See, also, the case of Wilbur Marshall, free-lancer under Buddy Ryan and out-of-position often under Richie Petibon.
Marshall, however, learned to play within the system and starred after a couple of sloppy seasons. Arrington didn't.
So, how many "sloppy seasons" did Arrington have? I seem to remember him doing quite well until he got put in the dog house, under Williams. He was a beast under Lewis. Two arrogant minds don't mesh very well. Frankly, I thinkk we all know that Williams was the more arrogant one, and also the wrong one, IMHO. USE the talent that you have, not waste it.
If Williams was the more "arrogant" one, why is it Lavar 5 years later still in the media pointing fingers in other directions? Also, if you don't remember Lavar's bone head plays you're looking back with a selective memory because that was always an issue. Besides being out of position, remember the game he cost us by taking his helmet off on the field and drawing an auto 15?
Also his leaving may not have just been Gibss, remember the dumb fart calling the owner, the guy who paid him, a liar? Dumb was his middle name. Pointless dumb on and off the field. Obviously nothing's changed and Snyder, Gibbs and Williams share that they are not responsible for his overt stupidity.
I'll type slowly, as it is OSU/Michigan week and some people are bound to be testy...
Maybe Williams is happy that he's employed? How many times do you remember Williams running his mouth anyway? Just because he doesn't runs his mouth doesn't mean that he isn't one arrogant SOB. Arrington has always been a talker. Why would he change that now? I also don't ever recall me saying that he(LaVar) was bright, just not as arrogant as Williams.
Also, of course I remember bad plays by LaVar. I can probably pick out bad plays by everyone (in recent memory). It doesn't mean that they had a "sloppy season." It means that they made mistakes. That was my point. Thanks for the post though.
I'll type super slow. Why exactly are we typing slow? The point was that years later everything that happened to him was STILL everyone's fault but his. That's not arrogance? OK. Let's go with that.
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So, the only thing in my post that you cover is typing slowly? Well done. I have no idea where you thought that that was my point (the years later thing) or even chose to address it as such. If that was YOUR point, so be it. No need to quote me with a completely different take on a totally different subject.
Lavar stop complaining and get in shape. Get in shape make a comeback and that will prove all the nay sayers wrong.
Anyhow, I still dont care what he said. They are just words. We have guys like Vick, Pacman, and other thugs around the league doing crimes and all. Why should I care about what someone says?
Lavar stop your yapping and hit the stinking weight room while you still have some kind of youth left.
JSPB22 wrote:LaVar had great talent, but he freelanced too much. The coaches wanted him to play within the system, but he would often just ignore that, and do whatever he wanted anyway. This often caused him to be out of position, and cost us games. He had a ton of heart, and loved being part of the Redskins, but he just wouldn't accept that he had to take care of his responsibilities on the field. Maybe Gregg Williams should have changed his scheme to allow LaVar to freelance, a la his hero Lawrence Taylor, but Gregg was too headstrong to do that, and LaVar was too headstrong to change either. Gibbs always supported his coaches, so when LaVar started making trouble about the situation, he felt he had no choice but to get rid of LaVar. This latest squabble is just sour grapes on LaVar's part, and it's really kind of sad.
While I don't totally disagree...I do think the whole freelancing label stuck with Lavar unfairly. I see so many people defending JC because of the number of OC he's had, well Lavar had to deal with the same thing. He had a great year under Lewis and he played one of the best games I've seen a Skins LB play in the playoff game in Tampa.
Marvin's system gave him more of an opportunity to freelance with limits. I remember him being out of position during Marvin's tenure too, though. Against Carolina, we were ahead 17-13 late in the 4th quarter. Carolina had a 4th and 1 from their own 38. Delhomme was under pressure and threw a dump-off to Stephen Davis that went for 25 yards. Had LaVar kept his position, Davis would have been dropped for a loss, and we could have run out the clock. Anyway, I said Williams probably should have changed his scheme to play to LaVar's strengths, but when he had to choose between the two, Gibbs sided with Williams.
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JSPB22 wrote:LaVar had great talent, but he freelanced too much. The coaches wanted him to play within the system, but he would often just ignore that, and do whatever he wanted anyway. This often caused him to be out of position, and cost us games. He had a ton of heart, and loved being part of the Redskins, but he just wouldn't accept that he had to take care of his responsibilities on the field. Maybe Gregg Williams should have changed his scheme to allow LaVar to freelance, a la his hero Lawrence Taylor, but Gregg was too headstrong to do that, and LaVar was too headstrong to change either. Gibbs always supported his coaches, so when LaVar started making trouble about the situation, he felt he had no choice but to get rid of LaVar. This latest squabble is just sour grapes on LaVar's part, and it's really kind of sad.
While I don't totally disagree...I do think the whole freelancing label stuck with Lavar unfairly. I see so many people defending JC because of the number of OC he's had, well Lavar had to deal with the same thing. He had a great year under Lewis and he played one of the best games I've seen a Skins LB play in the playoff game in Tampa.
Marvin's system gave him more of an opportunity to freelance within limits. I remember him being out of position during Marvin's tenure too, though. Against Carolina, we were ahead 17-13 late in the 4th quarter. Carolina had a 4th and 1 from their own 38. Delhomme was under pressure and threw a dump-off to Stephen Davis that went for 25 yards. Had LaVar kept his position, Davis would have been dropped for a loss, and we could have run out the clock. Anyway, I said Williams probably should have changed his scheme to play to LaVar's strengths, but when he had to choose between the two, Gibbs sided with Williams.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
