The Oline...has it ever been worse?

skinsfanno9 · Post by **skinsfanno9** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:44 pm

I honestly can't remember seeing our line this bad. They truly suck...hard.

Hopefully its just that they don't know the schemes and are confused but wow...

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:45 pm

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:47 pm

Exactly, sure Brunell had a terrible game, but he has his O-Linemen to thank for that.

I mean, I honestly think Chris Samuels was afraid to block DeMarcus Ware tonight.

Our O-Line has some talent, but what they need is a mean streak, or else they are just going to get pushed around all season.

skinsfanno9 · Post by **skinsfanno9** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:48 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:Yes.

Six sacks, far more hurries, no holes for the running backs, etc. They truly suck.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:48 pm

skinsfanno9 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:Yes.

Six sacks, far more hurries, no holes for the running backs, etc. They truly suck.

How does thsi contradict what I said? :hmm:

skinsfanno9 · Post by **skinsfanno9** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:50 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
skinsfanno9 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:Yes.

Six sacks, far more hurries, no holes for the running backs, etc. They truly suck.

How does thsi contradict what I said?

I suppose it doesn't, it just backs up what I said. When did we look worse?

tjaddison · Post by **tjaddison** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:51 pm

look, don't blame the oline for our performance tonight. the cowgirls' secondary caused brunell to hold the ball too long. an OL has a well defined number of seconds to pass block his man. its the qb who as to get the ball out.

check it, this offense is NEW. despite all the big name players and coaches. it's going to take time. listen to gibbs he's not worried one bit. he know's they're just getting started.

everyone just breathe, relax and let this new offense develop.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:52 pm

skinsfanno9 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
skinsfanno9 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:Yes.

Six sacks, far more hurries, no holes for the running backs, etc. They truly suck.

How does thsi contradict what I said?

I suppose it doesn't, it just backs up what I said. When did we look worse?

Don't make me think through the last 10 years of Dallas games, now. . .my night is bad enough

It has looked worse and it will look worse in the future. That's just the way of things.

skinsfanno9 · Post by **skinsfanno9** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:53 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
skinsfanno9 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
skinsfanno9 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:Yes.

Six sacks, far more hurries, no holes for the running backs, etc. They truly suck.

How does thsi contradict what I said?

I suppose it doesn't, it just backs up what I said. When did we look worse?

Don't make me think through the last 10 years of Dallas games, now. . .my night is bad enough

It has looked worse and it will look worse in the future. That's just the way of things.

Well in fairness I've only been watching the skins since 1976, but in that time I don't think our Oline has been worse than this. As bad? Sure, a few times, but not worse. Really, it would be very very hard to look worse than that.

thaiphoon · Post by **thaiphoon** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:58 pm

look, don't blame the oline for our performance tonight. the cowgirls' secondary caused brunell to hold the ball too long. an OL has a well defined number of seconds to pass block his man. its the qb who as to get the ball out.

check it, this offense is NEW. despite all the big name players and coaches. it's going to take time. listen to gibbs he's not worried one bit. he know's they're just getting started.

everyone just breathe, relax and let this new offense develop.

did you just watch the game I watched ?? We had guys open... our O-line let the speed rushers from the outside get right to Brunell as he was completing the las step of his drop back. He either got sacked right there or he steps up into another sack.

The O-line was raped repeatedly by the Cowgirls D-line...

The Cowgirls Secondary barely had to play at all..

also...the "they are just getting started" doesn't work for me either...

This is not MLB where you play over 100 games per year. We get 16 games... thats it !! When you start out 0-2 in the division that we're in and 1 of those losses is to a division rival it hurts you even more.

Can we pull it out and turn in a Chicago or Seahawk 2005 performance and rattle off a bunch of wins in a row? Sure can... but we need to see the Dr. Jekyll to this team's Hyde in order to do that ...

thaiphoon · Post by **thaiphoon** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:59 pm

I suppose it doesn't, it just backs up what I said. When did we look worse?

In preseason games when the O-line fodder you know aren't going to make the team are playing...

It looked worse than this ... but not much...

skinsfanno9 · Post by **skinsfanno9** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:00 am

thaiphoon wrote:
look, don't blame the oline for our performance tonight. the cowgirls' secondary caused brunell to hold the ball too long. an OL has a well defined number of seconds to pass block his man. its the qb who as to get the ball out.

check it, this offense is NEW. despite all the big name players and coaches. it's going to take time. listen to gibbs he's not worried one bit. he know's they're just getting started.

everyone just breathe, relax and let this new offense develop.

did you just watch the game I watched ?? We had guys open... our O-line let the speed rushers from the outside get right to Brunell as he was completing the las step of his drop back. He either got sacked right there or he steps up into another sack.

The O-line was raped repeatedly by the Cowgirls D-line...

The Cowgirls Secondary barely had to play at all..

Well in fairness, given the number of false starts, at least the Cowboys Dline was offering Vasaline when they raped them, as the Redskins Oline where pretty damn sure they were coming.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:12 am

Yes, the o-line looked bad tonight, and it's worse that it happened against Dallas.

As long as the team learns from its mistakes over the past two games, we will see a much improved unit the rest of the way, and we will raise some eyebrows, for sure.

skinsfanno9 · Post by **skinsfanno9** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:28 am

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Yes, the o-line looked bad tonight, and it's worse that it happened against Dallas.

As long as the team learns from its mistakes over the past two games, we will see a much improved unit the rest of the way, and we will raise some eyebrows, for sure.

So if I paraphrase your post, you're basically saying, "We couldn't possibly be worse than this so the next game has GOT to be better than this!!!"

Sure, perhaps we could "raise eyebrows" with, say, a touchdown once every few games. :roll:

thaiphoon · Post by **thaiphoon** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:32 am

Sure, perhaps we could "raise eyebrows" with, say, a touchdown once every few games.

That would be just peachy !! I love having a star -studded offense with a million-dollar Offensive coach on the payroll and getting the offensive production we've seen in the past two games.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:34 am

thaiphoon wrote:
Sure, perhaps we could "raise eyebrows" with, say, a touchdown once every few games.

That would be just peachy !! I love having a star -studded offense with a million-dollar Offensive coach on the payroll and getting the offensive production we've seen in the past two games.

Hey, it could be worse.....

YOU could be the guy cutting the paychecks. :lol:

thaiphoon · Post by **thaiphoon** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:38 am

YOU could be the guy cutting the paychecks

Very true...

I'd have to invent new and different ways to doodle frowning faces on the checks too !!!

skinsfanno9 · Post by **skinsfanno9** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:38 am

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:
thaiphoon wrote:
Sure, perhaps we could "raise eyebrows" with, say, a touchdown once every few games.

That would be just peachy !! I love having a star -studded offense with a million-dollar Offensive coach on the payroll and getting the offensive production we've seen in the past two games.

Hey, it could be worse.....

YOU could be the guy cutting the paychecks.

Hmm, how would this be worse? The guy cutting the paychecks has the most profitable team in the league. Sign me up for that job. NOW!!!

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:45 am

skinsfanno9 wrote:Hmm, how would this be worse? The guy cutting the paychecks has the most profitable team in the league. Sign me up for that job. NOW!!!

Are you SURE you'd like to be THAT guy right about now??? Allo week long, Jerrah is gonna be calling him to say "scoreboard". That's gotta suck. Jerrah... :puke:

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:46 am

Dallas' secondary sucks, ok we had Randle El vs Terrance Newman one on one all night whenever we wanted and our quarterback the one who shall not be mentioned could'nt find him, or anyone else with a number in the 80's

joebagadonuts · Post by **joebagadonuts** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:47 am

I may in the minority here, but I didn't see the poor line play that many here did. They did okay, not great. I thought there were several plays where Brunell had a normal amount of time to throw, but didn't connect. Otherwise, the brilliant 'run-run-throw' strategy made third downs very difficult for all.

Mursilis · Post by **Mursilis** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:54 am

If people think O-line play is bad now, it's only going to get worse as teams figure out you don't need to keep safeties deep against Brunell. If there's no need to fear the long ball, we're going to see more blitzes and more sacks.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:01 am

Mursilis wrote:If people think O-line play is bad now, it's only going to get worse as teams figure out you don't need to keep safeties deep against Brunell. If there's no need to fear the long ball, we're going to see more blitzes and more sacks.

dallass did that last night. thats why the run game never got going. boonell never even attempted to throw anything beyond the 8 and 9 man box, so it was an easy choice for the pukes.

with saunders rep, i don't believe that none of the plays had deep options, i do however question the guy pulling the trigger on those plays.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:52 am

ditto

jru37726 · Post by **jru37726** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:53 am

The offensive line is always gonna look bad when you have a washed up QB who cant even throw ONE ball deep to stretch the defense out. I saw Brunell run into the pash rush on a number of occasions and saw defensive lineman catch #8 from behind.....300lb lineman are faster than this washed up bum.....what can we do to change Gibbs fascination with this guy? YOU CANNOT WIN A FOOTBALL WITH THIS GUY QBing.....PERIOD.