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Portis - Seller's have it out
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:49 am
by frankcal20
Sources Confirm Portis-Sellers Incident
Just got off the phone with multiple league sources who confirmed that running back Clinton Portis and fullback Mike Sellers had a heated verbal exchange earlier this week over Portis's frustration about Sellers's blocking this season.
No punches were thrown during the argument - which occurred Monday at Redskins Park and was first reported late Thursday night by WRC (Channel 4) sports reporter and anchor Dan Hellie - but the players had to be separated and restrained, the sources said. From what we're hearing, Sellers confronted Portis at the complex after learning Portis requested to have Sellers removed from the game during Sunday's 16-13 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at FedEx Field.
While speaking with coaches, Portis requested to have blocking tight end Todd Yoder take Sellers's place in the backfield against the Buccaneers. Apparently, Portis's frustration stemmed for the ill-fated fourth-and-goal play in the 19-14 loss to the Detroit Lions on which Sellers failed to execute his blocking assignment, Portis failed to score and Detroit took over on downs.
In a text message to a reporter, one source emphasized no punches were exchanged, and he played down the argument as players "simply letting off some steam." But the Sellers-Portis incident underscores the tension at the complex during a week in which owner Daniel Snyder hired an offensive consultant, Sherman Lewis, because of his dissatisfaction with the poor point production of Coach Jim Zorn's version of the West Coast offense, and in which defensive coordinator Greg Blache, a week after emphasizing the need for personal accountability, informed team officials he no longer would answer questions from reporters - a mandated duty under NFL rules for all coordinators.
The Redskins (2-2) face the Carolina Panthers (0-3) on Sunday at Bank of America Stadium.
That's not good. Those are two guys you want on the same page. They should be locked at the hip with each other. If someone misses an assignment on Sunday, we may have a problem.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:02 pm
by DEHog
WOW...this can't be good
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:08 pm
by Irn-Bru
Things are on the edge of a meltdown. I still have hopes that we can pull together and get on track.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:12 pm
by DEHog
Irn-Bru wrote:Things are on the edge of a meltdown. I still have hopes that we can pull together and get on track.
This week's game is a must see...the losing teams coach is in big trouble IMO
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:12 pm
by MEZZSKIN
All this teams needs now is Susan Lucci to round out the roster.
and before every game the HOUR GLASS POP up
"Like sands thru the hour glass so is the chaos at Redskin park"
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:14 pm
by ArlingtonSkinsFan
Hmmm. I think that this could bring down the ship, or light a spark and bring them closer together. Let's se how those two respond against the worst rushing defense in the league.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:17 pm
by tribeofjudah
You all have this lovefest for Sellers, but he's a big baby Hughie...
As a person, he's fine.
As a player, he must get better and bring is A game.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:24 pm
by Irn-Bru
DEHog wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:Things are on the edge of a meltdown. I still have hopes that we can pull together and get on track.
This week's game is a must see...the losing teams coach is in big trouble IMO
Yeesh. So much pressure, so early on.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:29 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Sellers DID NOT fulfill his assignment in the play on 4th down. I watched him become a spectator and miss his blocking assignment. Portis is right. I have watched the play several times.
The fact that EVERYBODY in the world knows and predicts accurately that we run left in those situations doesn not help much either but ...
... when we are fighting more among our players than our opponents ...
it is the beginning of something worse than we anticipated. How long before Zorn loses the locker room? He already lost the owner who already gave him his "confidence vote" with a "fresh set of eyes".
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:41 pm
by Deadskins
Sellers got his new contract, and now he's become complacent. Didn't see that coming, eh Jake?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:44 pm
by Countertrey
Deadskins wrote:Sellers got his new contract, and now he's become complacent. Didn't see that coming, eh Jake?
Ouch!
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:57 pm
by markshark84
This is just fantastic!!!! 2 of our 3 pro bowlers (and my favorite 2 players on the team) on the offensive side ready to claw at eachother because one is missing blocking assignments, while the other is not averaging 4 ypc.
The implosion continues...........
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:59 pm
by wooly34
Portis should look at himself and realize he needs to do some stability work on a bosu ball. He might be one of the worst running backs at keeping his balance. I have seen him multiple times trip over his own feet or try to cut off of his inside foot and fall down for a 6 yard gain that could have been a 20 yard gain. I don't question his blocking ability or his toughness (although he runs the ball twice and takes himself out of the game, more stamina than toughness), but his ability to maintain proper balance has killed his ypc. Maybe it's because he's hurt, maybe he can't work during the week, but after 4 knee surgeries from a personal standpoint when injured the first thing you work on is stability exercises. Him blaming Sellers for not scoring is ridiculous if he could maintain his balance he would have three to four touchdowns by now. He cries too much and this is a fault of the team no one takes ownership and admits mistakes they have made it's always the team needs to get better. When will someone say I need to get better and when I improve the team will improve. Looks like there's a blizzard at Redskins Park and the snowball is getting bigger by the second.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:26 pm
by brad7686
wooly34 wrote:Portis should look at himself and realize he needs to do some stability work on a bosu ball. He might be one of the worst running backs at keeping his balance. I have seen him multiple times trip over his own feet or try to cut off of his inside foot and fall down for a 6 yard gain that could have been a 20 yard gain. I don't question his blocking ability or his toughness (although he runs the ball twice and takes himself out of the game, more stamina than toughness), but his ability to maintain proper balance has killed his ypc. Maybe it's because he's hurt, maybe he can't work during the week, but after 4 knee surgeries from a personal standpoint when injured the first thing you work on is stability exercises. Him blaming Sellers for not scoring is ridiculous if he could maintain his balance he would have three to four touchdowns by now. He cries too much and this is a fault of the team no one takes ownership and admits mistakes they have made it's always the team needs to get better. When will someone say I need to get better and when I improve the team will improve. Looks like there's a blizzard at Redskins Park and the snowball is getting bigger by the second.
Espeically last game, since they tore up the field with a concert beforehand.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:46 pm
by UK Skins Fan
They can beat the living daylights out of each other on the practice fields, for all I care. As long as they produce at gametime. And if they don't, then bench them both. Each player's success depends on the performance of the other. Quite frankly, I'd tell them both that if Portis doesn't rush for 100 yards this week, they'll both be benched until the bye week.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:36 pm
by Gnome
Last time I checked, Portis has one fewer SB rings than Timmy Smith - in other words, until you win something other than nothing, shut up and let the coaches coach!
Remember when Portis called out Gibbs after a loss in Cleveland saying it was like the Browns knew their plays, and then he called out the O-line last year, and now Sellers - a true blue collar baller!
Portis is out of line - and Zorn has lost control of his team.
We're right back to the surreal world we had during Spurrier - wonder what the two constants are? D and V!
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:51 pm
by VetSkinsFan
UK Skins Fan wrote:They can beat the living daylights out of each other on the practice fields, for all I care. As long as they produce at gametime. And if they don't, then bench them both. Each player's success depends on the performance of the other. Quite frankly, I'd tell them both that if Portis doesn't rush for 100 yards this week, they'll both be benched until the bye week.
There are too many other factors to make it black and white like that.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:01 pm
by jeremyroyce
Ok. Guys, I know I probably will get some heat from this but I have had it with Portis. I think the team needs to move on without him.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:12 pm
by VetSkinsFan
jeremyroyce wrote:Ok. Guys, I know I probably will get some heat from this but I have had it with Portis. I think the team needs to move on without him.
and who's going to pull his weight? no one can at the moment.
done with cp
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:12 pm
by cleg
CP's act has worn thin on me. I have always apprehensively put up with his nonsense but he has the emotional intellegence of a middle school kid - at least publically that we can see.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:14 pm
by DEHog
VetSkinsFan wrote:jeremyroyce wrote:Ok. Guys, I know I probably will get some heat from this but I have had it with Portis. I think the team needs to move on without him.
and who's going to pull his weight? no one can at the moment.
Agreed...lets see what happens this week...when a man get called out he ususally responds...this is a great week for our running game to get going
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:48 pm
by Redskin in Canada
When the OL does not open holes, when the coach calls predictable plays in predictable circumstances in predictable routes, when the FB dos not cover his blocking assignments, when ... our running game will fail.
Surprise, surprise ... players with great intensity are beginning to sound frustrated. I guess it is CP fault.
What a darn joke is your critcism about the player who has been carrying this team's offense for the last few years.
Thanks guys. Gratefulness is appreciated.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:02 pm
by Fios
Redskin in Canada wrote:When the OL does not open holes, when the coach calls predictable plays in predictable circumstances in predictable routes, when the FB dos not cover his blocking assignments, when ... our running game will fail.
Surprise, surprise ... players with great intensity are beginning to sound frustrated. I guess it is CP fault.
What a darn joke is your critcism about the player who has been carrying this team's offense for the last few years.
Thanks guys. Gratefulness is appreciated.
Amen ... for a lot of fans, CP won't be appreciated until he retires. Don't know whatcha you've got, 'till it's gone ...
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:29 pm
by Manchester_Redskin
Heres another report .....
ASHBURN, Va. (AP)—In a week full of Washington Redskins distractions, here’s another one: The starting backfield of Clinton Portis(notes) and Mike Sellers(notes) had a bit of a spat.
Washington Redskins coach Jim Zorn confirmed Friday that running back Portis and fullback Sellers had a verbal confrontation earlier this week.
Zorn downplayed the dispute and said he didn’t know what it was about. But WRC-TV, which first reported the incident, said that Portis and Sellers had a heated exchange, with Portis venting frustration over Sellers’ blocking.
“These guys love each other. This is just how a team goes,” Zorn said. “I thought it was great. There was no fisticuffs, there was no shoving or pushing. … In reality, it’s just a lot of nudging and posturing.”
Last week on a weekly radio appearance, Portis cited a missed assignment by Sellers as contributing to the Redskins’ failure to score on an early fourth-and-goal play in a loss to the Detroit Lions.
Neither Portis nor Sellers was made available to speak to reporters after practice at the end of a week that has been full of off-kilter news for the Redskins. On Tuesday, the front office hired a consultant, Sherman Lewis, to help out the struggling offense. On Thursday, defensive coordinator Greg Blache began an unexplained media boycott.
Zorn compared the running backs’ clash to two friends fussing over a dollar bill.
“These guys are like brothers,” Zorn said. “And they care about each other, so that’s really between them. Seriously, it’s not an issue.”
Asked about Sellers’ run blocking this year, Zorn said: “Well, he’s missed a couple of blocks. I think he’s been great as a run blocker, though.”
Seems to me like its another typical media hype over nothing
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:11 pm
by Hoss
Fios wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:When the OL does not open holes, when the coach calls predictable plays in predictable circumstances in predictable routes, when the FB dos not cover his blocking assignments, when ... our running game will fail.
Surprise, surprise ... players with great intensity are beginning to sound frustrated. I guess it is CP fault.
What a darn joke is your critcism about the player who has been carrying this team's offense for the last few years.
Thanks guys. Gratefulness is appreciated.
Amen ... for a lot of fans, CP won't be appreciated until he retires. Don't know whatcha you've got, 'till it's gone ...
Agreed. Clinton speaks his mind which some people take offense. I would hope that there are players on this team willing to speak the truth and get in people's faces. The only problem here is that it wasn't kept in the locker room. Sometimes a person needs a little kick in the ass every now and then.