Lavar Update

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:36 pm

LaVar's Latest

Well, spent some time on the phone with LaVar's agent, Kevin Poston, yesterday and he said that while it is possible that at some point this offseason the former face of the Redskins might decide to hang up the cleats, he hasn't done so yet. Poston says that LaVar is still in rehab and is working as if he is going to return, but admits that the future can be murky in a situation such as this.

Poston said Arrington will likely not be healthy enough to participate fully on the field until July or August, which is obviously pretty late in the game. Not that there wouldn't be some team willing to take a flyer at that point, or maybe even more than one, but I have a feeling it will be a very interesting summer for LaVar.

"I'm not saying that he's definitely not going to retire," Poston said, "but that's not something I have heard from LaVar. I am pretty close to him and we talk all the time, and he has not expressed that to me. For now he is rehabbing like he is going to be playing football, and we'll see how everything goes the next few months"

Arrington has essentially been injured since 20004 - he last played anything close to a full season in 2003 - but Poston said he is walking around and jogging now after blowing out his Achilles last season.

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Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:22 pm

As close as an agent can get to say "until the bit overweight lady performs" is not over even if she already left the dressing room on her way to the stage. :lol:

redskingush · Post by **redskingush** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:11 pm

I hope he gets back, He will always be one of my Favs.

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Wed May 02, 2007 1:23 am

I am still hoping and praying he will somehow make it back to our team. If not I just hope he makes it to a team healthy.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Wed May 02, 2007 4:12 pm

HEROHAMO wrote:I am still hoping and praying he will somehow make it back to our team.

Good thinking, so we can draft high again next year and take a defensive lineman this time?

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Wed May 02, 2007 6:19 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:I am still hoping and praying he will somehow make it back to our team.

Good thinking, so we can draft high again next year and take a defensive lineman this time?

Lavar can pressure on the Qb.

If his only assignment was to go after the Qb and occasionally cover the flats then everything would be fine.

HailSkins2007 · Post by **HailSkins2007** » Wed May 02, 2007 8:51 pm

I cannot agree with anyone. Do you remember what he did ? He blamed the Skins for ripping him off and went public about it. And it was his agent who messed up. Then he goes on ESPN and talks smack about the Skins again. I did like him but know more.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:04 am

HEROHAMO wrote:
Lavar can pressure on the Qb.

If his only assignment was to go after the Qb and occasionally cover the flats then everything would be fine.

Oh please. I know you love the guy, but you have to face reality.

He had one season of 11 sacks, which was nearly half his career total of 23.5.

The other full (14+ games played) seasons? 6 sacks, 4 sacks, .5 sack, 0 sacks. Which means he averaged a nice 2.5 sacks per season those years.

That tends to show that 2002 was an aberration more than anything. It's like saying Brady Anderson was a huge home run hitter because he hit 50 one year...

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:14 am

PulpExposure wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:
Lavar can pressure on the Qb.

If his only assignment was to go after the Qb and occasionally cover the flats then everything would be fine.

Oh please. I know you love the guy, but you have to face reality.

He had one season of 11 sacks, which was nearly half his career total of 23.5.

The other full (14+ games played) seasons? 6 sacks, 4 sacks, .5 sack, 0 sacks. Which means he averaged a nice 2.5 sacks per season those years.

That tends to show that 2002 was an aberration more than anything. It's like saying Brady Anderson was a huge home run hitter because he hit 50 one year...

That year he got most of his sacks out of a three point stance. coming up on what may be the end of his career we find out he was "out of position" :shock:

all these years and it wasn't his fault.

everydayAskinsday · Post by **everydayAskinsday** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:26 am

I dont know that LaVar could come back.. he burned some bridges when he left here.. not only with fans but also with the FO and players.. and his ego is much to big to come back and play a role here other than THE star defensive player..he was the face of the team for a couple years.. I dont see him coming here to be a bit part

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:45 am

Lavar is damaged goods and a bridge burner. He should just focus on making Eastern Motors commercials and making appearances at the ESPYs.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:08 am

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Lavar is damaged goods and a bridge burner.

I totally agree with you.

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Thu May 03, 2007 12:06 pm

HailSkins2007 wrote:I cannot agree with anyone. Do you remember what he did ? He blamed the Skins for ripping him off and went public about it. And it was his agent who messed up. Then he goes on ESPN and talks smack about the Skins again. I did like him but know more.

I concur. I liked Lavar when he was here but that brutha definitely burnt his bridges as far as I'm concerned. If he never gets back into football, I certainly won't lose any sleep.

LOSTHOG · Post by **LOSTHOG** » Thu May 03, 2007 2:14 pm

The more love the uglier the breakup. most of everything said was out of hurt. i still don't think he will be back, but i would forgive and forget if he did

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Thu May 03, 2007 3:12 pm

LOSTHOG wrote:The more love the uglier the breakup. most of everything said was out of hurt. i still don't think he will be back, but i would forgive and forget if he did

I think what he said was out of pure immaturity and stupidity. Hey LaVar, you just got a $60 million deal, are you going to Disney World? No, I want a $5 mil bonus, the owner lied, the team cheated me, and I'm going to keep saying that for 2 years until they're sick of my shinola and dump me. People thinking Snyder would sign him after that are dreaming. And he shouldn't.

Try going around telling the press your company cheated you and see how long you last. And as a fan I was offended that after our tying up that much cap in the guy he assured me that $5 mil was stolen from him wouldn't affect his play. Not what I wanted to hear, I wanted to hear the $60 mil would.

As Redeemed said, LAVAR torched the bridge. It's not forgive and forget, it's he made a choice to torch us and we're stupid if we allow him back. I wish nothing bad on the guy, just to stay away.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Thu May 03, 2007 3:23 pm

so, i ask you this question....

does lavar arrington qualify as a bust? 2nd overall pick. highly regarded, and was supposed to be the second coming of lawrence taylor. his biggest play came in '02 vs the panthers with an int return. superfreak of nature, with the IQ of a rasin. has had an average career, so..... bust or no?

i would have to say yes, although nailing aikman was worth a 2nd overall pick alone.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Thu May 03, 2007 3:25 pm

hailskins666 wrote:so, i ask you this question....

does lavar arrington qualify as a bust? 2nd overall pick. highly regarded, and was supposed to be the second coming of lawrence taylor. his biggest play came in '02 vs the panthers with an int return. superfreak of nature, with the IQ of a rasin. has had an average career, so..... bust or no?

I agree with this on all counts. I would say "bust" since busts are always judged based on the hype that they have surrounding them. No one calls a 4th rounder who's out of the league in 3 years a bust, but if you're good enough to be selected in the top 10 of the draft, there are some heavy expectations that are placed on you.

I'm not saying that it's far, but that's simply how draft busts are judged. I guess it comes with those multi-million dollar contracts based on your hype. And Lavar = a bust.

i would have to say yes, although nailing aikman was worth a 2nd overall pick alone.

Couldn't agree more. :rock:

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Thu May 03, 2007 3:36 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:so, i ask you this question....

does lavar arrington qualify as a bust? 2nd overall pick. highly regarded, and was supposed to be the second coming of lawrence taylor. his biggest play came in '02 vs the panthers with an int return. superfreak of nature, with the IQ of a rasin. has had an average career, so..... bust or no?

I agree with this on all counts. I would say "bust" since busts are always judged based on the hype that they have surrounding them. No one calls a 4th rounder who's out of the league in 3 years a bust, but if you're good enough to be selected in the top 10 of the draft, there are some heavy expectations that are placed on you.

I'm not saying that it's far, but that's simply how draft busts are judged. I guess it comes with those multi-million dollar contracts based on your hype. And Lavar = a bust.

i would have to say yes, although nailing aikman was worth a 2nd overall pick alone.

Couldn't agree more.

Agreed, I'm too lazy to dig up my post but in a thread a while back, I went back and looked at his stats relative to other linebackers at the time. Frankly, aside from his 11 sack season, nothing stands out. LA's potential for and occasional deliverance of a highlight reel hit (a la Aikman) has caused people to overestimate (badly in some cases) his value as a player.

P.S. I keep telling this story but I was at that Panthers game, I ran with him from the 55 on because so many people had left in my section

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:30 am

No matter what u guys say. I still support Lavar as a player. If he could come back under the Vet minimum. Why not give him a chance to redeem himself and ignite his career where it started?

Unlikely to happen but, If he somehow becomes healthy enough I would love to have him back.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Fri May 04, 2007 9:05 am

HEROHAMO wrote:No matter what u guys say. I still support Lavar as a player. If he could come back under the Vet minimum. Why not give him a chance to redeem himself and ignite his career where it started?

Unlikely to happen but, If he somehow becomes healthy enough I would love to have him back.

If Lavar were to come back we'd have to release one of the LBs currently on our roster. Honestly, I think all of the LB's on our roster have more upside than Lavar currently does -- given his age, his knees, and his work ethic. And at least our backups will play special teams.

It would be a gamble. (And besides, I don't think there's a universe in which Lavar comes back for the vet minimum. He'd retire before he did that).

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Fri May 04, 2007 10:57 am

hailskins666 wrote:so, i ask you this question....

does lavar arrington qualify as a bust?

Bust.

Big bust.

Enormous bust.

Bigger bust than Dolly Parton!

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sat May 05, 2007 12:47 pm

He's not a big bust, he was a pro bowler and leader of the defense. He is kind of a bust though because he didn't have a long term impact.

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Mon May 07, 2007 3:03 am

PulpExposure wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:
Lavar can pressure on the Qb.

If his only assignment was to go after the Qb and occasionally cover the flats then everything would be fine.

Oh please. I know you love the guy, but you have to face reality.

He had one season of 11 sacks, which was nearly half his career total of 23.5.

The other full (14+ games played) seasons? 6 sacks, 4 sacks, .5 sack, 0 sacks. Which means he averaged a nice 2.5 sacks per season those years.

That tends to show that 2002 was an aberration more than anything. It's like saying Brady Anderson was a huge home run hitter because he hit 50 one year...

Okay well I know you hate the guy.

His one season in which he had 11 sacks was due to a defensive coach who actually knew what he was doing and utilized Lavars talents.

Lavar has not fufilled his full potential as a player in the NFL. I realize that.

I am one who would like to see him get a second chance to revive his career. He is rehabbing hard at this time and in a few months he is going to be healthy.

Like I said before. If he is healthy and decides he wants to play. I know he could be a valuable asset to some team out there. I just hope it is ours.

Other than that I am happy with the current state of our team. I just think it would be nice to see an original Redskin come home once again.

That would be a very nice story to tell future little skins fans.

Lavar Arrington lost son returns home to lead the Redskins Championship defense nicknamed "Red Rage"! Hail to the Redskins!! Hoorah!

welch · Post by **welch** » Mon May 07, 2007 7:54 am

does lavar arrington qualify as a bust? 2nd overall pick. highly regarded, and was supposed to be the second coming of lawrence taylor.

Bust. Lemar Marshall has been more effective for more seasons. Antonio Pierce (yes, different position) has been far more effective.

Yet another example of first-round bloops. Maybe over-publicized -- who else could be "the face of the Redskins" back then?

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Mon May 07, 2007 10:29 am

HEROHAMO wrote:[Okay well I know you hate the guy

I hardly hate the guy, herohamo. I desperately wished he had lived up to both his talent and the amount of money he earned over the years. I thought we were getting a hall of fame type player, and whole heartedly supported him as a Redskin. It didn't work out that way, and I acknowledge that. I have open eyes.