Unofficial 40 times - LB

[BossHog]

Antwan Barnes :: 4.40,
Jon Beason :: 4.64, 4.85
Quincy Black :: 4.42
Stewart Bradley :: 4.69, 4.73
Prescott Burgess :: 4.90, 4.85
Quenton Culberson :: 4.77, 4.81
Buster Davis :: 4.67, 4.71
Zak Deossie :: 4.53, 4.56
Justin Durant :: 4.51, 4.60
Earl Everett :: 4.88, DNR
KaMichael Hall :: 4.79, 4.79
David Harris :: 4.53, 4.57
Chad Nkang :: 4.51, 4.55
Michael Okwo :: 4.69, 4.77
Sam Olajubutu :: 4.64, 4.67
Blair Phillips :: 4.82, 4.87
Paul Posluszny :: 4.68, 4.67
Dallas Sartz :: 4.70, 4.75
Tim Shaw :: 4.49, 4.43
Kelvin Smith :: 4.83, NA
Lawrence Timmons :: 4.59, 4.67
Patrick Willis :: 4.49, 4.53

I really, really, really like Posluszny.

[Chris Luva Luva]

I really, really, really like Posluszny.

Why? Do you think we'll be able to get him?

[brad7686]

I really, really, really like Posluszny.

Why? Do you think we'll be able to get him?

I don't like him as an inside backer and he's a little slow to play outside. He's too small to play inside and doesn't have the athleticism to make up for it.

[BossHog]

I really, really, really like Posluszny.

Why? Do you think we'll be able to get him?

I can't like a player without thinking he's going to be a Redskin?

I think paul is the best linebacker in the draft, but others don't rank him quite as high. It's too early to have any idea where uys are going to get drafted in my opinion... maybe when there have been some free agent moves, it'll be a little more fruitful to even think about how the draft's going to shake out. (too many variables after the top 5 picks until FA plays out a little IMO)

I just think he's a great football player, and he reminds me a lot of Urlacher coming out of college. He has done well today too... 4.6's in the forty, looked good in the drills... very explosive and compact... he comes from a big program... played inside and out... won the Bednarik as a junior... what's not to love about the kid?



If the Redskins moved down into the middle of the first round, then I'd love to see them look at Posluszny, but personally I'd like to see the Redskins step down ONE or TWO or THREE spots and pick up another pick, and still get the best d-lineman available... whether it's Adams, Anderson, or Branch. like I said in another post, I think Quinn being available and either the Dolphins or the Vikings making an offer would be a great scenario.

But I wouldn't take Posluszny that high...

If the draft was tomorrow, i'd say that Russell would go to the Raiders, Thomas to the lions, Adrian Peterson to the Browns, and then Calvin Johnson to the Buccaneers.
then it's the Cards.. so anything could happen. But right now i'd say Adams might have the numer 5 slot... i don't see them taking Quinn regardless, so that would make him available when we pick with both Branch and Anderson available. So if the Vikes or the Dolphins wanted to get Quinn (preferably the Vikes as we'd drop one pick), then it'd be dreamy IMO.

... which has nothing to do with Poslusny, sorry.

[Chris Luva Luva]

... which has nothing to do with Poslusny, sorry.

Naw, I enjoyed the read regardless.

[PulpExposure]

I just think he's a great football player, and he reminds me a lot of Urlacher coming out of college. He has done well today too... 4.6's in the forty,

Usually I agree with your thoughts, but I disagree here. He's closer to 4.7 than 4.6, and if you look at your list, he's towards slower of the linebackers. Defensive Ends like Gaines ran a faster 40 than Posluszny did. Hell, did you see the 4.4 linebackers on that list? (yikes, that's fast).

And he's not like Urlacher coming out of college. Urlacher ran the 40 a full second faster than that at the Combine. And is bigger than Pozluszny.

Posluszny, aside from having a nearly impossible name to spell, has fantastic instincts, and a nose for the game. I think he'll be a warrior. But I just don't think he's fast enough to be a 3 down LB in the NFL. And I'm not sure he's really big enough to be a 2 down dominant force like Trotter once was. Paul is more of an old-school linebacker imho, and I'm not sure there's much of a place for them in todays game. I'm not sure he's fast enough to play on the outside, and he's not big enough to blast the inside. In a way, to me, he's almost a tweener LB...

[BossHog]

Usually I agree with your thoughts, but I disagree here. He's closer to 4.7 than 4.6, and if you look at your list, he's towards slower of the linebackers. Defensive Ends like Gaines ran a faster 40 than Posluszny did. Hell, did you see the 4.4 linebackers on that list? (yikes, that's fast).

And he's not like Urlacher coming out of college. Urlacher ran the 40 a full second faster than that at the Combine. And is bigger than Pozluszny.

Huh, Brian urlacher ran a 3.6? Wow, that's greased lightning. i believe Urlacher ran a 4.57 officially... so I presume you mean that he ran a tenth of a second faster... and I really didn't mean to imply that Posluszny's time had impressed me. I just didn't want to type so much.

I guess it wuld have been better to clarify that my comparisons between Urlacher and Posluszny are strictly in regards to football smarts, toughness, explosiveness, and leadership. Urlacher was definitely a little quicker, but we're also now comparing him to what is I think the best in the game at his position. I just said he reminds me of him, not that he was the next Urlacher.

I don't see him having trouble adapting to the NFL game personally. I think guys that are that good a football player find ways and places to contribute. I don't see him being a Redskin, but I do see him being a good NFL linebacker one day.

[Houligan26]

David Harris will be the steal of the draft at this position. Real smart, fast, a little undersized but a sure tackler.

[PulpExposure]

so I presume you mean that he ran a tenth of a second faster... and I really didn't mean to imply that Posluszny's time had impressed me. I just didn't want to type so much.

That makes two in this thread!

I just said he reminds me of him, not that he was the next Urlacher.

I think he reminds me a lot of Mike Singletary...in that whole "football smart" kind of way. Not great measurables, but gets the job done.

I don't see him having trouble adapting to the NFL game personally. I think guys that are that good a football player find ways and places to contribute.

Absolutely. I think he'll be a good football player (in the right system...if a cover-2 defense drafted him, he'd have a very hard time of it). But he really needs to be in the right system.

Actually, he reminds me a lot of EJ Henderson from Maryland. If EJ had played on better teams, I think he would have been a first instead of a second also (well that, and the knee injury...).

[frankcal20]

I like him as well. I think that if we do trade down and somehow get two 1st rounders he could be there for us to get with our 2nd pick.

[andyjens89]

Posluzny was wayyyyyyy better last year than this year, but everyone still loved him this year when he hid the whole time he was on the field. My opinion: OVERRATED

[frankcal20]

Maybe you saw that he is playing out of position. Taking one for the team?

[HEROHAMO]

Pozlusny in the middle would be awsome. I imagine if we trade down and aquire a second round pick we may pick him up. I also like Patrick Willis though. Pozlusny would be able to play middle where we need help.

[fredp45]

The only downside to Paul P is that knee injury he had late in his junior year. That would make me nervous.

I also like him, I really liked him before that serious knee injury.

If we trade down to 21 I still want a DL -- we have solid backers now, we need DL very badly.

[SeanTaylorJr.]

You guys are far too caught up in the numbers. For one, Paul Posluzny dominated against the highest level of competition as a linebacker, arguably the best in the nation at what he does. He is a football player, who gives a crap if he runs a millisecond too slow or something. I also think that the Urlacher comparison is based mostly on the fact that he is white. & consider the fact that he did what he did this year and at the combine after a huge knee surgery and rehab process, cut him some slack, a hard worker like him deserves it.

[RagingRigginz]

Hey guys just wanted to update you on one of the LB's. I go here to elon and just went to Chad's pro day. Chad Nkang a guy that the Redskin had been looking at just had his pro day. He ran a poor 40 at the combine and re ran it here. Unoffiically he ran a 4.41 and a 4.42. A big improvement. He's 6'0, 220, 4.41 40, 23 reps in the BP. Still way small for a MLB, buut will probalby play S. Here's to hoping we pick him up. Great character guy, I really hope we pick him up. The Panthers were the only team that I saw there, but there could have been others. After the combine they were projecting him somewhere between rounds 5-7. I don't know how his pro day will affect that status, but who knows.

and (please draft Chad)

[admin]

You guys are far too caught up in the numbers. For one, Paul Posluzny dominated against the highest level of competition as a linebacker, arguably the best in the nation at what he does. He is a football player, who gives a **** if he runs a millisecond too slow or something.

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Thanks.

I also think that the Urlacher comparison is based mostly on the fact that he is white

Huh??

I explained the comparison. I personally wouldn't care if he was purple. If you want to live your life looking for black and white stigmatisms... you go right ahead... but please don't try and speak for me.... especially when you're going to be so far off base.

[SeanTaylorJr.]

I apologize for my violation of the policy, I wasn't aware of it, and I promise it won't happen again. I simply was enraged at the moment by the obsession that football fans with the entire combine process. I acknowledge it does indeed have a lot of value, but we are taking a bit too far when people think there is a significant difference between a 4.46 and a 4.53 and make all these bold statements like "he isn't quite fast enough to succeed at Lb" for example, these are nearly always erroneous and take us away from the football, which is what we care about.

As for Urlacher, I didn't realize when say "I think..." that I am try to speak FOR someone, notice it is not an outright, objective statement, "I think" usually that means someone is trying to express their opinion, which I did. Which was by the way, simply that if Posluzny was African American, you wouldn't have drawn that comparison, because "I THINK" (my opinion) that I didn't get the same Urlacher feel you did from Posluzny, but you were expressing your ideas which I applaud and appreciate.