Is NASCAR a sport?

redskins12287 · Post by **redskins12287** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:15 pm

I'm saying no.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:28 pm

Yes. If JOe Gibbs calls it a sport, then, dangit, I'm callin'it a sport to.

UK Skins Fan · Post by **UK Skins Fan** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:43 pm

It's more of a sport than Formula 1, but it still ain't a sport.

joebagadonuts · Post by **joebagadonuts** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:18 pm

if it's not a sport when i drive around the block, then it's not a sport when they do it.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:17 pm

Gold is more entertaining to watch than Nascar on TV.

redskindave · Post by **redskindave** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:58 pm

No way, I would rather watch paint dry. HTTR

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:18 pm

I'll be the first to admit NASCAR is one of the top five worst things to watch, but none the less it is a sport.

football · Post by **football** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:02 pm

if driving fast isnt a sport, then why do they make sports cars

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:09 pm

football wrote:if driving fast isnt a sport, then why do they make sports cars

For guys with small.... Oh, uh, wrong forum...

football · Post by **football** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:20 pm

cvillehog wrote:
football wrote:if driving fast isnt a sport, then why do they make sports cars

For guys with small.... Oh, uh, wrong forum...

OHHHHH SNAP!

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:32 pm

It is not an Olympic sport but NASCAR and -all- car racing is a great sport. I love cars and I am a decent fast driver myself. It takes more than you think to be a successful competitor in car racing.

Unless somebody knows from experience what kind of physical conditioning, concentration, skill and courage it takes to drive a car at those speeds, refrain from criticising things that you do not really know. Car racing is as much an individual sport as it is a TEAM sport.

Ther are endurance races that may put to shame the physical conditioning of "athletes" in several other Olympic sports. Anybody heard of the Le Mans Series in America and Europe (let alone THE race)?

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:59 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:It is not an Olympic sport but NASCAR and -all- car racing is a great sport. I love cars and I am a decent fast driver myself. It takes more than you think to be a successful competitor in car racing.

Unless somebody knows from experience what kind of physical conditioning, concentration, skill and courage it takes to drive a car at those speeds, refrain from criticising things that you do not really know. Car racing is as much an individual sport as it is a TEAM sport.

Ther are endurance races that may put to shame the physical conditioning of "athletes" in several other Olympic sports. Anybody heard of the Le Mans Series in America and Europe (let alone THE race)?

And a study showed playing on the drum line of a Drum and Bugel Corps is equivalent physically to running a marathon, does that make Drum and Bugel Corps a sport?

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:02 pm

cvillehog wrote:And a study showed playing on the drum line of a Drum and Bugel Corps is equivalent physically to running a marathon, does that make Drum and Bugel Corps a sport?

I doubt the silly analogy but no, it does not.

A sport requires a combination of factors that make it competitive and physical conditioning is one of them. There are other elements of strategy and skill that are also very important. Car racing has them all and a failure to perform at those speeds brings far more serious consequesnces than falling in a 100 m dash.

gibbsfan · Post by **gibbsfan** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:45 pm

this is a sport and i remember at one point saying the samething you all are until joe gibbs went racing back in say 92 and look whats happened 3 cup titles.

4 hours in a racecar at 190mph yeah they are damn good at what they do. yes this is a sport for the the stick and ball folks i truly understand why nascar wouldn,t catch on but that everyones opinion right and i respect that.

oh by the way i did mention nascar is a sport didn,t i and they are real athletes too.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:47 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:
cvillehog wrote:And a study showed playing on the drum line of a Drum and Bugel Corps is equivalent physically to running a marathon, does that make Drum and Bugel Corps a sport?
I doubt the silly analogy but no, it does not.

A sport requires a combination of factors that make it competitive and physical conditioning is one of them. There are other elements of strategy and skill that are also very important. Car racing has them all and a failure to perform at those speeds brings far more serious consequesnces than falling in a 100 m dash.

What are the specific factors?

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:09 am

cvillehog wrote:
What are the specific factors?

I'd say very large kahonies. :lol:

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:25 am

I'll have to say yes NASCAR is a sport. I was once told it's all in the name.

Non
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JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:21 am

I don't doubt the physical conditioning required for a drum and bugle corps. I played quads, and I basically had to run around at top speed with 40 pounds strapped on my shoulders swinging my arms like a mad man for 10-15 minutes straight. At the time, I could run 8 miles in 56 minutes flat.

Now the only times I swing my arms is when I'm punching an imaginary ref, the only time I run at full speed for 10-15 minutes is well, never and I can't run 8 miles.

But no, it is not a sport (drum corps). What is a sport is Nascar. Its not an athletic sport, but it is a sport in the same way that hunting and fishing is a sport.

redskinz4ever · Post by **redskinz4ever** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:38 am

no not a sport. driving around in a circle is just plain boring.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:59 am

JansenFan wrote:I don't doubt the physical conditioning required for a drum and bugle corps. I played quads, and I basically had to run around at top speed with 40 pounds strapped on my shoulders swinging my arms like a mad man for 10-15 minutes straight. At the time, I could run 8 miles in 56 minutes flat.

Now the only times I swing my arms is when I'm punching an imaginary ref, the only time I run at full speed for 10-15 minutes is well, never and I can't run 8 miles.

But no, it is not a sport (drum corps). What is a sport is Nascar. Its not an athletic sport, but it is a sport in the same way that hunting and fishing is a sport.

I never claimed drum corps was a sport. I was merely trying to find out what some people's definition of a sport is by pointing out how broadly they were defining it in order to include NASCAR.

However, I also disagree that hunting and fishing are sports. Heck, often times those two activities aren't even competitive in nature.

What, precisely, about NASCAR makes it a sport? If your only definition of "sport" is a competitive event that requires phisical exertion, then you are including many things beyond NASCAR that almost no-one would consider an actual sport (like drum corps).

Please also understand that saying NASCAR isn't a sport isn't a put-down, and that it isn't a requirement that all forms of enterntainment be considered sporting events.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:07 am

I wasn't arguing the point you were making. I fully understand what you were getting at. Even moreso, I was validating you argument that D&B does require an enormous amount of physical conditioning, yet did not qualify as a sport.

On the Nascar angle, racing is a sport by definition, just in nascar they happen to drive.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:14 am

JansenFan wrote:I wasn't arguing the point you were making. I fully understand what you were getting at. Even moreso, I was validating you argument that D&B does require an enormous amount of physical conditioning, yet did not qualify as a sport.

On the Nascar angle, racing is a sport by definition, just in nascar they happen to drive.

I would argue that racing is a competition by definition, but not a sport. In a sport, you have two opposing teams, an objective points system (goals scored, etc.) and a ball/puck/rocket/whatever.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:17 am

In nascar you have 41 opposing teams, an objective points system based on placing and the car is the equipment the driver must use to win, rather than a puck and a stick.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:25 am

JansenFan wrote:In nascar you have 41 opposing teams, an objective points system based on placing and the car is the equipment the driver must use to win, rather than a puck and a stick.

A sport is a type of competition. Racing is a type of competition. However, racing is not a sport. I've seen no definition of sport that includes NASCAR (or any racing) without also including things that clearly aren't sports. This includes the dictionary definition of sport, which is so utterly vague that anything more physically demanding than online chess would qualify.

gibbsfan · Post by **gibbsfan** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:28 am

1niksder wrote:I'll have to say yes NASCAR is a sport. I was once told it's all in the name.

Non
Athletic
SPORT
Centered
Around
Rednecks

i guess you see this from a different angle ,like the infield alot more goes on than what you see from the infield.
behind the scenes like ,sponsors about 15-20mil a car and joe has three so you know where i goin with this.so you need to be seen up front have talent,yes that being car control and taking chances.

n-national a-association for s-stock c-car a-auto r-racing.

yep it,s still a sport in my opinion.