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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:47 am
by skinsfan#33
Redskin in Canada wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:They could always wait a week or two and then pick up Collins. . . :shock:
Brunell will be considered and he could still give them a decent season. But Culpepper is in the driver seat to play there.


That would mean Culpepper would be the back up to Joey Harrington for the second year in a row on two different teams! How many times does that happen?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:47 am
by Fios
skinsfan#33 wrote:
Redskin in Canada wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:They could always wait a week or two and then pick up Collins. . . :shock:
Brunell will be considered and he could still give them a decent season. But Culpepper is in the driver seat to play there.


That would mean Culpepper would be the back up to Joey Harrington for the second year in a row on two different teams! How many times does that happen?


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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:35 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Falcons offensive strategy revealed, their most used play is.....






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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:48 pm
by Irn-Bru
Handing the ball to the defense while the offensive line pouts?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:50 pm
by Fios
Irn-Bru wrote:Handing the ball to the defense while the offensive line pouts?


I assumed they had simply cropped Air Bud out of the photo

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:59 pm
by Irn-Bru
Fios wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:Handing the ball to the defense while the offensive line pouts?


I assumed they had simply cropped Air Bud out of the photo



I was under the impression that he had signed long-term with the Kennedy Junior High "Purple Giants." I guess he sold out and asked for the trade after all.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:06 pm
by BnGhog
:shock: Cool. Howd you know that, T.J. Duckett must have given us the play book when was here.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:15 pm
by Smithian
Redskin in Canada wrote:Or better yet, give some time to an animal shelter. My kids volunteer a few hours every week in a cat shelter not too far from home. I donate every year to keep it running. How about -doing- something positive for animals instead of just expressing righteous but empty indignation in a public board against one of our own at a low point of his public standing? :idea:
I have before.

BnGhog wrote:My question is how can the NFL tell if he "violated league policies" If they don't know if he is guilt or innocent?
First off, the indictment is very precise and the grandy Jury has a 95% success rate.

Second off, the NFL is saving themselves. If they let him go, there would be hundreds of protestors around the Falcons training camp and most likely NFL HQ.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:08 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Ruh-Roh, Obligatory Vick picture!

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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:30 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Vick is as close as he can get to fried toast.

Co-defendant: Vick bankrolled dogfighting ring
NFL.com wire reports

RICHMOND, Va. (July 30, 2007) -- One of Michael Vick's co-defendants pleaded guilty Monday to his role in a dogfighting conspiracy he says was financed almost entirely by the Atlanta Falcons quarterback.

As part of a plea agreement, Tony Taylor pledged to fully cooperate with the government in its prosecution of Vick and two other men accused of running an interstate dogfighting enterprise known as "Bad Newz Kennels" on Vick's property in rural Surry County.

"The 'Bad Newz Kennels' operation and gambling monies were almost exclusively funded by Vick," a summary of facts supporting the plea agreement and signed by Taylor states.


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Rest of the article HERE.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:49 am
by REDEEMEDSKIN
skinsfan#33 wrote:Did anyone here that the Falcon's were trying to trade for Brunell?

My friend said he heard it on ESPN radio. I doubt there is any chance the rumor is true.

Beside Gibbs would never let Brunell go.


I'm the biggest Brunell loyalist, and even I'm confounded by this rumor.

I'm not sure whether this says more about Brunell's skills or Joey Harrington's lack of them.

Any word on this juicy rumor?

- TRO

*I'll go on the record and say: Keep Brunell. Blast the "Falcuns".

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:30 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
CNN.COM IS REPORTING THAT THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT IS REPORTING THAT VICK HAS ACCEPTED A PLEA DEAL

Looks like Vick will be serving some Hard Time!!!

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:54 pm
by BossHog
NFL.com has a big red 'breaking news' banner on their site as well, but as of yet - no info (3:00pm).

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:07 pm
by BernieSki
No real news until Aug 27th.

RICHMOND, Va. - Michael Vick’s lawyer said Monday the NFL star will plead guilty to federal dogfighting conspiracy charges, putting the Atlanta Falcons quarterback’s career in jeopardy and leaving him subject to a possible prison term.

The offense is punishable by up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, although federal sentencing guidelines most likely would call for less.

“After consulting with his family over the weekend, Michael Vick asked that I announce today that he has reached an agreement with federal prosecutors regarding the charges pending against him,” lead defense attorney Billy Martin said in a statement.

“Mr. Vick has agreed to enter a plea of guilty to those charges and to accept full responsibility for his actions and the mistakes he has made. Michael wishes to apologize again to everyone who has been hurt by this matter.”

Vick’s plea hearing will be Aug. 27, Martin said.

Vick is charged with conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiracy to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture.

Martin’s announcement came as a grand jury that could add new charges met behind closed doors. Prosecutors had said that a superseding indictment was in the works, but Vick’s plea likely means he will not face additional charges.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20350573/

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:13 pm
by Cappster
Vick's career should be over which is an unfortunate event. This is a lesson that has cost him MILLIONS of dollars. Now he will put into a ring (jail) and have to fend for himself.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:16 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Cappster wrote:Vick's career should be over which is an unfortunate event. This is a lesson that has cost him MILLIONS of dollars. Now he will put into a ring (jail) and have to fend for himself.


He'll most likely go to a celeb prison and I wouldn't be shocked to see a team pick him up once he gets out.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:19 pm
by Countertrey
Chris do you honestly believe the Skins can get that inexchange for Brunell, or are you simply setting high conditions for a trade, in order to keep him in DC?


I suspect he won't be doing "hard" time... more likely in one of those Federal Resort... er... excuse me... Rehabilitation Facilities. Besides, he still has the cash to purchase all the posse he needs.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:50 pm
by Irn-Bru
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Cappster wrote:Vick's career should be over which is an unfortunate event. This is a lesson that has cost him MILLIONS of dollars. Now he will put into a ring (jail) and have to fend for himself.


He'll most likely go to a celeb prison and I wouldn't be shocked to see a team pick him up once he gets out.



I agree on both counts. He will put in his time in prison and in the meantime make a PR campaign about his changed life (ESPN may be boycotting him now, but they will eat up interviews and specials near the time of his return). He may change on the inside, too.

But, the point is that in 2 years (more likely for his actual time served than 3 years; it could even be less than 2) he will be a 29-30 year old quarterback who is still very athletic and will likely be hungry for another chance in the NFL. At that point, teams will have QBs comparable to the quality level of Brooks Bollinger, Aaron Brooks, and Rex Grossman. Vick will get another roster spot in the NFL (and perhaps another big paycheck after a year or two). If he wants it badly enough.

For those hoping that Vick will be tortured in prison in the same way that he tortured dogs, you might be out of luck. Like CLL said, he could very well end up in a celeb prison, and secondly, the guy is jacked and won't have any problems making influential friends in prison.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:36 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Irn-Bru wrote:I agree on both counts. He will put in his time in prison and in the meantime make a PR campaign about his changed life (ESPN may be boycotting him now, but they will eat up interviews and specials near the time of his return). He may change on the inside, too.

But, the point is that in 2 years (more likely for his actual time served than 3 years; it could even be less than 2) he will be a 29-30 year old quarterback who is still very athletic and will likely be hungry for another chance in the NFL. At that point, teams will have QBs comparable to the quality level of Brooks Bollinger, Aaron Brooks, and Rex Grossman. Vick will get another roster spot in the NFL (and perhaps another big paycheck after a year or two). If he wants it badly enough.

For those hoping that Vick will be tortured in prison in the same way that he tortured dogs, you might be out of luck. Like CLL said, he could very well end up in a celeb prison, and secondly, the guy is jacked and won't have any problems making influential friends in prison.
A sad but very likely indictment of the US legal system. Sad but true, justice is -not- equal for all.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:38 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Time to grab some popcorn and head of to the official Falcons Board....

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:17 pm
by SkinsFreak
Chris Luva Luva wrote:He'll most likely go to a celeb prison


True. Vick has committed a federal offense and will be sentenced in a federal court. I saw a documentary about how federal prisons, such as Leavenworth, aren't nearly as tough as state penitentiary's or county jails. Vick will end up spending 18 months in a country club ... heading up a new gambling ring. :lol:

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:54 pm
by SkinsJock
I understand that there are "reports" that when he is available again there will be a number of teams that will try and sign him :shock:

I would be very surprised if the Redskins were in that "market" and that is fine with me :lol:

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:24 pm
by Jake
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/09/ ... ng-points/

So much for sincere. Here's Vick's notes for all those who believed he meant what he said.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:33 am
by JansenFan
I'm not sure how writing yourself a note (or having someone else write it) makes a difference in sincerity. I don't know whether he was sincere or not, but if I had one shot at making a statement of that magnitude, I'd sure as heck write down the important things I wanted to talk about. Heck, every week on the B. Lloyd show I write down little 1-3 word phrases to help me remember to cover the things I want to cover.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:00 am
by Jake
JansenFan wrote:I'm not sure how writing yourself a note (or having someone else write it) makes a difference in sincerity. I don't know whether he was sincere or not, but if I had one shot at making a statement of that magnitude, I'd sure as heck write down the important things I wanted to talk about. Heck, every week on the B. Lloyd show I write down little 1-3 word phrases to help me remember to cover the things I want to cover.


If you're apologizing for something, you should know what your apologizing for. You shouldn't have to have a reminder. That was one of my points.