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Now that we are several days into free agency and some of Joe`s significant moves have already been made, I`m wondering what other Redskins fans would think of as success for Joe`s first season back. Obviously, we`d like to go and win the whole Show but being realistic.and allowing for Joe, the coaching staff and the new players to settle in and gell I`d be really happy with a play-off place this year. Perhaps even just a winning season. What do you think? Are you looking higher?

For me it's not about winning right now. I want to see discipline and accountability!! You have those two things and winning will follow.

I agree with DEHog, our team last season lacked so much discipline and consistancy, Gibbs will show them the way though. I would be happy with just an improvement, a winning record would be nice to see.

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Coaching is everything, they will play more disciplined and with heart. That will translate in to more wins. Gibbs and company will put them in position to win.

The only success I think they need is to start believing in themselves. I know it sounds corny, but I just want to see them play like they know they can win a game, instead of playing like they're trying to keep from losing. That was an attitude put in since the Norv Turner days, and Gibbs will change that.

Success for me is defined in one word, stability. The one thing that our beloved burgundy and gold has suffered from since Gibbs' departure is a lack of stabilty. Changes in management, changes in coaching staff, and changes in personnel. I realize that the NFL of coach Gibbs' past is a vastly different one from the one that he enters now, but if he can establish stability and consistency, the wins will come.

As much as it stings to hear Champ say that there is a lack of structure and organization during his tenure here, he is right. When you think about it, I believe that Jon Jansen is one of the longest tenured players now, and I believe that he has been around about 5 years. That says it all.

johnjack wrote:As much as it stings to hear Champ say that there is a lack of structure and organization during his tenure here, he is right. When you think about it, I believe that Jon Jansen is one of the longest tenured players now, and I believe that he has been around about 5 years. That says it all.

Totally agree. Schotty was able to establish that type of control when he was here for the one year and the team went 8-8. If Gibbs can do the same he should at least match that.

Also David Terrell is the other Skins vet being with the team since 1999.

fezzik wrote: Totally agree. Schotty was able to establish that type of control when he was here for the one year and the team went 8-8. If Gibbs can do the same he should at least match that.

Personally I was disappointed when Schotty was booted out to make way for SS, and especially with the benefit of hindsight!. Schotty was (is) a proven coach and was turning the team around, having also had a 0-5 start to finish 8-8 (ring any bells?).
I would hate to see us with a losing record this season, given what we have on board now. If we only finish 8-8 or even less, hey, it is a stepping stone to greater things. Privately I am expecting a winning season, and if that is good enough for the playoffs, then that would be fantastic. Lets face it, we CAN'T be worse than 12-20 over the last two years!

Britskin wrote:I`d be really happy with a play-off place this year. Perhaps even just a winning season.

Then, DEHog wrote:I want to see discipline and accountability!!

Cjpck44 chimed in and wrote:I think they need is to start believing in themselves.

Finally, johnjack wrote:Success for me is defined in one word, stability.

First of all, Britskin, welcome to Hogs.net. You're gonna love it here.
Now, these are all nice answers, and I concur with each and every one of 'em. Of course, we need to remember who our owner is, and how he measures success. Right now, he's in his shining moment, his day in the sun. He has Gibbs back, the fans are loving Danny, he's got some pieces to the puzzle. The big thing here is, just beat Dallas. It's Washington, and we've come to hold our team to another standard. The bar was automatically raised when Joe came back, wasn't it ? Aren't we really expecting to do really well this year, only we don't want to say it loud, for fear of jinxing it ?
I know who we're playing this year. That's been posted already; it's the order in which we play them that's still undetermined. It isn't going to be a cakewalk for us, to be sure.
If nothing else, here's what you can absolutely expect. If we trail at halftime, in any game, we won't lose by making the same mistakes we made in the first half. Joe is just the master of the halftime adjustment. All he really needs is for the boys on the field to do their jobs, (no freelancing) and the rest will take care of itself.
No more lame-ass bbq's at the Spurrier residence to "jell" and listen to Wuerfful read his favorite scriptures. It takes a whole lot more than that.It takes confidence in one another to build up a chemistry, and I think that's why Joe wants "character guys". He wants people who know that they need to be where they're supposed to be so that everybody else can stick to what they're supposed to be doing.
If he can pull that off, the sky's the limit for this team.
Keep your fingers crossed.

my take on joe gibbs success for the upcoming season will be focused toward getting the players to buy into his system. sell everyone on what he wants them to do as a team to be sucessful as a team and the rest will take care of itself.
being head strong is the most important thing.everybody will be involved. a winning record is in store with possible playoff implications. i,m ready!

One way to gauge the success of this team, will be to see if any of the following improve from last year. If they do, then there's no telling what we can accomplish. It'll take time, but if we improve on all of the following, the wins will come sooner or later

Stupid false start penalties

Audibles with less than 5 seconds on the clock

Miscommunication between the huddle and the sideline

People laughing and joking in the locker room AFTER A LOSS!

Field Position

Crowd noise

How many times we're faced with a 2nd and 16 or 3rd an 18.

The whole team playing from start to finish, giving everything they have.

Our coach working and studying diligently to prepare for a game, instead of planning his next golfing outing after the season ends.

The players sounding optimistic about the future

Opposing teams commending the Redskins on their performance

Yes JP all of that will change, it will be worth the price of admission just to watch the all knuckleheads who put themselves above the team, either fall in line or fall to the wayside.

I agree with all of the above so I won't bother repeating it!

We weren't far off being a decent side last year despite all the coaching issues so it shouldn't take too much to get an even record.

With the changes we have made I would hope for a winning record and a shot at the playoffs beyond week 12! I hope for 9 or 10 wins. If we achieve that, we can all say "I told you so" to our resident Jet! You know he'll say it to us if we don't improve.