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Dan Snyder’s attempt to kill the message was in full force. I didn’t go to the game, so everything’s anecdotal, but there’s so much.

Tales of scuffles with security over signs and t-shirts blasting the owner abound. The only first-person account I got was from a friend who called me from FedExField just after being searched at the gate like he was boarding an El Al flight.

He asked the frisker, “Are you looking for anti-Snyder paraphernalia?”

“As a matter of fact, I am,” the guard told him.


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David Alperin has only one paper plate left.

After watching the Redskins lose and lose ugly for years, Alperin wanted to make a statement about the mismanagement of his favorite sports team. Every fellow season ticketholder he knew wanted to make the same statement.

So Alperin spent hours decorating plates with a photo of Dan Snyder’s face and a red circle and line through the middle, or what he understood to be the international symbol for “Snyder Sucks!” He also painted a two-by-three-foot paper sign that said love the redskins. hate the owner!

He took stacks of the plates and the rolled-up sign with him to the Redskins game versus Tampa Bay. In the FedExField parking lots before kickoff, he was pleased, but not surprised, by the reaction his artwork received. The grounds were full of like-minded folks, many of whom had also brought their own handiworks to rail against the state of the franchise.

These were folks who loved the Redskins but no longer had a shred of goodwill toward Snyder. This was the day he’d been building toward ever since he took over the team in 1999, and, as quickly as he could, put in place things like $10 admission charges and $10 parking fees for training camp, both unprecedented. And it’s been going downhill ever since. The folks who bothered going to FedExField to see the lowly Skins play the lowlier Bucs were united in their belief that Snyder was no good for the team or the fans.

“I gave away all of my plates,” Alperin says. “If I’d have made 1,000, I could have given away 1,000. Everybody wanted one. Everybody loved them.”

The security staff at the stadium gates, however, wasn’t so receptive. Guards took the plates from Alperin as he tried to enter. They told him he would have to throw his poster in the garbage, too.

The night before the game, Alperin had checked the stadium rules posted on Snyder’s own Web site, redskins.com, to make sure that his agitprop props were within bounds—signs were permitted, so long as they weren’t mounted on poles and didn’t contain any profane or vulgar language.

But those rules no longer applied.

“I said I knew what the rules were,” Alperin says. “The guards told me, ‘We changed the rules last night!’ The security supervisor was walking up and down and was directing all the guards in the security lines to grab the signs and was very vigorous about grabbing all the signage. I don’t think any of the plates I gave away made it inside the stadium.”

Alperin saw his plates and poster thrown in trash piles at the entrances, which were full of decorated paper bags and signs and all sorts of other anti-Snyder paraphernalia made by other fans. The buzz everybody had felt in the parking lot was killed; Prague Spring for Redskins fans had been crushed by the ownership’s heavy-handed tactics.

“If the Redskins had announced a new policy about signs a week earlier, I would not have been happy about it, but I could have lived with it,” he says. “I’m a native Washingtonian, been a Redskins fan my whole life. Now, I’m very frustrated and just wanted to express my opinion, and that was denied.”

Faraji Rosenthall had a paper bag that he intended to wear on his head taken at the gate. Rosenthall, an Alexandria native and lifelong Skins fan, says he decided to take a stand against Snyder after hearing about the bag-wearing campaign organized by sports-talk station WJFK-FM.

Rosenthall thinks whatever short-term gains the Redskins owner achieved by stifling criticism that day will be poleaxed over the long run by all the bad will his Sedition Acts have incited.

“I’m fascinated by how much anger there is towards Dan Snyder now,” Rosenthall says. “His organization is so poorly run, and he does so many things that are ass-backwards, like [confiscating] the bags. As a lawyer, I felt that he probably had the right to do that, to regulate what comes in as he did, being the owner of a private facility. So I didn’t argue, I just threw away the bag. But it just seemed so petty and small, so unnecessary. The backlash against him now is amazing. I was talking to my friends about this, and none of us could come up with anybody who’s even close to being hated as much as he is in D.C. You can’t even name a politician who comes close! That’s mind-boggling for this town.”

Redskins spokesman Karl Swanson did not respond to questions about the changes in FedExField’s sign policy.

Maggie Cameron is among those now trying to foment the hate. Cameron went to the Tampa Bay game wearing a T-shirt she made that said sell the team dan, and she says she was mobbed by like-minded fans asking for a shirt of their own. A photo of her in the shirt made Dan Steinberg’s D.C. Sports Bog at washingtonpost.com a day later. But the photo of Cameron disappeared from the blog after publication, along with other shots of civilly disobedient fans, and there was no explanation on the Post site for the disappearance. Steinberg declined to discuss the situation. Matt Vita, sports editor of the Washington Post, explains that the pictures of Cameron and the others were removed at the request of the Redskins.

“The Redskins said [Steinberg] was in violation of his credentials for taking the photographs,” Vita says. “We honored that request, because at the end of the day, they control access to their facility.”

Steinberg has over the years published photos taken at Redskins games using the exact same press pass, such as one featuring Alex Ovechkin at FedExField, without any complaints from the team or requests to have the pictures removed.

Cameron says she previously wore Skins jerseys to games. “My closet is organized by color,” she says, “and I have a huge burgundy-and-gold section.” But she admits loving the celebrity that the anti-Snyder shirt has given her at the stadium. She’s set up a Web site, selltheteamdan.com, to promote owner-bashing. The censorship of the bags, posters, and (mainly) her photo motivated her to produce copies of the shirt, and to plan an anti-Snyder rally at FedExField before the Skins–Eagles game on Monday night.

“What Dan Snyder did needs to be talked about,” she says. “This was fascist. So we’re doing something. We’re going to give away shirts. And if he tries banning this shirt, we’ll come up with another one. This isn’t going to end soon.”

When Alperin got home from the Tampa Bay game, he found a plate with Snyder’s face crossed out floating in an otherwise-empty cooler. That’s the only one left, he says, and he’s holding on to it to remind him of the anger he felt when the guards threw away his handiwork.

That anger will survive beyond even the Redskins turning things around and winning, should such a day ever come.

“What [Snyder] did was very cowardly,” Alperin says. “If he had allowed myself and other fans to vent, this would have eventually disappeared. Now? I don’t think it will. Now I’m more livid about the change in policy and the way this was handled than I was about the play of the team. We all know this was about the message, not the medium.”


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Do you see this sign? I fished this sign out of a garbage can outside FedEx Field. It was in the garbage can because there's a new policy that says no signs of any sort are permitted inside the stadium. Even signs sending best wishes to husbands in Afghanistan.

When and why was this change made? I asked Monday morning, and as of Monday evening, a Redskins spokesman said he still wasn't sure. I just know that there was a policy listed on the team's Web site as recently as Oct. 4 that merely banned inappropriate and offensive signs, or something to that effect, and that as of now, that wording is gone.

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Has anyone seen the quotes from Redskins general counsel David Donovan...

"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said, in a quote I'm likely to recycle 7,000 times in the next week or so. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."


They don't see a difference in the way that the fans are behaving, yet they banned all signs from the stadium? Hahaha :roll:
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Hello Fellow Die Hard Redskin fans. I am a die hard Redskins fan that now lives in San Diego. I am a season ticket holder and go to about 3 games at home each year. The team that has been put on the field is an absolute disgrace. This happens year after year. There is only one person at fault here. This man is Daniel Snyder. It is time that tell the world how we feel about this man. I have an idea of putting up a billboard in the Washington DC area. I have called a company and gotten it approved. I want the billboard to say “The only one who should be fired is you Dan Snyder.” This billboard costs at least $3000. I want to raise money to put this up. I need your help of ways to do this. Again this needed approval and it has gotten it. I just need to pay for this. Please help raise money. I need ideas of how to do this. Lets come together and SHOW Dan Snyder how we feel. Please email me your ideas. This needs to be done. Sg1123383@aol.com

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There was a sign someone was holding last night that said:

"UNCONDITIONAL LOVE"

That is probably the only type of propagandist sign they would allow (probably placed by one of his yes men) -- mainly because these are the type of fans Snyder hopes for....the ones that will still continue to give him money regardless of the crap he puts (and picks) on the field.
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Tattoos may be the answer!!


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NC43Hog wrote:Tattoos may be the answer!!


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I've defended Dan and have vented frustration towards the man over the years.

But this news is disgusting.

Unconditional love? Seriously?

I can honestly write that even more than the sorry state of the team, reading about these tactics, trampling free spech in our Nation's Capital, complete with the traditional goons 'just doing our job', is the lowest point in my lifetime with this team.

I've bristled at the writers over the years who have hammered Dan. But they were right.

Suing fans, stopping protest, and the list goes on and on - it's not possible to root for Snyder as he is today.
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It gets worse. According to WUSA the Redskins have banned media interviews with tailgaters at FedEx Field. Unbelievable.
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Hoss wrote:
NC43Hog wrote:Tattoos may be the answer!!


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You know that dude in Afghanistan woke up at 3am to catch this game. I made that mistake last year when the Steelers pounded our faces in on National TV.
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ATX_Skins wrote:You know that dude in Afghanistan woke up at 3am to catch this game. I made that mistake last year when the Steelers pounded our faces in on National TV.


I hope he got to see that picture on the internet since it was not allowed into FedEx
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ATX_Skins wrote:You know that dude in Afghanistan woke up at 3am to catch this game. I made that mistake last year when the Steelers pounded our faces in on National TV.


I hope he got to see that picture on the internet since it was not allowed into FedEx


I'm sure he knows about it. Apparently that lady wrote in about it to Mike Wise or someone at The Washington Post. But yeah man I agree with you.
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This is the real embarassment. We can put a terrible team on the field for the next 10 years, and there won't be anything worse than this. What kind of team bans signs from their stadium? What kind of front office can't take criticism to that kind of extreme level? Who does Dan Snyder think he is? I hope WaPo keeps beating the drum on this one, because its unforgivable.
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CanesSkins26 wrote:It gets worse. According to WUSA the Redskins have banned media interviews with tailgaters at FedEx Field. Unbelievable.


We did one???
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BossHog wrote a nice piece about this. This whole thing (and by thing, I mean the Redskins organization) is ridiculous.

Right now, they need to be LESS abrasive, not MORE.
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PulpExposure wrote:BossHog wrote a nice piece about this. This whole thing (and by thing, I mean the Redskins organization) is ridiculous.

Right now, they need to be LESS abrasive, not MORE.

It is about ONE EGO. How can it get less abrasive and confrontational?

There is no discontent because they say so !!! GET IT !!!??? :lol:

Why does this remind me of the Emperor's New Clothesstory by H.C. Andersen? ROTFALMAO

How fitting!!! Please read it people. :lol:
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By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports 4 hours, 33 minutes ago


Let’s see if we can get this all straight. The Washington Redskins are 2-5, last in the NFC East and averaging an inept 13.7 points. The owner, Daniel Snyder, has neutered head coach Jim Zorn but refused to fire him. The general manager, Vinny Cerrato, is approaching a fifth straight NFL draft class without a Pro Bowl player. And the team’s two biggest free agent signings, defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth(notes) and cornerback DeAngelo Hall(notes), have separately questioned the team’s desire and talent.

So what do the upper reaches of management do? They tacitly tell the salary-supporting, skybox-filling, Bentley-providing fanbase to shut up. That’s right: Signs have officially been banned. Scream all you want, just don’t show up with a message that could land on television screens or in media photos. If you bring them, security will insist you check them with the garbage bin attendants. And if you sneak them, you’ll be booted out of the stadium.

Maybe it’s just me, but there is something very Detroit Lions-esque about this latest move: Poor coaching choices; mediocre drafts; losses; blowing a soft schedule. Yet, jettison the guy with the “Snyder Sucks” banner? He’s really killing the vibe.

Of course, the Redskins say the policy change is because the signs block the view of other fans or could potentially cause a boo-boo.

Said Redskins chief operating officer David Donovan, in an interview with 106.7 The Fan in Washington: “The banners we do have a prohibition against. We don’t care what they say, and we take them down. They get in the way of other people watching the game and people getting poked in the head. That stuff happens.”

Maybe Donovan hasn’t seen his team in the red zone. What happens when you get poked in the head with that? Frankly, maybe the team should go the opposite way and ask fans to bring even bigger, more obstructive banners. Then they wouldn’t see what is happening on the field, which would probably be for the best.

The funny thing about this whole deal, this “no signs” provision didn’t exist until some point after the team’s rough start, when fans started blasting Snyder with both barrels. As Washington Post blogger Dan Steinberg pointed out, the Redskins 2009 season guide said this about signs:

“Banners are permitted at FedEx Field; however, Guests may not display banners that advertise or mention products or services. Banners may not cover existing FedEx Field equipment or signage. Signs may not be made with metal or wood. Management reserves the right to remove any sign, including those deemed to be obscene, inappropriate or which obstructs the view of other Guests. For the safety of all Guests, banner poles are not permitted.”

So in other words, most banners were permitted. Then it became obscene to criticize Snyder, so no banners whatsoever were permitted. That’s pretty much the typical action when a franchise hits an impotent skid and ownership struggles against mounting discontent. You limit the fans’ ability to vent at games. The Lions did that, too, banning “Fire Millen” signs at one of the low points of former team president Matt Millen’s tenure. So the message is pretty clear: Buy the tickets and don’t question the management – which sort of makes watching a Redskins game like flying coach.

But let’s be real here: Going after the fans in any way, shape or form is just another in a long line of mistakes for this team (i.e. suing season-ticket holders). It only makes matters worse, speaking to a thin-skinned owner and his disconnect from the fans who support his team. And in that respect, Daniel Snyder’s reign has never failed to deliver.
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I just sent the article/blog written by Boss to ALL the local stations. I hope they read it and at least comment on it on air.
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langleyparkjoe wrote:I just sent the article/blog written by Boss to ALL the local stations. I hope they read it and at least comment on it on air.
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langleyparkjoe wrote:I just sent the article/blog written by Boss to ALL the local stations. I hope they read it and at least comment on it on air.


Somebody should send it to Dan Steinberg. I bet he'd post it on his Wash Post blog.
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I actually do not have a problem with the redskins banning negative signs. Most companies would do the exact same thing and it really doesn't help the team to have these negative signs.

In addition, it is snyder's team and snyder's stadium so you have no right to come into his house and be disrespectful. Just like I wouldn't let you come into my home with a sign saying I am an idiot.

I also saw lots of signs at the game on monday night so i am not so sure about the truth of this reporting.
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lowtharofthehill wrote:I actually do not have a problem with the redskins banning negative signs. Most companies would do the exact same thing and it really doesn't help the team to have these negative signs.

In addition, it is snyder's team and snyder's stadium so you have no right to come into his house and be disrespectful. Just like I wouldn't let you come into my home with a sign saying I am an idiot.

I also saw lots of signs at the game on monday night so i am not so sure about the truth of this reporting.


Hmmmm.. one thing I'll say about that one bro.. WE ARE NOT HIS EMPLOYEES!! So I have a right to pay OUTLANDISH amounts of money to watch MY favorite team (can't forget about $8 beers) and your telling me I can't make a sign that says "Love my Skins but we need a new owner!"? What about the sign about the lady's husband overseas?? How is that disrespectful??? Curse words and such shouldn't be tolerated but that's not what we're talking about here... *sp edit*

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langleyparkjoe wrote:
lowtharofthehill wrote:I actually do not have a problem with the redskins banning negative signs. Most companies would do the exact same thing and it really doesn't help the team to have these negative signs.

In addition, it is snyder's team and snyder's stadium so you have no right to come into his house and be disrespectful. Just like I wouldn't let you come into my home with a sign saying I am an idiot.

I also saw lots of signs at the game on monday night so i am not so sure about the truth of this reporting.


Hmmmm.. one thing I'll say about that one bro.. WE ARE NOT HIS EMPLOYEES!! So I have a right to pay OUTLANDISH amounts of money to watch MY favorite team (can't forget about $8 beers) and your telling me I can't make a sign that says "Love my Skins but we need a new owner!"? What about the sign about the lady's husband overseas?? How is that disrespectful??? Curse words and such shouldn't be tolerated but that's not what we're talking about here... *sp edit*

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I'm not so sure about that sign (the Afghanistan one). Just like there are two sides to every story, we can't see what was on the other side of that sign. You'll notice in the lower corner of the sign, you can see the bar code. That is typically considered the "back" of the board.

There were signs there. They showed them on TV.

Sure, none of them said "Snyder Sucks" or "Sell the Team" but I wouldn't be so sure that the sign in the picture was as innocent as it appeared.
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lowtharofthehill wrote:I actually do not have a problem with the redskins banning negative signs. Most companies would do the exact same thing and it really doesn't help the team to have these negative signs.

In addition, it is snyder's team and snyder's stadium so you have no right to come into his house and be disrespectful. Just like I wouldn't let you come into my home with a sign saying I am an idiot.

I also saw lots of signs at the game on monday night so i am not so sure about the truth of this reporting.


Hmmmm.. one thing I'll say about that one bro.. WE ARE NOT HIS EMPLOYEES!! So I have a right to pay OUTLANDISH amounts of money to watch MY favorite team (can't forget about $8 beers) and your telling me I can't make a sign that says "Love my Skins but we need a new owner!"? What about the sign about the lady's husband overseas?? How is that disrespectful??? Curse words and such shouldn't be tolerated but that's not what we're talking about here... *sp edit*

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I'm not so sure about that sign (the Afghanistan one). Just like there are two sides to every story, we can't see what was on the other side of that sign. You'll notice in the lower corner of the sign, you can see the bar code. That is typically considered the "back" of the board.

There were signs there. They showed them on TV.

Sure, none of them said "Snyder Sucks" or "Sell the Team" but I wouldn't be so sure that the sign in the picture was as innocent as it appeared.


Good catch Bob. I saw the bar code, but didn't give it another thought.
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