Injury Bug hits

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:21 pm

Backup running back Jesse Lumsden's name was added to the injury list yesterday. He has a problem with his hip flexor. That could be a setback if he is unable to play Sunday. Lumsden is in a serious battle for a roster spot, and the coaching staff is anxious to see him in action, especially on special teams.

Hope he is able to play Sunday

Wide receiver Taylor Jacobs faces long odds in making the roster this year. Three wide receivers are all but certain to be on the final 53-man list: Santana Moss, Antwaan Randle El and Brandon Lloyd. James Thrash is an exceptional special teams player, and David Patton is a veteran receiver who had a good off-season. Mike Espy, a rookie free agent, also has impressed the coaches

Dosen't this happen every Training Camp?

Backup cornerback and special teams player Ade Jimoh has a sternum injury, will miss Sunday's preseason game against Cincinnati and will be out for part of next week.

The injury occurred when Jimoh was hit in the chest by running back Rock Cartwright during practice.

I think his spot is safe if he doesn't miss too much

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yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:45 pm

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Wide receiver Taylor Jacobs faces long odds in making the roster this year. Three wide receivers are all but certain to be on the final 53-man list: Santana Moss, Antwaan Randle El and Brandon Lloyd. James Thrash is an exceptional special teams player, and David Patton is a veteran receiver who had a good off-season. Mike Espy, a rookie free agent, also has impressed the coaches

The way I see it, he is #7 WR & we will probably only keep 5.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:45 pm

I really hope that Lumsten is able to play. Maybee Gibbs will see that his determination and previous contributions will be enough for him to stay another week if he isn't able to play. My understanding is that after 2 preseason games, the teams have to cut down their roster to ? amt of players. One game really isn't enough.

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:08 pm

frankcal20 wrote:I really hope that Lumsten is able to play. Maybee Gibbs will see that his determination and previous contributions will be enough for him to stay another week if he isn't able to play. My understanding is that after 2 preseason games, the teams have to cut down their roster to ? amt of players. One game really isn't enough.

Key Dates

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Regular Season · Preseason · Team-by-Team · Key Dates · Printable
2006 Key Dates
2006 Event
August 10-14 First preseason weekend
August 29 Roster cutdown to maximum of 65 players
September 2 Roster cutdown to maximum of 53 players
September 7-11 Kickoff 2006 Weekend

http://sportsline.com/nfl/schedules/keydates

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:36 am

While Jesse obviously doesn't want to miss any opportunities, I don't see any need to rush an injury. He's done enough to earn a look in the prseason regardless, and I doubt very much that missing Sunday's game would jeopardize that. The coaching staff really like him and aren't loking for a reason to drop him any time soon IMO. There are lots of other guys on the roster that should and will be 'cut' before the Redskins start thinking about where Jesse fits in. I'd hate to see him rush the injury and truly damage his chances by hurting himself further.

... and if Jesse can't go, then it's likely that Kerry Carter will benefit and see that much more playing time. He will likely see a lot regardless.

Nemo, Rock, and Carter will all get a lot of work on Sunday... both on offense and on special teams. Jesse too if he's ready to go. It's one of the best camp battles going and that's what preseason games are for... sorting out camp battles.

Cooley47 · Post by **Cooley47** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:25 pm

At least the injury bug hasnt hit any actual players. I guess Jimoh could end up being the 4th CB. But neither of the other 2 matter Jacobs is our 6th WR and I would rather have Thrash anyway.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:06 pm

Cooley47 wrote:At least the injury bug hasnt hit any actual players. I guess Jimoh could end up being the 4th CB. But neither of the other 2 matter Jacobs is our 6th WR and I would rather have Thrash anyway.

Do you even try to contribute or is this your way of padding :hmm:

You come across as being serious and that's scary if you are.

I'm pretty sure they are ALL actual players, I think 2 were actual Redskins and actually played in actual games, unless the Skins only dressed 51 last year. More has been heard from the 3rd guy than from the 2 to that I'm pretty sure were actually playing football for the Redskins last year.

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:24 pm

Cooley47 wrote:At least the injury bug hasnt hit any actual players. I guess Jimoh could end up being the 4th CB. But neither of the other 2 matter Jacobs is our 6th WR and I would rather have Thrash anyway.

All 88 on the roster are "actual players" or they wouldn't be there. Jimoh, Molinaro & Jacobs were on last yrs roster. Lumsden has been very impressive. While not all of them would make this yrs team even if healthy, they are competing. My guess is that Lefotu is more a candidate for PS this yr. Lumsden has a good chance of making the roster.

Cooley47 · Post by **Cooley47** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:45 pm

I mean contributors to the team. I am trying to say, thankfully none of the players who matter towards the outcome of the team besides maybe Jimoh are hurt.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:02 pm

Will someone please highjack this thread, so I can lock it :shock:

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:57 pm

Cooley47 wrote:I mean contributors to the team. I am trying to say, thankfully none of the players who matter towards the outcome of the team besides maybe Jimoh are hurt.

Jim Molinaro isn't valuable? Our best offensive line backup isn't important and doesn't affect the outcome of the team??

Okay then.

Yeah... offensive linemen rarely get hurt do they?

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:02 pm

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

Kili Lefotu
Ade Jimoh
Kevin Simon
Taylor Jacobs
Jesse Lumsden
Aric Williams
Curry Burns
Nic Clemons
Jim Molinaro

Cooley47 · Post by **Cooley47** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:12 pm

I didnt see the Jim Molinaro thing thats horrible. He is a big part of this team. I hope he can come back. O wait no one mentioned Molinaro earlier in the thread..........

JPFair · Post by **JPFair** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:16 am

My only hope is that they haven't given Taylor Jacobs too much of Al Saunders new playbook, cuz with this latest injury, he's as good as gone, and someone is going to pick him up. I hope he does'nt go to a divisision rival, or anyone for that matter, where he can fill the coaching staff with some of the new nuances of our revamped offense that might feature some things that Saunders didn't use in K.C.

Jacobs, as I said, is as good as gone. I hope they've been limiting him to most of the playbook.

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:28 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

Kili Lefotu
Ade Jimoh
Kevin Simon
Taylor Jacobs
Jesse Lumsden
Aric Williams
Curry Burns
Nic Clemons
Jim Molinaro

None of these guys are assured of roster spots. They were probably pressing too much & not able to relax. That makes injuties more likely (& frequently detracts from performance).

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:21 am

Cooley47 wrote:I didnt see the Jim Molinaro thing thats horrible. He is a big part of this team. I hope he can come back. O wait no one mentioned Molinaro earlier in the thread..........

Oh well then... if it's not already mentioned in one thread, how could you possibly be expected to know?

Some people gather information BEFORE formulating an opinion... it allows them to make less ignorant posts. :shock:

JPM36 · Post by **JPM36** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:59 pm

Boss, take it easy man.

Let's just hope we get through the pre-season without any major injuries and that everyone's healthy in time for the Vikings game.

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:38 pm

JPM36 wrote:Boss, take it easy man.

Take what easy? Someone trying to figure out what they're talking about AFTER they've made a finite statement on something? Why?

If it's their right to make posts without thinking, then why isn't it someone else's right to take them to task? Or maybe it's just me that isn't entitled to an opinion?

I'm not hear to whipe noses... I'm here to encourage good dialogue about the Redskins. I follow the same rules that everybody else does. Good dialogue means meaningful discussion... informed discussion... if you don't know what you're talking about... that's cool... but don't act like you do... or don't be surprised when someone who thinks about things takes exception to something inane that you have said.

Everybody here has a right to express their opinion regardless of what it is.... as long as it's within the framework of our rules and regulations... for better or worse. :shock:

Making a statement like we have no 'contributors to the team' injured, when you don't even know who's injured, is uninformed to say the least. To blame it on it NOT being mentioned in a new thread is weak... especially when there is a thread on the same page entitled 'Molinaro Faces Knee Scope'. Maybe if a few people ARE taken to task when they type before they think... then maybe just a few of them WILL think before they type... and that ultimately will make THN a better forum for all Redskin fans.

JPM36 · Post by **JPM36** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:06 pm

I just think you're being overly abrasive man. Not everyone follows the Redskins hardcore during the offseason. What percentage of Redskins fans would you say know that Jim Molinaro recently had his knee scoped? Not a huge amount I'd be willing to guess. Is that really such a big deal?

None of the guys mentioned in THIS thread, are hugely important to the Redskins success, although Jimoh is a key contributor, and I think that's what he meant. There's no need to come down so hard on people who misspeak.

I think people around here are too sensitive sometimes and take stuff too seriously, especially when other people have an opinion that differs from their own. I'm sure there a lot of Redskins fans who don't think that Jimoh or Lumsden or Jacobs being hurt makes any difference to the team, especially when it's the 2nd week of August.

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:12 pm

No it's not a big deal if you don't know something about the team... just don't say something ridiculous like the team doesn't have anyone worth a lick of salt out injured when you don't know who's injured.

YOU may not think guys like Jimoh or Jacobs or Lumsden are 'hugely important' but since two out of those 3 guys might be on the roster... I'd say they're important. In fact, I'd say those are the 'battles' that you want to watch the most in the preseason games, so IMO that actually makes their absence that much more important.

And you're right, you are being too sensitive.

Me abrasive? Wow, what a surprise. Are you new here?

JPM36 · Post by **JPM36** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:35 pm

I just think the abrasive hardass act gets old sometimes.

Let's just talk Redskins football without getting in the face of everyone we disagree with. We're all Redskins fans here. Why do we have to bicker with each other so much? We all want the same thing.

And I also dont think Jacobs or Lumsden are important to the Redskins success this season. I can't believe anyone actually believes they are. I realize football is a team sport but those guys are at the very bottom of the roster (if they even make it)

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:46 pm

... and you're entitled to feel that way... just as I'm entitled to be that way.

Difference is only one of us is whining about it, and taking this thread off topic.

... make general statements like 'we're all after the same thing' all you want... they're a lot easier to make when you don't have to clean up the mess around here.

I personally think ALL 53 guys that make the roster are 'contributors to the team', which if you'll go back through the thread, was the original contention... not that they were 'important to the success' of the team... let alone 'hugely important'.

JPM36 · Post by **JPM36** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:55 pm

Yeah, I'm a whiner. That's me. I whine all the time. Blah blah blah.

Just more abrasiveness from you. Can you ever make an argument without attacking the other person?

I'm done with this thread as I don't feel like turning this into a whole big thing. I realize that you have a lot of work to do with a lot of messes on this site, and I really do appreciate everything you and the other staff members do. I just think that you are sometimes guilty of attacking people for no reason other than having a different opinion from your own. And for whatever reason, that bothers me.

If we are counting on contributions from Jacobs and Lumsden this season, I'll be worried.

Enjoy the game tonight.

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:40 pm

Me abrasive? Wow, what a surprise. Are you new here?

You're not abrasive, you just rub some people the wrong way :wink:

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:24 am

JPM36 wrote:Yeah, I'm a whiner. That's me. I whine all the time. Blah blah blah.

Just more abrasiveness from you. Can you ever make an argument without attacking the other person?

I'm done with this thread as I don't feel like turning this into a whole big thing. I realize that you have a lot of work to do with a lot of messes on this site, and I really do appreciate everything you and the other staff members do. I just think that you are sometimes guilty of attacking people for no reason other than having a different opinion from your own. And for whatever reason, that bothers me.

If we are counting on contributions from Jacobs and Lumsden this season, I'll be worried.

Enjoy the game tonight.

Sill going on about it eh? I haven't had time to post JACK since January when I started doing the site makeover... so where and when I've attacked these posters for having a 'different opinion'... I'd surely like you to point out to me.

And there isn't some rule that says I'm not allowed to express an opinion either... so find me a place where I ever break a board rule to commit these heinous 'attacks'. Because if it's in Smack... you're just spouting hot air... that's what smack is for... find me a transgression in the public forums... we allow others to attack a post, not a poster... same goes for the staff... so instead of just accusing me... why not provide me with an example where I have 'attacked somebody for having a different opinion'. Because i assure you, while i may have attacked a post... I will not have attacked the poster themselves... not outside Smack.

And you accuse me of attacking you? I said one of us is whining about it... you turn it into I called you a whiner... probably indicative of other leaps you're making. I didn't call YOU anything... I just said that you were whining in your post... and still are. :roll:

I suggest you take any further personal commentary on me to the Smack forum... where personal attacks belong... and stop hijacking this thread. You can say whatever you would like there... and I've heard it all before. If you'd like to attack the post itself... feel free... but since you seem to want to make this personal... take it to Smack please... you're selfishly taking his thread off topic continuously now...

... but I'm happy to pick up where we leave off in the Smack forum.