T.O. wants to renegotiate contract.

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:53 pm

Howard Eskin reports T.O. wants to renegotiate his contract with the Eagles. He says he will hold out if necessary. Eskin predicts he will not show up for the first mini-camp April 30th. The Eagles in the past have not renegotaited any veteran contracts, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. I said it before, the Eagles made a deal with the devil, I guess it's time to pay up. Always thought he was a cancer. :shock:

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:01 pm

link?

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:16 pm

Id like to read that article, but anyways they got T.O. but now theyre having to pay for him... id like them to fall apart, and weel hear the last of the eagles.

portis26 · Post by **portis26** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:33 pm

fat lenny's on it

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/s ... id=2030532

skins81 · Post by **skins81** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:04 pm

Howard Eskin is traditionally unreliable. He reported that TO would definately play in the NFC championship game :roll:

But I can't see any reason TO would hire a new agent.

Isn't Robert David Joseph the agent TO said nothing but nice things about in his book? He's had the same agent for like 9 years now. Great player, lousy attitude.

That locker room is starting to crack; TO, Simon, H Thomas, they lost Mayberry who is one of the good guys, Westbrook can't be happy with his tender.

I hope their run is over, but they're still the team to beat until they get knocked down.

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:33 pm

Maybe the Eagles will be faced with some problems with TO!! Then we won't be forced to worry about where he is on the field all the time. :shock:

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:51 pm

Sheffield is doing the same thing to the Yankees, and Taylor is doing it to us. Oh, and there's the thing with LaVar.
It's all the rage. Sign your name, and say "Oooops! Just kidding !"
In the real world, nobody gets away with that sort of crap.

Primetime42 · Post by **Primetime42** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:43 am

Funny how much TO went out of his way to protect the guy when he screwed up in SF

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:06 am

The deal has to be redone anyway. He's due a $5 mil roster bonus in '06. $7 mil is a little much to tie up in one player for a single season.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:57 am

General Failure wrote:The deal has to be redone anyway. He's due a $5 mil roster bonus in '06. $7 mil is a little much to tie up in one player for a single season.

GF, I'm trying to look at the silver lining in the T.O. story, and your post is quite helpful. But I have a lingering question. As an Eagles fan, does this renegotiation demonstrate T.O.'s desire to remain with the team longer (since he was "unlikely to playout" the last three years on the original one)?

Yes, it seems, on the surface, that T.O. is saying "show me the money" (he's worth it IMO), but it'd be interesting to know what his true motivation is, and what his team's fan base thinks about it.

skins81 · Post by **skins81** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:02 am

His 'true motivation' is to get paid.

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:06 pm

He's already getting paid. What he wants now is a deal that isn't going to find him getting released after this season.

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:26 pm

THE NEWS

Eagles' offensive tackle Tra Thomas hired a new agent. On the same day that teammate Terrell Owens hired super agent Drew Rosenhaus, Thomas apparently followed suit. The Philadelphia Daily News reports that Peter Schaffer is still technically listed as Thomas' agent, but he did not return calls after claiming he would contact the seven-year veteran to verify that status. Rosenhaus is expected to request that the Eagles restructure Thomas' current contract, which runs through 2008.

OUR VIEW

It appears as if Owens and Thomas have called in a heavyweight to deal with their contract situations. This could be bad news for the Eagles, as Owens and Thomas are two of the team's premier offensive players. We'll continue to watch both situations closely in the coming weeks.

http://www.fanball.com/fb/index.cfm

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:56 pm

General Failure wrote:The deal has to be redone anyway. He's due a $5 mil roster bonus in '06. $7 mil is a little much to tie up in one player for a single season.

well they paid him 8.5 mil this past year and he scheduled to make 3.5 mil this year, plus a 5 mil roster bonus in 2006, he's a punk , and a locker room cancer, it's all about the money, he's the second highest paid reciever in the league and that's not good enough, this was predicted the day he signed. I hope he stays with Philly so we can see Taylor and him go at it again. Something tells me they don't like each other. The only thing is, Philly won't renegotiate, he's 31 now, and Philly's history is not to give players of this age a long term deal, he might take offense to that, so it might get messy. :lol:

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:26 am

Wow. I haven't seen someone this clueless since ... *looks at watch*

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:48 pm

General Failure wrote:Wow. I haven't seen someone this clueless since ... *looks at watch*

Hey genius, he thinks he's bigger than the team, read my posts from last year at this time, it was predicted. The great thing is Philly's front office won't budge. How does that song go...."well the honeymoon's over, where do we go from here.....":shock:

welch · Post by **welch** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:42 am

Would anyone want him at <whatever> price? If it sucked out the entire cap, enfuriated the existing players, and, etc etc

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:47 am

Every halfwit predicted that there would be huge problems. You're no different. Just one more guy talking out of the wrong end. I know, it's hard to find clues with your head buried in the sand.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:13 pm

General Failure wrote:..Every halfwit predicted that there would be huge problems....

Have to agree GF - this was "hinted at" by a lot of "jealous" fans.

Fact is this guy is just doing what a lot of players are trying to do and that is to try and get as much as they can and to hell with the contract AND the team thing! It looks like ST may be doing the same thing and we really haven't heard the end of LA either IMO. Then, we have these other half-wits who come out and say "hell man, the teams also let players go so they're entitled" - that's BS!

The Eagles have been pretty strong with their negotiations and it will be interesting to see what happens to 2 pretty key players. IMO I hope that Joe also "dictates" and does not let anyone put the screws to us. My little "theory" is that it is all about the team - let them make their headlines and their "bling bling" elsewhere! Some other very grateful team player will make that catch, tackle or block.

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:01 pm

You have to admire how the Eagles front office handles situations like this, they stick to their guns and don't give in. The Redskins front office seems to do the opposite, they're already talking about giving Taylor another deal, why? Let's not think in the moment for once, and realize how this might affect us long term. I'm not an Eagles fan but their front office sure does have it figured out!

skins81 · Post by **skins81** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:37 am

PASTABELLY

Terrell Owens, chagrined by some of the characterizations of him over the past week, denied on Monday night he switched agents to improve his financial status, but was as elusive in discussing his contract as he is in dodging NFL cornerbacks.

The Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver also insisted his goal is to win a Super Bowl title with his current team, but found time to take a not particularly veiled swipe at Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, with the talkative wide receiver noting at one point that he "wasn't the guy who got tired in the Super Bowl."

What Owens apparently has grown weary of, it seems, are what he perceives as portrayals of him being selfish and opportunistic.

"As always, there is a lot being written and [reported] without anyone talking to me," Owens said. "I mean, I can't do right and I can't do wrong. It's getting, in some ways, like it was for me in San Francisco. But the one thing that won't change is that I'm going to show up to play and to win. No one can ever [debate] that."

Whether Owens is seeking a change in his contract -- after just one season under the seven-year, $48.97 million deal he signed with the Eagles as part of a three-team trade that landed him in Philadelphia last spring -- remains unknown. ESPN.com first reported last Tuesday that Owens had retained high-profile agent Drew Rosenhaus, arguably the NFL's top dealmaker, perhaps in an effort to upgrade his contract.

Rosenhaus met briefly last Wednesday in Philadelphia with Eagles team president Joe Banner. Neither man divulged details of their conversation but it should be noted that Rosenhaus typically huddles with team officials when he takes on a new client.

League sources have said that the Eagles will not renegotiate Owens' contract at this time but might, at some point, consider restructuring the deal to redistribute monies due in the next few years. At least under current ownership, Philadelphia has never made dramatic changes to a contract with so many years remaining on it.

On Monday, asked pointedly and repeatedly about his reasons for retaining Rosenhaus, and about his possible designs on a new deal, Owens declined to comment in detail. Rosenhaus also declined comment.

"We'll just have to see what happens," Owens said.

Club officials might have to adopt the same wait-and-see approach when it comes to Owens' attendance at offseason workouts. The nine-year veteran was non-committal when asked about spring and summer practices, at one point questioning the difference between voluntary and mandatory workouts, but was adamant that coach Andy Reid knows exactly what kind of shape Owens will be in for his second season with the team.

"No one can ever accuse me of not being in great shape," said Owens, who is likely to skip offseason sessions and perhaps even the start of training camp. "Andy knows that. My teammates know that, when I show up, I'm ready to go. The biggest concern should be winning a Super Bowl. That's what I show up to do. I've never been out of shape. I mean, this is my [livelihood]."

The five-time Pro Bowl performer acknowledged he was particularly riled by a recent broadcast report that he was late for at least one team meeting in the week preceding Super Bowl XXXIX. He questioned both the motivation and timing of the report and denied its validity. Owens said that, were it true, Reid probably would not have allowed him to play in the championship game.

Eagles officials could not be reached late Monday night to comment on Owens' account of his attendance during Super Bowl week.

For the title matchup, Owens made a comeback some considered miraculous, playing nearly the entire contest only 6½ weeks after sustaining a broken right ankle in a Dec. 19 outing against the Dallas Cowboys. Owens caught nine passes for 122 yards in the Super Bowl loss to the New England Patriots.

"There are a lot of people who said that me playing in that game was an inspiration to them," Owens said. "Hey, the only person I was trying to inspire was myself. I wanted to prove to myself that I could do it. But why did I want to do it? To win a Super Bowl for the team, for the fans, for the city. I did everything they asked me to do. I played every snap they allowed me to play. I wasn't even running until, like, two weeks before the game. But I made sure I was in the best shape possible. I wasn't the guy who got tired in the Super Bowl."

Asked to whom he was referring, Owens laughed, then changed the subject. It has been widely reported that McNabb was either ill or fatigued late in Super Bowl XXXIX. The star quarterback has denied either was the case.

Owens, 31, said his rehabilitation continues, his leg feels "great" and he is "really looking forward" to the 2005 season.

Owens registered 77 receptions for 1,200 yards and 14 touchdowns in 14 games before suffering the broken ankle in his first season with the Eagles.

Owens said he remains close with former agent David Joseph, who represented him his entire career, and who helped extricate him from the 49ers. Joseph negotiated the current contract with the Eagles.

The contract included a $10.3 million signing bonus. Over the first three years of the deal, it makes Owens one of the highest paid wide receivers in league history. Owens is scheduled to earn a base salary of $3.25 million for 2005.

Owens said he and Joseph spoke at length about the split and conceded it was painful, and added that he also spoke with Reid to explain his reasons for new representation.

"It's like I told Andy, I wasn't out there looking all over the place for a new agent, but it just happened," Owens said. "It was a business decision, that's all, and it was a decision I felt like I wanted to make. I guess it would be like a couple that's been married for a long time and then, all of a sudden, getting divorced. But me and Dave, we're still very strong friends. Our business [arrangement] has changed, [but] our personal relationship hasn't.

"That's the truth. But I know that, when it comes to me, people are going to believe what they want to believe, you know?"

Eagle fan can spin this any way he wants, but this is a shot at the team leader in McNub.

TO has also not ruled out missing minicamp at the end of the month.

Owens said he fully intends to be back with the Eagles in 2005, but was noncommittal about whether he would attend the team's minicamp at the NovaCare Complex the weekend after the April 23-24 NFL draft.

"At this point, I don't have a clue about anything like that," he said.

CLICK HERE for the rest of Bob Brookover's phone interview

TO is following the "let's screw up the chemistry on my team" playbook step by step

Redskins Rule · Post by **Redskins Rule** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:25 am

Geez....and some people thought Arrington's statement was bad. At least Arrington didn't make fun of Ramsey or any other player on the team. TO is....well, TO. At least he'll play hard.

Primetime42 · Post by **Primetime42** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:57 am

I just knew I'd find that Pastabelly article in this thread.

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:15 pm

He must be talking about McNabb. I mean, it's not like Owens would know McNabb had his bell rung and Pinkston cramped up and left the game for the second half. Right?

Primetime42 · Post by **Primetime42** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:39 pm

Hey, maybe he was too busy flapping his bird-wings to notice. :lol: