Would you have benched Jason Campbell in the Bucs game?

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:38 am

Couple of good discussion topics here…I heard a lot of calls for Collins yesterday...

For those of you that wanted to bench JC, I ask at what point would you have benched him and in doing so is it the end of his Skins career?
Is there any trade value for JC…no big contract to inherit…

Cappster · Post by **Cappster** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:53 am

I would have benched him after his third turnover. Those interceptions he threw weren't balls he should have thrown. He directly led to the Bucs touchdown on the fumble. Looking back at it, it would have been the wrong move to make. I actually like that he went downfield quite a bit yesterday. Maybe, just maybe the shots he took earlier in the game, although he was picked off, helped contribute to the throw he made to Moss later in the game. Practice makes perfect and that ball to Moss was right on the money. I am still holding out hope for Campbell and while he made mistakes yesterday, he did come back and show resiliency.

SKINFAN · Post by **SKINFAN** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:56 am

If we haven't benched him yet, we never will. We might as well let him help us get his replacement (thru the draft). He may have turned it over but at least he's willing to throw it out there and not play safe and play 3 n outs all day.

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:19 am

I have to answer this with how I felt at halftime -- yes, bench him.

That first half was the worst exhibition of pro quarterbacking that I had ever seen.

But you have to give him credit for getting the scores and getting the win.

Just don't ask me tomorrow. I might have changed my mind by then.

Again.

roybus14 · Post by **roybus14** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:29 am

I would not have benched him at the half. I would give him the first series in the third and if he doesn't do anything, then bench him.

But I have to agree what Doc Walker said yesterday on Comcast Post Game. You have to start sitting people down. I would have given Jason a series in the third to get something done and if not, bench him. Them receivers not running their routes, sit them down.

You have to shake things up because of you can't keep rewarding guys for mediocre play or giving you the same bad results week after week.

markshark84 · Post by **markshark84** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:43 am

roybus14 wrote:I would not have benched him at the half. I would give him the first series in the third and if he doesn't do anything, then bench him.

But I have to agree what Doc Walker said yesterday on Comcast Post Game. You have to start sitting people down. I would have given Jason a series in the third to get something done and if not, bench him. Them receivers not running their routes, sit them down.

You have to shake things up because of you can't keep rewarding guys for mediocre play or giving you the same bad results week after week.

I agree in the sense that I would have benched him after the first series in the third quarter. His play was atrocious and his play this season has been subpar.

I personally feel that at this point, there is ZERO chance of JC getting benched. Seriously, that was the worst QBing I have seen in Washington in a while --- and that IS saying something. I think that Zorn not benching JC says alot about JC having to question the teams loyalty to him starting.

He did better in the second half, BUT 16 points against a team whose defense averages over 30 points against per game. Once again, this was a team that grossly underperformed offensively -- win or no win.

I understand that a win is a win, but I enjoy GOOD wins, where the team actually does constructive things to win and not when they just didn't make as many mistakes as the losing team. This game still left a bad taste in my mouth. Something needs to change. Wins like this tend to hurt teams in that a number of football issues are overlooked because of a "W".

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:53 am

I wouldn't have considered it.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:36 am

RedskinsFreak wrote:I have to answer this with how I felt at halftime -- yes, bench him.

That first half was the worst exhibition of pro quarterbacking that I had ever seen.

But you have to give him credit for getting the scores and getting the win.

Just don't ask me tomorrow. I might have changed my mind by then.

Again.

Don't watch Jamarcus Russell - he's terrible. Makes JC look like Dan Marino.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:43 am

No, I would not have done that.

There is no quick fix.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:45 am

I certainly would have benched him at the half. JC is a joke of a qb. 4 turnovers against a team has given up at least 350 yards in every other game that they have played is a joke. The Bucs allowed Dallas to score 34 points, the Bills to score 33, and the Giants beat them 24-0. Yet our offense managed to win by 3 and only put up 16 total points. It's an embarrassment.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:03 am

Yes, I probably would have sat him down. He still takes too long getting the ball out.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:05 am

I wouldn't have benched him. I would have given him two series and then made a determination. Thankfully I think he scored so I would have kept him in the game.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:13 am

I would not have benched him either…Here’s why…Many things to consider, when and if Zorn benches him its over IMO there’s no bringing him back (outside an injury) his career as Redskins is over…Although all signs in the first four games are leading that way it’s still a bit premature. Do we try and get a late round pick for him from someone who may want him?? If he’s plays average do we keep him and draft a future QB and play JC until then?? I’d hate to see a rookie QB behind this line.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:13 am

I was very frustrated at what was happening and thought it might be the right thing to do but I think that Zorn is looking at the best situation for our team and I'm sure that he feels that Campbell gives the team the best chance at success - that is not a good thing but it is what it is :roll:

RayNAustin · Post by **RayNAustin** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:17 am

This is a funny. Yes I would have benched him ... in September 2008. But seriously, yes (SURPRISE).

Maybe after beaning the ref ... that would have been a good time .. if for no other reason than to protect the non-combatants on the field who don't have helmets

What a comedy ... the "How not to play QB in American football" instructional video was made yesterday. Give Campbell 20% royalties for the film, and put him on a tour around the nation visiting every high school, college, and NFL team for an after the film Q&A session, including autographed copies.

Beats selling insurance.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:19 am

I felt bad for that ref b/c you know that hurt. Beamed right in the head.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:20 am

Many things to consider, when and if Zorn benches him its over IMO there’s no bringing him back (outside an injury) his career as Redskins is over

That would be a good thing. JC is awful. No team is going to give us a draft pick for him and we are going to be drafting a qb in next year's draft.

SKINFAN · Post by **SKINFAN** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:29 am

CanesSkins26 wrote:
Many things to consider, when and if Zorn benches him its over IMO there’s no bringing him back (outside an injury) his career as Redskins is over

That would be a good thing. JC is awful. No team is going to give us a draft pick for him and we are going to be drafting a qb in next year's draft.

SO let him play it out, worse he could do is lose games which helps us at the draft next year.

OR he turns it around and becomes the Dragon! and we solve our probs at QB (highly unlikely) but either way we get waht we want.

RayNAustin · Post by **RayNAustin** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:41 am

DEHog wrote:I would not have benched him either…Here’s why…Many things to consider, when and if Zorn benches him its over IMO there’s no bringing him back (outside an injury) his career as Redskins is over…Although all signs in the first four games are leading that way it’s still a bit premature. Do we try and get a late round pick for him from someone who may want him?? If he’s plays average do we keep him and draft a future QB and play JC until then?? I’d hate to see a rookie QB behind this line.

His trade value is ZERO. No one will trade anything for a guy that they know will be released ... secondly ... no one will be willing to pay him the money he will wrongfully expect to get as a free agent.

It seems pretty clear after yesterday that Zorn is going to keep his wagon hitched to Campbell come hell or high water. Consequently, Zorn is gone. Campbell is gone. It's just a question of how much more pepto-bismol the danny has left in that case he had shipped in that will determine if either of them make it until the end of the season.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:20 pm

I've been one of the biggest JC supporters on this website I'm sure, but yeah I would have benched him after that first half.

I don't know why Zorn chose to stick it out, but credit to him for the decision. If you listened to the post game interviews with the players, it sounded like it meant a lot to some of those guys that they rallied behind JC to get the win. Portis and Moss both talked about not letting Campbell fail and pushing him to not give up when he was having a bad game.

Who knows. Maybe its something to build on.

northcarolinaredskin · Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:03 pm

To all of Jason Campbell's haters out there. I do not think that you guys understand the type of leader that Jason Campbell is. He runs the team and was questioned as being able to lead it to wins. To this point in the season including the three picks against the bucaneers he played a great game against them. Led a comeback charge in the 3rd and gave us the victory. He is a very good quarterback and it would be stupid to let him go because he has an amazing impact for our team.

MEZZSKIN · Post by **MEZZSKIN** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:22 pm

northcarolinaredskin wrote:To all of Jason Campbell's haters out there. I do not think that you guys understand the type of leader that Jason Campbell is. He runs the team and was questioned as being able to lead it to wins. To this point in the season including the three picks against the bucaneers he played a great game against them. Led a comeback charge in the 3rd and gave us the victory. He is a very good quarterback and it would be stupid to let him go because he has an amazing impact for our team.

WOW....The water is NC seems to be were its at right now
I'll take whatver hes drinking and make mine a double!!!

Bob 0119 · Post by **Bob 0119** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:03 pm

I've been one of Jason Campbell's biggest defenders, and even I thought he should have been benched yesterday.

He was having a rough day, and it didn't look like it was going to improve. I was calling for Collins before halftime.

I'm glad he pulled it out in the second half, but yesterday was definately not one of his better performances.

markshark84 · Post by **markshark84** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:06 pm

northcarolinaredskin wrote:To all of Jason Campbell's haters out there. I do not think that you guys understand the type of leader that Jason Campbell is. He runs the team and was questioned as being able to lead it to wins. To this point in the season including the three picks against the bucaneers he played a great game against them. Led a comeback charge in the 3rd and gave us the victory. He is a very good quarterback and it would be stupid to let him go because he has an amazing impact for our team.

Jason, is that you?

Every single posts this poster has made all say how great JC is.

And I have to check my vocabulary but I don't think "amazing impact" means that he doesn't put up points --- well he does for the other teams. Every single point the Bucs scored yesterday were OFF JC TURNOVERS!!!! Well, I guess that could be an "amazing impact", it just depends on how you see it, I guess.

Well, he could be a fan of another NFC east team....

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:09 pm

northcarolinaredskin wrote:He is a very good quarterback and it would be stupid to let him go because he has an amazing impact for our team.

Man I am a Jason Campbell fan and really wanted to see him get an opportunity to prove his critics wrong this season. I think he deserves the chance to prove that he can be a solid QB. And personally I hate to see a first round pick wasted.

So far this season though, I think its pretty hard to argue that he has been a "good" QB. He's been average at best, and that first half Sunday was as bad as he has ever played.

If this is as good as it gets with Campbell, we would be stupid not to start looking for a new QB next season.

I'm still hoping Campbell turns it around and shuts everybody up. He seems like a good guy, and I think even the so-called "haters" would be cheering for him.

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