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Since the war on terror began 5 years ago...do you feel the world is a safer place to live or is the world more dangerous since the war began?[/

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Ok first and foremost I would like to say this is not a topic to start a huge disagreement with anyone. I just want to ask a simple question and see what people think regarding the current situation in the world today.

Since the war on terror began 5 years ago...do you feel the world is a safer place to live or is the world more dangerous since the war began?

I am not asking who started it and why the war is necessary. I only want to know if you feel more safe now as compared to the period prior to the war on terror begining.
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dnpmakkah wrote:Ok first and foremost I would like to say this is not a topic to start a huge disagreement with anyone. I just want to ask a simple question and see what people think regarding the current situation in the world today.

Since the war on terror began 5 years ago...do you feel the world is a safer place to live or is the world more dangerous since the war began?

I am not asking who started it and why the war is necessary. I only want to know if you feel more safe now as compared to the period prior to the war on terror begining.


The question is ambiguous. Do you mean "do I feel safer now than I felt then?" or "do I feel that we are safer now than we were then?
Prior to 9/11/01 we felt safer than we were.
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I don't feel as safe when I leave the U.S. as I did prior to the war on terror, but my comfort level here in the States hasn't really changed.

I worry more about friends and family than I do about my own safety.
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I guess I mean do you think the war on terror improved the safety of the world or has it enticed the insurgency and made the world more dangerous. But obviously prior to the 9/11 attacks most Americans felt safer than they do now...because we were pretty much in our own bubble and this generation hadn't really experienced anything like it.
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1niksder wrote:I don't feel as safe when I leave the U.S. as I did prior to the war on terror, but my comfort level here in the States hasn't really changed.

I worry more about friends and family than I do about my own safety.


Do you think an attack is likely to happen here again? I mean an attack on the scale of 9/11 or bigger. Me...I think it won't happen that big but the smaller scaled ones are what I'm most afraid of...which is why I will not go to niteclubs anymore, especially living in the D.C. area.
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dnpmakkah wrote: But obviously prior to the 9/11 attacks most Americans felt safer than they do now...because we were pretty much in our own bubble and this generation hadn't really experienced anything like it.


those would be my feelings. so i chose #2.
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dnpmakkah wrote:
1niksder wrote:I don't feel as safe when I leave the U.S. as I did prior to the war on terror, but my comfort level here in the States hasn't really changed.

I worry more about friends and family than I do about my own safety.


Do you think an attack is likely to happen here again? I mean an attack on the scale of 9/11 or bigger. Me...I think it won't happen that big but the smaller scaled ones are what I'm most afraid of...which is why I will not go to niteclubs anymore, especially living in the D.C. area.

When was the last time a night club was blown up in DC or anyother city for that matter. Whenyou let what you think may happen determine what you will and will not continue to do then the terrorist win. You don't have to start trying a bunch of new things to prove you aren't affraid but you should stop doing what you were doing.
There are things that I would give my life for and the terrorist give less value to human life than I do so I'd say yes it will happen again, I'm not saying it will happen in my lifetime but I do think it will happen again. I also feel the "war on terror" is a means of preventing it from happening sooner than later.
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I'd have to say that some places are safer, some are more dangerous. I think we are safer here than we were. My guess is that if you ask Afganis, they will say safer. If you ask Kurds or Shia in Iraq, they will say safer. If you ask Sunni Arabs in Iraq, they will say less safe. In those countries that haven't taken steps to counter the threat, they are less safe.
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1niksder wrote:Whenyou let what you think may happen determine what you will and will not continue to do then the terrorist win. You don't have to start trying a bunch of new things to prove you aren't affraid but you should stop doing what you were doing.

Some places are safer than others. I think a library for example is safer than a niteclub (crowded and no security) which, is extremely dangerous and not worth it to me for reasons more than just terrorism. Another thing that freaks me out is driving through tunnels or over bridges and even being stuck in traffic during rush hour.
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dnpmakkah wrote:
1niksder wrote:Whenyou let what you think may happen determine what you will and will not continue to do then the terrorist win. You don't have to start trying a bunch of new things to prove you aren't affraid but you should stop doing what you were doing.

Some places are safer than others. I think a library for example is safer than a niteclub (crowded and no security) which, is extremely dangerous and not worth it to me for reasons more than just terrorism. Another thing that freaks me out is driving through tunnels or over bridges and even being stuck in traffic during rush hour.

You had issues with all of this prior to to 9-11.. we all did.
We just think about terrorism now. Before you thought about what a waste of time driving in rush hour is now you think you are a target. Bridges brought thoughts of wind gush and snapped cables, now it's bombs and most libraries are safer than nightclubs depending on the books you're reading :wink:
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1niksder wrote:I don't feel as safe when I leave the U.S. as I did prior to the war on terror, but my comfort level here in the States hasn't really changed.

I worry more about friends and family than I do about my own safety.


I that because only the good die young? :hmm:
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dnpmakkah wrote:
1niksder wrote:I don't feel as safe when I leave the U.S. as I did prior to the war on terror, but my comfort level here in the States hasn't really changed.

I worry more about friends and family than I do about my own safety.


Do you think an attack is likely to happen here again? I mean an attack on the scale of 9/11 or bigger. Me...I think it won't happen that big but the smaller scaled ones are what I'm most afraid of...which is why I will not go to niteclubs anymore, especially living in the D.C. area.


Nite clubs can be dangerous without terrorists.
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i think what 9-11 did to us americans is that it raised our awareness to the possibilities.

who knows if we are safer?

i think, now, we are more aware that the risk is there and that may translate to a higher sense of awareness. does a higher sense of awareness equal vulneravility? i don't know. it's a good question, but rather ambiguous.

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there has been no change.

maybe people are more polarized in their view of terrorism and our role in its end but the fact that people are out there and they hate us is nothing new and it hasnt changed.


the only thing that has changed is the support we once had from the international community. now its gone..
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HOSS wrote:i think what 9-11 did to us americans is that it raised our awareness to the possibilities.

who knows if we are safer?

i think, now, we are more aware that the risk is there and that may translate to a higher sense of awareness. does a higher sense of awareness equal vulneravility? i don't know. it's a good question, but rather ambiguous.

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A higher sense of awareness should make us safer.
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TincoSkin wrote:the fact that people are out there and they hate us is nothing new and it hasnt changed.

There are probably more of them now than ever before. :wink:
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JSPB22 wrote:
TincoSkin wrote:the fact that people are out there and they hate us is nothing new and it hasnt changed.

There are probably more of them now than ever before. :wink:


I think we're just more aware of them.
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I for one, do not think about a terrorist attack among my daily activities. That is what the feds get paid to do. Not saying that if I see something suspicous, I am not going to tell someone.

There should be an option on the poll that is indifferent because that is how I feel. I do know we need more border control. I think we all would feel safer if that situation wasn't so chaotic.

I also think international support has diminshed for two reasons:

1. U.N./other countries are impotent on dealing with terrorism.

2. U.S. media won't let the government do their job in protecting us for fear of losing the "next big story".
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If things are relatively the same as it was prior to 9/11 does that mean that terrorist activity is also the same. Judging from the news they make it out to seem that life is very bad. And to be honest with you in my lifetime I can't remember a time when so much was going on and it seems to not even have hit it's climax yet.
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Cappster wrote:U.S. media won't let the government do their job in protecting us for fear of losing the "next big story".

I think the government won't let the U.S. media do their job of informing us, for fear of losing the "next big domestic spying operation." :wink:
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Cappster wrote:
U.S. media won't let the government do their job in protecting us for fear of losing the "next big story".

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I think the government won't let the U.S. media do their job of informing us, for fear of losing the "next big domestic spying operation."


I was refering to INTERNATIONAL operations. As in the tracking of al-queda funds. Its almost lke the media doesn't want international help because the countries that do help, end up on the front page of the NY times. They do not like to be exposed and possibly a front runner for the next terrorist attack.

As far as the domestic stuff, I don't really like "big brother" watching me but I don't have anything to hide either. The only thing they are going to find is me doing this----> -drinking fart: HTTR
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Cappster wrote:
Cappster wrote:
U.S. media won't let the government do their job in protecting us for fear of losing the "next big story".

JSPB22 wrote:
I think the government won't let the U.S. media do their job of informing us, for fear of losing the "next big domestic spying operation."


I was refering to INTERNATIONAL operations. As in the tracking of al-queda funds. Its almost lke the media doesn't want international help because the countries that do help, end up on the front page of the NY times. They do not like to be exposed and possibly a front runner for the next terrorist attack.

As far as the domestic stuff, I don't really like "big brother" watching me but I don't have anything to hide either. The only thing they are going to find is me doing this----> -drinking fart: HTTR


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