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well I dont know about everyone, but Im a little nervous about Dallas coming up sunday night. This is how I see the game being broke down....

Skins D vs Cowboys O - in my opinion the key to this game is if we can get pressure on Bledsoe. We didnt get pressure on Johnson in game 1 but Dallas' O-Line is nowhere close to the Vikings. We need to get consistent pressure from our D-Line without blitzing because when we blitz it usually means we are leaving our cb's in 1 on 1 coverage which we clearly cant do...... Another big ? is how will our CB's play vs their WR's. If Bledsoe is given time he is a very good QB and I dont think our CB's can hang with Dallas' WR. It looks like we will have Rogers on T.O. and Rumph/Wright on Terry Glenn. If we dont get pressure on Bledsoe I think we be in big trouble vs the pass all night. I think our Defense will be alright againt the run simply because their O-Line is not stellar, that being said if they start to burn us on passes it could open up the running game for them since we will have to use the LB's more in coverage to help out. Like I said before if we can consistantly get to Bledsoe I think we give ourselves a chance of him forcing it and turning the ball over.

Skins O vs Cowboys D- Honestly I did not have any complaints about the way we moved the ball vs Minn. If you look at our 16 pts you think we need to put up more pts, but you factore in that we had the ball 2x inside the 10 and kicked 2 FGs. If we score 2 TDs there we put up 24 pts and if Hall hits that field goal 27 pts. I was impressed by the motion offense last night and there were no penalties offensively on illegal formations or whatever. I think if we can fine tune our redzone offense and find a way to get in we will be alright. Im hoping for a big day from our offense vs Dallas. Establishing the run to pull the defense in and then airing it out and a healthy CP will deffinately let us establish the run!
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We need Shawn Springs to be healthy.
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frankcal20 wrote:We need Shawn Springs to be healthy.


And the D-line to step up. Bledsoe is a pick machine when he's pressured. And when he's not throwing picks in the face of pressure, he's getting sacked (49 times last year!!). But like any half-decent QB, he can carve a defense if he's given time. Bledsoe's going to have to feel the heat early and often.
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skins2357 wrote:well I dont know about everyone, but Im a little nervous about Dallas coming up sunday night. This is how I see the game being broke down....

Skins D vs Cowboys O - in my opinion the key to this game is if we can get pressure on Bledsoe. We didnt get pressure on Johnson in game 1 but Dallas' O-Line is nowhere close to the Vikings. We need to get consistent pressure from our D-Line without blitzing because when we blitz it usually means we are leaving our cb's in 1 on 1 coverage which we clearly cant do...... Another big ? is how will our CB's play vs their WR's. If Bledsoe is given time he is a very good QB and I dont think our CB's can hang with Dallas' WR. It looks like we will have Rogers on T.O. and Rumph/Wright on Terry Glenn. If we dont get pressure on Bledsoe I think we be in big trouble vs the pass all night. I think our Defense will be alright againt the run simply because their O-Line is not stellar, that being said if they start to burn us on passes it could open up the running game for them since we will have to use the LB's more in coverage to help out. Like I said before if we can consistantly get to Bledsoe I think we give ourselves a chance of him forcing it and turning the ball over.

Skins O vs Cowboys D- Honestly I did not have any complaints about the way we moved the ball vs Minn. If you look at our 16 pts you think we need to put up more pts, but you factore in that we had the ball 2x inside the 10 and kicked 2 FGs. If we score 2 TDs there we put up 24 pts and if Hall hits that field goal 27 pts. I was impressed by the motion offense last night and there were no penalties offensively on illegal formations or whatever. I think if we can fine tune our redzone offense and find a way to get in we will be alright. Im hoping for a big day from our offense vs Dallas. Establishing the run to pull the defense in and then airing it out and a healthy CP will deffinately let us establish the run!


I too am nervous. Our play last night didn't leave me with a sense of confidence going into Dallas. Joe, Gregg, and Al better be busting their rumps in practice this week, otherwise, Sunday night will be ugly.
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Mursilis wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:We need Shawn Springs to be healthy.


And the D-line to step up. Bledsoe is a pick machine when he's pressured. And when he's not throwing picks in the face of pressure, he's getting sacked (49 times last year!!). But like any half-decent QB, he can carve a defense if he's given time. Bledsoe's going to have to feel the heat early and often.



Bledsoe could do to us what Johnson did last night.
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This is how I see the Dallas game, honestly.

Dallas will be pissed.

Like last year, I expect Dallas will control the Skins for most of the game. Carlos Rogers showed me nothing last night and I' m worried he won't be able to adequately cover the Cowboys WRs.

Unlike last year, I don't see a miracle finish.

When all is said and done, I expect the Redskins will be 0-2.....which really bums me out to no end.
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Justice Hog wrote: When all is said and done, I expect the Redskins will be 0-2.....which really bums me out to no end.


Wow - gutsy call. Some of us may have been thinking it, but you actually said it!

All I can say is, I hope you're wrong. And I know you agree.
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at the moment i,m not feeling too good about dallas week.
at their house with the spanking we put on them last year....
then again this is dallas we are talking about but as of right now i,m seeing us
having a hard time sunday night.
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gibbsfan wrote:at the moment i,m not feeling too good about dallas week.
at their house with the spanking we put on them last year....
then again this is dallas we are talking about but as of right now i,m seeing us
having a hard time sunday night.


I need to get a dog because I am scared of this game big time. I really don't think we can go down 0-2 to start the year in this division. I really would rather see J. Camp. play and deal with 8-8 than have to watch Mark Brunell one more play.
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im not saying i think we will deff lose here, i think that if we execute in the red zone and move the ball like we did vs Minn our offense will put up enough points to win. I think if we can get in Bledsoes face and pressure him we win this game period. If we do that we can force him to throw the ball away and sack him a few times. If we give him time their WR's will run circles around our secondary. Im putting it all on our D Line here, if theres no pressure we lose vs Dallas, if we DO get pressure we win. We cant rely on blitzes to get pressure because then we are left with 1 on 1 coverage in the secondary. We need this talented D Line to step up and put Bledsoe on his a$$
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Justice Hog wrote:This is how I see the Dallas game, honestly.

Dallas will be pissed.

Like last year, I expect Dallas will control the Skins for most of the game. Carlos Rogers showed me nothing last night and I' m worried he won't be able to adequately cover the Cowboys WRs.

Unlike last year, I don't see a miracle finish.

When all is said and done, I expect the Redskins will be 0-2.....which really bums me out to no end.


I've mentally prepared myself for 0-2 as well. And pretty much for the same reasons. Though it doesn't mean I'm not gonna have the miracle shot at hand. -drinking
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Post by joebagadonuts »

One question: why does it seem that we always play Dallas on national TV early in the season in THEIR house?!? Didn't we do this last year? Shouldn't it be our turn to play them in our house on national TV?!? It's almost like they're setting us up to look bad.
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Justice Hog wrote:This is how I see the Dallas game, honestly.

Dallas will be pissed.

Like last year, I expect Dallas will control the Skins for most of the game. Carlos Rogers showed me nothing last night and I' m worried he won't be able to adequately cover the Cowboys WRs.

Unlike last year, I don't see a miracle finish.

When all is said and done, I expect the Redskins will be 0-2.....which really bums me out to no end.


I think you're right JH.

I'm hoping to get a split of our 2 week trip to Texas and get back to .500 with a win at home over the Jaguars.
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joebagadonuts wrote:It's almost like they're setting us up to look bad.


No, actually, the Redskins accomplished that in Week #1 at home, thank you.
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One question: why does it seem that we always play Dallas on national TV early in the season in THEIR house?!? Didn't we do this last year? Shouldn't it be our turn to play them in our house on national TV?!? It's almost like they're setting us up to look bad.


Setting us up to look bad? How? By having us open the season at home against a non-playoff team and having Dallas start on the road against a playoff team? Yea what a bunch of bastards.
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SkinzCanes wrote:at home against a non-playoff team. . .



This statement only works if the Vikings do not in fact make the playoffs this year. And that's a highly questionable judgement call, based on how they looked yesterday (and at the end of last season!)
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This statement only works if the Vikings do not in fact make the playoffs this year. And that's a highly questionable judgement call, based on how they looked yesterday (and at the end of last season!)


I was refering to last season. That's why i reffered to the Jags as a playoff team and the Vikes, who were 9-7 last season, as not a plyaoff team. As for this season, I don't think that the Vikes will make the playoffs either. We made them look a lot better last night than they really are.
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SkinzCanes wrote:
This statement only works if the Vikings do not in fact make the playoffs this year. And that's a highly questionable judgement call, based on how they looked yesterday (and at the end of last season!)


I was refering to last season. That's why i reffered to the Jags as a playoff team and the Vikes, who were 9-7 last season, as not a plyaoff team. As for this season, I don't think that the Vikes will make the playoffs either. We made them look a lot better last night than they really are.


I agree.

The Cowboys have started on the road against an AFC playoff team from the season before 2 years in a row.

And it was just two seasons ago that the Cowboys came to Washington to face us on Monday Night Football in Week 3.
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im nervous about this game,

we can't afford those stupid penalties
like we had against the vikings

also, we have a 700 page playbook...
lets use more then 1 page of it
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SkinzCanes wrote:We made them look a lot better last night than they really are.


These exact same words could have been said about the Bears last year. The Bears were also "not a playoff team" judging by your standard.

The Vikings would have been a playoff team had Brad Johnson started all of last season. He led them on a 7-2 run (I think) that was cut short by the end of the season, and he's off to a good start right now.

In the end, we're not going to know who's right about the Vikings until Week 17 rolls around. . .so until then it's a bit disingenuous to refer to them as "not a playoff team."

As of now that statement has no meaning, either because you're refering to something with no relevance or because you're refering to something that we can't know yet. Pick your poison.
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Irn-Bru wrote:
The Vikings would have been a playoff team had Brad Johnson started all of last season. He led them on a 7-2 run (I think) that was cut short by the end of the season, and he's off to a good start right now.




I don't agree with that. The Vikings did have a nice run under Brad Johnson last season but that had more to do with a soft stretch in their schedule than anything else. Check out the Vikes 2005 schedule, they went thru a ridiculously easy stretch and got back in the playoff race before hosting the Steelers late in the season and getting crushed.
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JPM36 wrote:I don't agree with that. The Vikings did have a nice run under Brad Johnson last season but that had more to do with a soft stretch in their schedule than anything else. Check out the Vikes 2005 schedule, they went thru a ridiculously easy stretch and got back in the playoff race before hosting the Steelers late in the season and getting crushed.


18-3 is a crush? Perhaps, but that's a really strong word to use for that loss.

The Vikings lost to the Bucs, Saints, and Falcons early in the season--all winable games for a playoff team. The Bucs "crushed" the Vikes 24-13 and the Falcons "crushed" them 30-10. I've got no basis beyond opinion to say that with Johnson in they would have won (which I think is true), so I suppose that I'll have leave it at that.

Their other losses early on were to Carolina and the Bengals; perhaps neither of these could have been avoided whoever was QB.

I see where you're coming from but I still would say that the Vikings would have been in the playoffs without Culpepper starting (seeing as how he threw 12 INTs in half a season, as many touchdowns as Brad would throw once he got in). Again, I don't know. . .it's all conjecture at this point, and each person can have their opinion.

But all of this is reinforcing my (originally) small point that we can't call the Vikings a "non-playoff" team to try and make things worse for the Skins than they actually are.
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Irn-Bru wrote:But all of this is reinforcing my (originally) small point that we can't call the Vikings a "non-playoff" team to try and make things worse for the Skins than they actually are.


Point noted. Early on in the preseason I essentially said the Vikings were going to be a walk-over team, and not even a real test for us - a win vs. them was practically in the bank, and Dallas would be our first real challenge. I was very wrong on that - obviously, they've got some solid pieces. Both lines looked good, Johnson was smart and accurate, Taylor stepped out of Jamal Lewis's shadow, and the WRs seemed to be pretty speedy and able to get open - if they stop dropping some of those catches, they could really threaten. After last night, I wouldn't be surprised to see Minn. contend for their division.
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i think Minn contends with Chi for that division. Their O Line is just to darn good. Every game that won and lost starts in the trenches and I think that Minn has the best line in the NFC and a top 5 line in the NFL.
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