thank you Frank. ATM is a royal A hole!!! Trust me, I understand what you are going through. All I wanted to do was congratulate you guys on a he'll of a game. You should be proud of your team. Thanks again Frank.

[frankcal20]

There are a lot of us that will be pulling for the Saint's to represent the NFC in the Superbowl. As a former NC State alum and HUGE STATE FAN - I hope to see San Diego (Philip Rivers) also in the SB vs NO this year. Best of luck the rest of the way.

[skinsfan#33]

dude, the play was whistled dead well before the guy from the Redskins wrestled it away from the Saints player.

We were on the tail end of some tough calls yesterday, but the Cowboys game for example, were also on the receiving end of some very generous ones. You win some, you lose some, but at the day if Swizzy had hit that chip shot, none of this would be talked about.

Dude!

I just looked at it again and when the whistle blew you could see the Skins player had the ball and the Saints player wastrying to pull it from him, not the other way around. No ref ever signaled that it was the Saints ball. After the talked they gave the ball to the Saints with no cause. That was an obvious a disreguard of NFL rules.

I am now 100% certain that call was blown and the refs knew the Skins recovered but didn't want to give them the ball on the Saint 20 with a 10 point lead in the 4th qtr.

Oh, yeah. I looked at the Skins pick and the correct call should have been incomplete pass. The ball clearly touched the ground twice. But if they say he was down and the ground cause the ball to move that is still incomplete or at least down by contact.

The Skins WILL get a letter from the NFL saying they gooned both of those calls!

[Sir_Monk]

There are a lot of us that will be pulling for the Saint's to represent the NFC in the Superbowl. As a former NC State alum and HUGE STATE FAN - I hope to see San Diego (Philip Rivers) also in the SB vs NO this year. Best of luck the rest of the way.

I deployed with a group for the Louisiana Army National Guard in '07. A lot of those guys in that unit are die hard Saints fans. I'm happy for them that they get to experience such a fun ride, after years and years of being at the basement of the NFL.