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die cowboys die wrote:

jru37726 wrote:Can u all imagine what Peyton Manning will do against this secondary? And i think they have a bye week before as well. Please tell me their bye week is not next week.

Colts 57, Redskins 17

I wouldnt doubt 57....and Indy comes off their bye week that game as well....i think we are on the bye week schedule circuit.....what an injustice!

Who knows........

Maybe Santana can catch a 5 yd pass and run 60 yds to the house to make everyone think Brunell is ok now.

Or...maybe Clinton can catch a 2 yd shovel pass and run 80 for a TD so that it again, pads the 8 cars stats.......

Oh wait.....maybe Brunell can sling the ball his farthest ....25 yds....into double coverage....and we will get lucky that we have Santana Moss on our team and he might come down with it and run the other 50 yds to the hizzie.............

Dont you all get it!!! Brunell is not our only prblem but it would solve alot to sit him down and let him mentor #17.

brunell is terrified of getting hit. did you see how many times eli stuck in there, took the big hit, but threw the ball for a big play? brunell gets a defender within two feet of him and he tucks the ball and goes to a knee. half the sacks he got, all he had to do was step up, side step and throw. Like any other GOOD quarterback would do.

also, the giants secondary jumped on our passes every-single-time we threw the ball...they know brunell can't throw a ball further than 20 yards, so anytime a receiver made a break, the corner would b-line for the ball. so why didn't we, or why don't we do more pump and go's?

if we rush just our front four, you better believe that every quarterback in the league will have at least eight seconds to throw the ball...no d-line pressure at all today

and i really don't even want to talk about how i feel about our defensive secondary right now cause if i did i'd get carpal tunnel. all i'll say is this...kenny wright looks so bad, i MIGHT rather have ahmad carrol in his place...no bueno

why would they do more pump and go's? The only time they tried it Lloyd caught his first and only pass of the year (vs.Jags) for 40 yds.....they only do things more than once that dont work..(i.e. WR screens)

U couldnt say it much better Jeremy

reggiebrooks4life wrote:wow, how quick the tides turn. last week brunell is the toast of the town and now, hes getting the boo birds. Lets just face the facts here. We got beat in all phases of the game. My biggest disappointment was in the defense though. 19 points does not seem like much, but when you give up drives that like, you deserve to lose. Our offense wasn't great, but they didn't blow the game with fumbles and penalties

I agree with you, but I think that Brunell critics weren't praising him in the past two weeks as much as they were simply being quiet. Brunell supporters obviously had more to talk about, as well.

Now that I think about it, I'm not feeling too bad about the road loss in NY, as this means ticets wil be cheaper to come by for next week's home game.

Of course, I just remembered, I'l be outta town.......DOh!!!!

All I can say is WTF. Openend the season up with a mediocre games vs the Vikings definatly winnable, but to many mistakes and conservative offence, ok, then Dallas, worst game I had seen in many years. Offence, defence everything, ST was ok thought.

Houston was domination, Nark Brunell actually looked like a QB for the first time since last years NYG game at FEDEX in December.

Next on to Jacksonville, not as great as it was thrilling, still mistakes, bad penalty's and a glaring 10 point lead vanishing in the Fourth quarter, but great play in OT bring us back to .500.

Now after today, 2 steps backwards to the dallas game, inept offence, defence with wholes all over, no blitzing, nothing very flat performance. So what is the problem here, Is in Brunell, the line, is Shawn Springs really the difference? Joe Gibbs, Al Saunders, Greg Williams?

After looking like things were coming together in recent weeks we get this performance, In a little bit of a whole now 2 games behind Philly.

Which team shows up to play Tennessee?

Im sure we are in store for along week?

Ill be back tommarrow for some monday morning quarterback.

redskingush wrote:
Which team shows up to play Tennessee?

To be honest, I dont care so far this week. Maybe Ill feel better but this teams issue run really deep. Its deeper than Mark, the line, or defense...
Its something that at this point that can't be cured any time soon imo. What am I reffering to? Im reffering to the way of operation of this organization which I have never been a fan of.


How does a team come out "flat"? How can a NFL team with only 16 games in a season come out flat as a pancake? This isnt baseball or the NBA, you dont have a large margin for error. You're getting paid millions of dollars to play a childs game, its a divisional game and you play like a bunch of chumps.

0-3 in the conference, 0-2 in the division, we're really playing ourselves out of any tie-breaker situations which means we have to win one more game than the rest of our competition... if the field is going to be tied at 10 games, that means we have to win 11 (9 of our last 11)... at the vary least we have to win 8 of our last 11, if none of the losses come in the division... hate to say it, but we're obviously the 4th best team in the division at this point... no more margin for error to make it to the post season...

USAFSkinFan wrote:0-3 in the conference, 0-2 in the division, we're really playing ourselves out of any tie-breaker situations which means we have to win one more game than the rest of our competition... if the field is going to be tied at 10 games, that means we have to win 11 (9 of our last 11)... at the vary least we have to win 8 of our last 11, if none of the losses come in the division... hate to say it, but we're obviously the 4th best team in the division at this point... no more margin for error to make it to the post season...

you've got it exactly, USA... we will most likely lose any tiebreaker situation for a wildcard, so we'd have to find a way to win the division. doesn't seem likely.

can we go 9-2 the rest of the way?

...

no.
game over! bye bye brunell. time to groom campbell for next year.

I hate to say it, but Tenn. played Indy to within a point yesterday, and given how our guys were mailing it in, next week's game looks like it's actually a contest now, and not a formality like we all thought at the beginning of the season. Remember last year when we handed a present to the Raiders? This team needs to start getting serious right now.

Mursilis wrote:I hate to say it, but Tenn. played Indy to within a point yesterday, and given how our guys were mailing it in, next week's game looks like it's actually a contest now, and not a formality like we all thought at the beginning of the season. Remember last year when we handed a present to the Raiders? This team needs to start getting serious right now.

Yeah, you're right. Let's completely disregard the home field advantage at FedEx, and declare the Titans (the TITANS!!!!????) the winners right now.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Mursilis wrote:I hate to say it, but Tenn. played Indy to within a point yesterday, and given how our guys were mailing it in, next week's game looks like it's actually a contest now, and not a formality like we all thought at the beginning of the season. Remember last year when we handed a present to the Raiders? This team needs to start getting serious right now.

Yeah, you're right. Let's completely disregard the home field advantage at FedEx, and declare the Titans (the TITANS!!!!????) the winners right now.

Hey, you really don't want me to say nice things about this team. I said the Vikings game was an easy win (that was at the fabled Fed Ex field, remember?), and what happened there?!? I said the Giants were on the verge of implosion, and we'd take 'em in their house, and who won yesterday? Do you really want me to say we're going to destroy the Titans?

Mursilis wrote:

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Mursilis wrote:I hate to say it, but Tenn. played Indy to within a point yesterday, and given how our guys were mailing it in, next week's game looks like it's actually a contest now, and not a formality like we all thought at the beginning of the season. Remember last year when we handed a present to the Raiders? This team needs to start getting serious right now.

Yeah, you're right. Let's completely disregard the home field advantage at FedEx, and declare the Titans (the TITANS!!!!????) the winners right now.

Hey, you really don't want me to say nice things about this team. I said the Vikings game was an easy win (that was at the fabled Fed Ex field, remember?), and what happened there?!? I said the Giants were on the verge of implosion, and we'd take 'em in their house, and who won yesterday? Do you really want me to say we're going to destroy the Titans?

No need. I'll say it.

WE WILL DESTROY THE TITANS THIS WEEK!!!

The time for getting serious was yesterday, and we layed an egg. Cluck cluck. Instead of putting a nail in the struggling Giants coffin, we put that nail in ours.

The eagles are playing extremely well, and will likely win the division, barring injury to Mcnabb.

The Cowboys have over the next five games Houston, Giants, Panthers, Redskins, and the Cards. Even if we beat them, they are likely to go 4 and 1 through that stretch which will put them at 6-3.

We're already into a 5 in a row or we don't go situation now....and that game yesterday shows the unlikelyhood of this happening, because we actually had a defense last year.

There are 10 teams in the NFC that have better records right now, that means we are in 5th place for a stinking wild card, and a beast of a schedule for the second half. If we beat the Titans, will be 3-3 with the Colts, Cowboys and Eagles back to back. We lose next week, and it's time to start working out our rookie QB for next year.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Mursilis wrote:I hate to say it, but Tenn. played Indy to within a point yesterday, and given how our guys were mailing it in, next week's game looks like it's actually a contest now, and not a formality like we all thought at the beginning of the season. Remember last year when we handed a present to the Raiders? This team needs to start getting serious right now.

Yeah, you're right. Let's completely disregard the home field advantage at FedEx, and declare the Titans (the TITANS!!!!????) the winners right now.

we lost to the RAIDERS at home.

coached by NORV TURNER.

yes, the worst team in NFL history, the worst coach in NFL history.

and we lost despite the defense spotting us 7 points on lemar marshall's INT return for TD. that's because brunell sucked last year, too. oh, and gibbs made the same cowardly coaching decisions last year too.

huge changes need to be made. this absurdity can not continue any longer.

Does anyone else smell another "Fire Gibbs" thread on the way?

Does anyone else smell another "Fire Gibbs" thread on the way?

How about a hire a real GM thread instead. Let Gibbs do what he does best, coach, and fire Cerrato and bring in someone as a GM.

SkinzCanes wrote:

Does anyone else smell another "Fire Gibbs" thread on the way?

How about a hire a real GM thread instead. Let Gibbs do what he does best, coach, and fire Cerrato and bring in someone as a GM.

Wait, now it's personnel and the front office that's the issue?

Irn-Bru wrote:Wait, now it's personnel and the front office that's the issue?

YES!

die cowboys die wrote:

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Mursilis wrote:I hate to say it, but Tenn. played Indy to within a point yesterday, and given how our guys were mailing it in, next week's game looks like it's actually a contest now, and not a formality like we all thought at the beginning of the season. Remember last year when we handed a present to the Raiders? This team needs to start getting serious right now.

Yeah, you're right. Let's completely disregard the home field advantage at FedEx, and declare the Titans (the TITANS!!!!????) the winners right now.

we lost to the RAIDERS at home.

coached by NORV TURNER.

yes, the worst team in NFL history, the worst coach in NFL history.

Good thing we aren't playing the Raiders this weekend, then, right? Right??

Since we're about to get KILLED this week by the (Remember the) Titans, I suggest you not watch. Perhaps go to a nice pumpkin patch, or maybe get to the knitting you've been putting off for a few weeks, as we have NO CHANCE of beating the Super Bowl-bound Titans, at home, with our backs against the wall, and 90K+ strong cheering us on. No way whatsoever. Woe is us. Let's call Goodell and tell him we're not playing the rest of the games this year.

Better??

Did our CB's play?

Irn-Bru wrote:Wait, now it's personnel and the front office that's the issue?

I think so. I really do. Lets put aside my feelings on Adam A.

The fact that we spent way too much money again, threw away draft picks and did NOT properly address kicker and punter is crazy.

They knew from the get-go John wasn't going to do kickoffs, that should be a red flag.

Frosty has improved but again, he's inconsistent.

Id be less irritated if they brought in some quality talent and then made a decision and kept those 2.

Irn-Bru wrote:

SkinzCanes wrote:

Does anyone else smell another "Fire Gibbs" thread on the way?

How about a hire a real GM thread instead. Let Gibbs do what he does best, coach, and fire Cerrato and bring in someone as a GM.

Wait, now it's personnel and the front office that's the issue?

what was the reason for blowing up our secondary? i know some of those guys weren't especially great, but it's clear there was NO plan to replace them when they were let go. NO PLAN. we didn't even have rumph until a preseason trade!

i've been in favor of the vast majority of personnel decisions since gibbs has gotten here, but i questioned this in the offseason and it still makes no sense.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

die cowboys die wrote:

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Mursilis wrote:I hate to say it, but Tenn. played Indy to within a point yesterday, and given how our guys were mailing it in, next week's game looks like it's actually a contest now, and not a formality like we all thought at the beginning of the season. Remember last year when we handed a present to the Raiders? This team needs to start getting serious right now.

Yeah, you're right. Let's completely disregard the home field advantage at FedEx, and declare the Titans (the TITANS!!!!????) the winners right now.

we lost to the RAIDERS at home.

coached by NORV TURNER.

yes, the worst team in NFL history, the worst coach in NFL history.

Good thing we aren't playing the Raiders this weekend, then, right? Right??

Since we're about to get KILLED this week by the (Remember the) Titans, I suggest you not watch. Perhaps go to a nice pumpkin patch, or maybe get to the knitting you've been putting off for a few weeks, as we have NO CHANCE of beating the Super Bowl-bound Titans, at home, with our backs against the wall, and 90K+ strong cheering us on. No way whatsoever. Woe is us. Let's call Goodell and tell him we're not playing the rest of the games this year.

Better??

good lord, where did i (or anyone else) say ANY of that? sure, we should win, and we probably will, heck we'll probably kill the titans. but we are just reminding you all that we LOST TO THE RAIDERS AT HOME last year. anything is possible.

that is ALL we're saying.

Redskin in Canada wrote:Worst play by a Redskins secondary ever since I can remember watching our team play. Wright was lost, Rogers could wear sticky tape on his hands, Rumph got run over, Taylor was not there, Archuleta got blocked, and on and on and on.

Pathetic secondary. One can not have a good defense with only the front seven playing well.

The good thing is that it is OVER. We will welcome them back at home as we did last year.

I guess you forgot when Boomer Esiason threw for 522 yards against us...as a Cardinal. Much, much worse than this.