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Wrong. He has to win one of his own. Otherwise he is more of a loser than Marino was in his last game.
I love your hypocrisy. You brag about Turner riding Johnson's coat tails. Yet, can't show proof that his is great. Marino is looked at as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all times. Yet, you expect him to have a higher standard than Norv Turner does. Those super bowl rings are not his. They are Jimmy Johnson's

OK. Let me ask a question. Seeing as how the troll thinks that Super Bowl rings are what makes a player great.
Allow me to introduce a player who has 2 Super Bowl rings.
1 who played several years, and wouldn't make the Hall of Fame. Yet, according to the Troll. You ain't a winner unless you have a Super Bowl ring.
Would you consider Cliff Stoudt a winning NFL Quarterback. He does have 2 Super Bowl rings. His career starting after he left the Steelers was 4 games in 3 years for the Cardinals. 0-4
His record for the Steelers was 9 wins and 7 losses from the 80-83 seasons. But according to the troll. You are only a winner if you have a Super Bowl ring. This alone shatters that train of thought. And every time he comments. My reply will be to quote this thread.
Funny how Marino supposedly ain't a winner. Yet owned most of the quarterback records. Stoudt's best season he passed for 2553 yards, and only 12 td's yet 21 ints. Please troll. Tell all of us how Stoudt was a better quarterback than Marino.

Show me where he needs to win one on his own to validate what he already has?

insert final jeopardy theme here

OK. Let me ask a question. Seeing as how the troll thinks that Super Bowl rings are what makes a player great.
Allow me to introduce a player who has 2 Super Bowl rings.
1 who played several years, and wouldn't make the Hall of Fame. Yet, according to the Troll. You ain't a winner unless you have a Super Bowl ring.
Would you consider Cliff Stoudt a winning NFL Quarterback. He does have 2 Super Bowl rings. His career starting after he left the Steelers was 4 games in 3 years for the Cardinals. 0-4
His record for the Steelers was 9 wins and 7 losses from the 80-83 seasons. But according to the troll. You are only a winner if you have a Super Bowl ring. This alone shatters that train of thought. And every time he comments. My reply will be to quote this thread.

Notice how he can't answer the question cause he knows the answer is? there is
no place that validates his delusion, That Norv had to win 1 on his own, In order
to validate what he's clearly earned

so to answer his ignorant question

* Yes Stoudt is a winner by virtue of the fact he's won 2 rings, As Rothlisberger's
backup Stoudt, wasn't some clip board carrying tout barer, As this clown would like
to think he is. So here's a burning question and let's see if this time he can answer
the question instead of dodging it

* If the Cardinals didn't think highly of him, and didn't see him as a backup
with 2 rings, Then why would the Cardinals take a chance on him???

the answer awaits?

OK. Let me ask a question. Seeing as how the troll thinks that Super Bowl rings are what makes a player great.
Allow me to introduce a player who has 2 Super Bowl rings.
1 who played several years, and wouldn't make the Hall of Fame. Yet, according to the Troll. You ain't a winner unless you have a Super Bowl ring.
Would you consider Cliff Stoudt a winning NFL Quarterback. He does have 2 Super Bowl rings. His career starting after he left the Steelers was 4 games in 3 years for the Cardinals. 0-4 His entire starting record as a Cardinal in 3 years was 0 wins and 4 losses. Shows how much confidence the Cardinals had in him. Just 4 games in 3 years.
His record for the Steelers was 9 wins and 7 losses from the 80-83 seasons. But according to the troll. You are only a winner if you have a Super Bowl ring. This alone shatters that train of thought. And every time he comments. My reply will be to quote this thread.
Stoudt was Roethlessberger's back up. Let's see. Cliff Stoudt played for the Steelers until 1983. Big Ben was not born until March 2 1982. I wonder how Roethlessberger could have played for the steelers as a new born. Or even before he was born.
Yet supposedly I am the one who don't know nothing about football. I thought that Big Ben was drafted in the same draft that Eli Manning was drafted in. The 2004 draft. Not the 80 draft. Did they use a time machine to go back in time, and pluck him from what era? Or could it be that the troll once again shows how stupid he actually is? Roethlisberger played from 2004 to now. Stoudt played for the Steelers from 1977-1983. I am amazed that the Steelers have access to a time machine. I wonder if they sent Big Ben back to the 30's to help change their history. Or maybe they went and found out the game plan of every year that they played from 73- now. LOL

TexasCowboy wrote:Notice how he can't answer the question cause he knows the answer is? there is
no place that validates his delusion, That Norv had to win 1 on his own, In order
to validate what he's clearly earned

so to answer his ignorant question

* Yes Stoudt is a winner by virtue of the fact he's won 2 rings, As Rothlisberger's
backup Stoudt, wasn't some clip board carrying tout barer, As this clown would like
to think he is. So here's a burning question and let's see if this time he can answer
the question instead of dodging it

* If the Cardinals didn't think highly of him, and didn't see him as a backup
with 2 rings, Then why would the Cardinals take a chance on him???

the answer awaits?

I'm quoting the trolls comment that I already commented on. That way if he tries to edit it. He won't be able to. The only editing I did was make the typo so large that you can't miss it.

More lies and the typical dodging cause she knows she can't answer what
she clearly doesn't have an answer for

OK. Let me ask a question. Seeing as how the troll thinks that Super Bowl rings are what makes a player great.
Allow me to introduce a player who has 2 Super Bowl rings.
1 who played several years, and wouldn't make the Hall of Fame. Yet, according to the Troll. You ain't a winner unless you have a Super Bowl ring.
Would you consider Cliff Stoudt a winning NFL Quarterback. He does have 2 Super Bowl rings. His career starting after he left the Steelers was 4 games in 3 years for the Cardinals. 0-4 His entire starting record as a Cardinal in 3 years was 0 wins and 4 losses. Shows how much confidence the Cardinals had in him. Just 4 games in 3 years.
His record for the Steelers was 9 wins and 7 losses from the 80-83 seasons. But according to the troll. You are only a winner if you have a Super Bowl ring. This alone shatters that train of thought. And every time he comments. My reply will be to quote this thread.
Stoudt was Roethlessberger's back up. Let's see. Cliff Stoudt played for the Steelers until 1983. Big Ben was not born until March 2 1982. I wonder how Roethlessberger could have played for the steelers as a new born. Or even before he was born.
Yet supposedly I am the one who don't know nothing about football. I thought that Big Ben was drafted in the same draft that Eli Manning was drafted in. The 2004 draft. Not the 80 draft. Did they use a time machine to go back in time, and pluck him from what era? Or could it be that the troll once again shows how stupid he actually is? Roethlisberger played from 2004 to now. Stoudt played for the Steelers from 1977-1983. I am amazed that the Steelers have access to a time machine. I wonder if they sent Big Ben back to the 30's to help change their history. Or maybe they went and found out the game plan of every year that they played from 73- now. LOL

Spams for attention and has no clue as to what she is in fact spamming

OK. Let me ask a question. Seeing as how the troll thinks that Super Bowl rings are what makes a player great.
Allow me to introduce a player who has 2 Super Bowl rings.
1 who played several years, and wouldn't make the Hall of Fame. Yet, according to the Troll. You ain't a winner unless you have a Super Bowl ring.
Would you consider Cliff Stoudt a winning NFL Quarterback. He does have 2 Super Bowl rings. His career starting after he left the Steelers was 4 games in 3 years for the Cardinals. 0-4 His entire starting record as a Cardinal in 3 years was 0 wins and 4 losses. Shows how much confidence the Cardinals had in him. Just 4 games in 3 years.
His record for the Steelers was 9 wins and 7 losses from the 80-83 seasons. But according to the troll. You are only a winner if you have a Super Bowl ring. This alone shatters that train of thought. And every time he comments. My reply will be to quote this thread.
Stoudt was Roethlessberger's back up. Let's see. Cliff Stoudt played for the Steelers until 1983. Big Ben was not born until March 2 1982. I wonder how Roethlessberger could have played for the steelers as a new born. Or even before he was born.
Yet supposedly I am the one who don't know nothing about football. I thought that Big Ben was drafted in the same draft that Eli Manning was drafted in. The 2004 draft. Not the 80 draft. Did they use a time machine to go back in time, and pluck him from what era? Or could it be that the troll once again shows how stupid he actually is? Roethlisberger played from 2004 to now. Stoudt played for the Steelers from 1977-1983. I am amazed that the Steelers have access to a time machine. I wonder if they sent Big Ben back to the 30's to help change their history. Or maybe they went and found out the game plan of every year that they played from 73- now. LOL

Spamming attention whore ^^^^

OK. Let me ask a question. Seeing as how the troll thinks that Super Bowl rings are what makes a player great.
Allow me to introduce a player who has 2 Super Bowl rings.
1 who played several years, and wouldn't make the Hall of Fame. Yet, according to the Troll. You ain't a winner unless you have a Super Bowl ring.
Would you consider Cliff Stoudt a winning NFL Quarterback. He does have 2 Super Bowl rings. His career starting after he left the Steelers was 4 games in 3 years for the Cardinals. 0-4 His entire starting record as a Cardinal in 3 years was 0 wins and 4 losses. Shows how much confidence the Cardinals had in him. Just 4 games in 3 years.
His record for the Steelers was 9 wins and 7 losses from the 80-83 seasons. But according to the troll. You are only a winner if you have a Super Bowl ring. This alone shatters that train of thought. And every time he comments. My reply will be to quote this thread.
Stoudt was Roethlessberger's back up. Let's see. Cliff Stoudt played for the Steelers until 1983. Big Ben was not born until March 2 1982. I wonder how Roethlessberger could have played for the steelers as a new born. Or even before he was born.
Yet supposedly I am the one who don't know nothing about football. I thought that Big Ben was drafted in the same draft that Eli Manning was drafted in. The 2004 draft. Not the 80 draft. Did they use a time machine to go back in time, and pluck him from what era? Or could it be that the troll once again shows how stupid he actually is? Roethlisberger played from 2004 to now. Stoudt played for the Steelers from 1977-1983. I am amazed that the Steelers have access to a time machine. I wonder if they sent Big Ben back to the 30's to help change their history. Or maybe they went and found out the game plan of every year that they played from 73- now. LOL

same lame spam, same lame questions, from someone who couldn't win against
me then and sure as hell can't win against me now

TexasCowboy wrote:Notice how he can't answer the question cause he knows the answer is? there is
no place that validates his delusion, That Norv had to win 1 on his own, In order
to validate what he's clearly earned

so to answer his ignorant question

* Yes Stoudt is a winner by virtue of the fact he's won 2 rings, As Rothlisberger's
backup Stoudt, wasn't some clip board carrying tout barer, As this clown would like
to think he is. So here's a burning question and let's see if this time he can answer
the question instead of dodging it

* If the Cardinals didn't think highly of him, and didn't see him as a backup
with 2 rings, Then why would the Cardinals take a chance on him???

the answer awaits?

I'm quoting the trolls comment that I already commented on. That way if he tries to edit it. He won't be able to. The only editing I did was make the typo so large that you can't miss it.

attention whore

Let's look at who really was on the Steelers roster as quarterbacks from 77 - 83 shall we.
1977 Terry Bradshaw, Mike Kruzek, Neil Graff, and Taxi Squad player Cliff Stoudt
1978 Terry Bradshaw, Mike Kruzek, Cliff Stoudt
1979 Terry Bradshaw, Mike Kruzek, Cliff Stoudt
1980 Terry Bradshaw, Cliff Stoudt, Mark Malone
1981 Terry Bradshaw, Cliff Stoudt, Mark Malone
1982 Terry Bradshaw, Cliff Stoudt, Mark Malone (IR) Ben Roethlessberger was born on this year. No way was he on the Steelers roster
1983 Cliff Stoudt, Mark Malone, Terry Bradshaw (IR) Ben Roethlessberger was still an baby at this time
1984 Mark Malone, David Woodley, and Scott Campbell. Cliff Stoudt had moved on to the Birmingham Stallions of the USFL. Ben Roethlessberger was still a baby at the time.
In 1983 who the Steelers should have drafted was Dan Marino in the 1st round. Gabriel Rivera would have been there in the 2nd round.

I figured out how Roethlessberger was actually the starter, and not Bradshaw. Big Ben is actually Dr.Who . The Time lord. That is how He pulled that off.

^^^ got more waffles than a house of pancakes

TexasCowboy wrote:Notice how he can't answer the question cause he knows the answer is? there is
no place that validates his delusion, That Norv had to win 1 on his own, In order
to validate what he's clearly earned

so to answer his ignorant question

* Yes Stoudt is a winner by virtue of the fact he's won 2 rings, As Rothlisberger's
backup Stoudt, wasn't some clip board carrying tout barer, As this clown would like
to think he is. So here's a burning question and let's see if this time he can answer
the question instead of dodging it

* If the Cardinals didn't think highly of him, and didn't see him as a backup
with 2 rings, Then why would the Cardinals take a chance on him???

the answer awaits?

I'm quoting the trolls comment that I already commented on. That way if he tries to edit it. He won't be able to. The only editing I did was make the typo so large that you can't miss it. And if the Cardinals truly thought highly of Stoudt. He might have had more than 4 starts in 3 years.

What the idiot fails to understand is? ^^ teams can think highly of a player before he
even comes to camp or is initially traded/released, Stoudt whether they wanted him as
a starter/backup caught the eye of the coaching staff, who felt it was worth the gamble
to bring him in for a look without overly hurting themselves cap wise

all that aside Stoudt does have a ring which is more than he can say for any
player in Houston history, which gives him a looming advantage over the
others so thanks for failing yet again

carry on

TexasCowboy wrote:Notice how he can't answer the question cause he knows the answer is? there is
no place that validates his delusion, That Norv had to win 1 on his own, In order
to validate what he's clearly earned

so to answer his ignorant question

* Yes Stoudt is a winner by virtue of the fact he's won 2 rings, As Rothlisberger's
backup Stoudt, wasn't some clip board carrying tout barer, As this clown would like
to think he is. So here's a burning question and let's see if this time he can answer
the question instead of dodging it

* If the Cardinals didn't think highly of him, and didn't see him as a backup
with 2 rings, Then why would the Cardinals take a chance on him???

the answer awaits?

I'm quoting the trolls comment that I already commented on. That way if he tries to edit it. He won't be able to. The only editing I did was make the typo so large that you can't miss it. And if the Cardinals truly thought highly of Stoudt. He might have had more than 4 starts in 3 years.

Your spamming proves you can't win piss off

TexasCowboy wrote:Notice how he can't answer the question cause he knows the answer is? there is
no place that validates his delusion, That Norv had to win 1 on his own, In order
to validate what he's clearly earned

so to answer his ignorant question

* Yes Stoudt is a winner by virtue of the fact he's won 2 rings, As Rothlisberger's
backup Stoudt, wasn't some clip board carrying tout barer, As this clown would like
to think he is. So here's a burning question and let's see if this time he can answer
the question instead of dodging it

* If the Cardinals didn't think highly of him, and didn't see him as a backup
with 2 rings, Then why would the Cardinals take a chance on him???

the answer awaits?

I'm quoting the trolls comment that I already commented on. That way if he tries to edit it. He won't be able to. The only editing I did was make the typo so large that you can't miss it. And if the Cardinals truly thought highly of Stoudt. He might have had more than 4 starts in 3 years. And, I'm gonna rewatch the Super Bowl 13, and Super Bowl 14 dvd just to make sure that it was Terry Bradshaw, and not Big Ben Roethlessberger playing in those 2 games.

^^ someone needs a waaaabulance ^^^