Vince Young wants out?

Champsturf · Post by **Champsturf** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:11 pm

Are you freaking kidding me? What a sissy! He's fragile and can't handle being booed? I don't seem to remember Brunell whining about it. I also don't think Young has as much pressure as Campbell. I'm a Buckeye fan too and have thought he was overrated during and after the Texas/Ohio State game.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:18 pm

Wow, the booing's not going to get any better now that this has come out. Sounds like he needs some anti-depressants.

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:48 pm

You mean he wants out again. He's been whining and crying for two years now.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:56 pm

Vince: way to go, bonehead... yeah, that'll shut up the boo birds.

:roll:

Thundersloth · Post by **Thundersloth** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:10 pm

Now his mom has gone public

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art ... /809100426

I think you have be thick skinned if you're a QB. You have to take all the good that comes with the position and you have to learn to cope with the bad that comes with the position. I hope he works out all his issues.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:16 pm

Thundersloth wrote:Now his mom has gone public

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art ... /809100426

That was the what the story Champsturf's link originally pointed to was about.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:38 pm

I think that Young shows all the signs of someone battling serious depression. I hope he's getting help. This isn't just about football, it's about his life. I think he should get some treatment and then figure out his future.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:41 pm

There's got to be more to it than the boos. He wanted out a while ago. Not everything in his life revolves around being a quarterback, obviously.

Like KSF said, if he is battling any type of mental illness, I hope he gets help and soon. I wish him the best.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:50 pm

There is definitely something a lot deeper here. He left his house without his cell phone on Monday night, and that set off a panic cycle with his family that ended with Young agreeing to meet his coach and the police at team facilities. That doesn't happen to people who are fine except for a bad ego or something. So there is a lot more to this story than a crybaby quarterback.

OK, so he's rich. That really doesn't make some of life's problems any easier to deal with. . .

ChocolateMilk · Post by **ChocolateMilk** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:19 am

dudes got problems, simply put.. he needs some kind of help. i mean its not like he doesnt have the money to get the help

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:04 am

If he needs help he needs to take a leave of absence.

If he's going nuts because he's an overrated bum then he needs to man up and stop sucking.

Regardless of it all, he needs to get his mother out of the papers.

Bob 0119 · Post by **Bob 0119** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:35 am

He should quietly take a leave of absence and get better. This sounds far worse than just not wanting to play football...it sounds suicidal.

Scary stuff.

El Mexican · Post by **El Mexican** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:35 pm

Nice column here on the subject by Jason Whitlock.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8550254?MSNHPHMA

RayNAustin · Post by **RayNAustin** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:31 pm

ChocolateMilk wrote:dudes got problems, simply put.. he needs some kind of help. i mean its not like he doesnt have the money to get the help

Maybe that's part of the problem? I bet you if he had to give every penny back, and get a real job for $10 / hr, playing football in the NFL might suddenly become less burdensome?

I've got to believe it's a major psychological letdown that's getting to him. He was idolized here in Austin, and Texas in general. Such high expectations of success in the NFL for those early 1st rounders is a recipe for this very thing.

The reality is, success in college has very little to do with success in the NFL, especially when you are talking about a running QB. Rarely do they become the stars they were in college. You just can't make a living running in the NFL. Ask Vick.

I imagine it's psychologically tough to go from National Championship hero, to NFL rookie of the year to mediocre NFL punching bag.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:24 pm

RayNAustin wrote:
ChocolateMilk wrote:dudes got problems, simply put.. he needs some kind of help. i mean its not like he doesnt have the money to get the help

Maybe that's part of the problem? I bet you if he had to give every penny back, and get a real job for $10 / hr, playing football in the NFL might suddenly become less burdensome?

I've got to believe it's a major psychological letdown that's getting to him. He was idolized here in Austin, and Texas in general. Such high expectations of success in the NFL for those early 1st rounders is a recipe for this very thing.

The reality is, success in college has very little to do with success in the NFL, especially when you are talking about a running QB. Rarely do they become the stars they were in college. You just can't make a living running in the NFL. Ask Vick.

I imagine it's psychologically tough to go from National Championship hero, to NFL rookie of the year to mediocre NFL punching bag.

Vick made a pretty good living until he threw it all away on dog fighting. I suppose you mean that he was never going to take his team very far, but some running QBs, like say Steve Young, are in the HOF, so it's not like it can't be done.

Thundersloth · Post by **Thundersloth** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:14 pm

JSPB22 wrote:
Thundersloth wrote:Now his mom has gone public

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art ... /809100426

That was the what the story Champsturf's link originally pointed to was about.

Sorry about the repeat. Anyway it now sounds like Vince is trying to say he isn't depressed. But there has to be something more to it if the team is sending out psychologists to talk to him.

"I was never depressed," Young said.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/ ... -Young.php

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:09 am

Thundersloth wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:
Thundersloth wrote:Now his mom has gone public

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art ... /809100426

That was the what the story Champsturf's link originally pointed to was about.

Sorry about the repeat. Anyway it now sounds like Vince is trying to say he isn't depressed. But there has to be something more to it if the team is sending out psychologists to talk to him.

"I was never depressed," Young said.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/ ... -Young.php

I wasn't critcizing your post. Sorry if it came across that way. I was pointing out that when I clicked on CT's link, before my original response, it referenced the Tennessean article about his mom's plea to the fans to stop booing him. I also picked up right off that his behavior showed signs of clinical depression. That's why I said this:

JSPB22 wrote:Wow, the booing's not going to get any better now that this has come out. Sounds like he needs some anti-depressants.

in post number two of this thread. But when you posted the Tennessean article, I clicked on CT's link again, and it was a different story.

Thundersloth · Post by **Thundersloth** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:02 pm

No prob JSPB22. I thought my link had more about Momma Young.

I wonder what the real story is here. Fisher says there was talk of suicide, people concerned, unloaded gun in the car. Or is there really nothing to this story since Fisher says it was a misunderstanding. HMMMMMMMMMMM.