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Prowl33 wrote:

oj wrote:Gruden is getting better, I am not sold on him but we could have worse. Lots worse.
Since this thread is wandering, I wonder why McVeigh is up in the booth? And, is that a quarterback coach seen talking to Cousins on the sidelines?

I think Mcvay liked the booth better in preseason, and after the 0-2 start he moved up there and we are 4-0 since. I'm sure you can't attribute it all tof that, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it

But up there he can't here me screaming at him to run the damn ball.

SkinsJock wrote:I'd love to get to 6-2 but I wonder how the fans and media will feel if we are at 6-6 but are still playing well ...

It would be ugly and tough rightfully so. I can see 1-3 in a tough stretch but four straight losses just isn't a good thing. It's the NFL, not a solid Vanderbilt or Mississippi State playing Alabama, Texas A&M, Florida, and Tennessee where they can play well but just don't have a shot.

I look at the remaining schedule and see 10-6. I want to be excited but these are the Redskins and I still have images of 2006, 2008, and 2013 where the Skins were supposed to be pretty solid coming off a good year and it didn't happen for a variety of reasons. This team is arguably better coached from top to bottom than any of those team so I am confident. And the talent is pretty solid. If the Redskins can hit 10 or 11 wins, heck even 9 again, after last season then I'm ready to say Jay Gruden is our best coach since Gibbs I and that McCloughan and Allen have finally fixed this franchise. Sustained success is key.

If Cousins comes out of the off week looking like second half 2015 Kirk Cousins then all bets are off and start thinking a very big win number.

we just won 4 straight and could win 6 - even with the team playing well, it's possible we lose 4 of the next 6

we started off this season looking like we could maybe win 8 or 9 - I think that's about where we are

We might get to 10 but that means we're going 6-4 in the next 10 and I don't see that

it's not just because of Cousins or the HC or the DC - it's a combination of factors like lack of depth, coaching and QB

You never know! Six games in a lot of things that we would expect or believe about the league are proving untrue. Players get injured - Big Ben, teams under perform like Green Bay. Six weeks ago I would have chalked up the Bengals game next week as a pretty certain loss. That team is reeling at 2-4 right now. I don't know if we'll beat them but I feel like we have a chance every week at least.

I'll take that.

I love that we could be at 6-2 - just hoping that everyone understands that we could play well and still end up at 8-8 or 9-7

this franchise needs to resolve some questions this season and then go forward from that

it's all good - I'm loving how much better the O line is playing now that we've gotten rid of those deadbeats

SkinsJock wrote:we just won 4 straight and could win 6 - even with the team playing well, it's possible we lose 4 of the next 6

we started off this season looking like we could maybe win 8 or 9 - I think that's about where we are

We might get to 10 but that means we're going 6-4 in the next 10 and I don't see that

it's not just because of Cousins or the HC or the DC - it's a combination of factors like lack of depth, coaching and QB

What 5 or 6 teams are we going to lose against? Packers have huge issues offensively and defensively and haven't beat 1 good team. Panthers and cards look awful as of now. Bears are on their 3rd string qb and looked awful before that. Bengals are decent but nothing to get excited about. We have won 4 straight against philly, we can handle the giants. Dare I say the 2 only daunting challenges are the Vikings and Cowboys.

Not to say that we only lose 2 more, but it is POSSIBLE we only lose 2 more. It would take a pretty epic melt down for us to lose 5 or 6

The Bengals are a decent 2-4. Not saying they're a bottom feeder team, but to your point, that's a team we should expect to compete against.

I agree with you about the Vikings and Cowboys. Panthers and Cardinals are both still dangerous teams IMO, but those games don't look as daunting as they did a few week ago.

Prowl33 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:we just won 4 straight and could win 6 - even with the team playing well, it's possible we lose 4 of the next 6 - we started off this season looking like we could maybe win 8 or 9 - I still think that's about where we are

We might get to 10 but that means we're going 6-4 in the next 10 and I don't see that

... It would take a pretty epic melt down for us to lose 5 or 6

why? going 5-5 is not a "meltdown" - this is the NFL, anything can happen ...

I'm just wondering how tolerant the fans and media will be if we play well and lose 5 of the next 10 - especially if we get to 6-2

at the beginning of the season, most of us thought that we were a 8 or 9 win team

we've won 4 straight and could win 6 - I just don't see this team competing against the better franchises - we're not deep enough

we go 5-5 these next 10 .... 9-7 is a good season for this team that still has a lot of areas to address

my point is only that if we go 6-2 and end up 9-7 with the team playing well, there will be a lot of pissed off fans

SkinsJock wrote:at the beginning of the season, most of us thought that we were a 8 or 9 win team

we've won 4 straight and could win 6 - I just don't see this team competing against the better franchises - we're not deep enough

we go 5-5 these next 10 .... 9-7 is a good season for this team that still has a lot of areas to address

my point is only that if we go 6-2 and end up 9-7 with the team playing well, there will be a lot of pissed off fans

One of our strengths right now is our depth. We can compete with every team we face this year, Minnesota is the hardest, but if you look at all the teams they have beat, and the scores in which they have won by, you can't just roll over on that game either.

It is probably more possible we go 10-6 than finish 8-8 or below at this point.

Prowl33 wrote:One of our strengths right now is our depth. We can compete with every team we face this year, Minnesota is the hardest, but if you look at all the teams they have beat, and the scores in which they have won by, you can't just roll over on that game either. It is probably more possible we go 10-6 than finish 8-8 or below at this point.

"one of our strengths right now is our depth" ... really?

"we can compete with every team we face" ... true - but we need to be really up to win 5 of the next 9

you really think "It is probably more possible we go 10-6 .."? ... really? how do you see that?

IMO, the secondary was not as good without Josh Norman, what do you think? is it possible our O line can work without Trent?

how do you feel about our depth along both lines?

I'll wait ....

BUMP

big chance to go up 5-3 before the bye ....

Saturday October 22 ...

Prowl33 wrote: We can compete with every team we face this year, Minnesota is the hardest, but if you look at all the teams they have beat, and the scores in which they have won by, you can't just roll over on that game either.

It is probably more possible we go 10-6 than finish 8-8 or below at this point.

so - now were at 4-3-1 - you're like a lot of fans here - completely delusional - look at the remaining schedule

are you freaking kidding me - there's no way we can get to 10 wins if we can't find a way to score points when we get in the red zone

Seriously... shut up already.

You're never one to call anyone on here delusional man... as you cheer every week for Kirk to fail. Piss off

8 games to go - I'm going to be really impressed if we can win 6 of those like some here think

just keep kidding yourselves - I'd be V happy if we can find a way to win 9

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Seriously... shut up already.

You're never one to call anyone on here delusional man... as you cheer every week for Kirk to fail. Piss off

do you think we're winning 6 of the last 8?

anyone that still thinks it's "more possible" we win 6 of the next 8 to get to 10 wins as predicted just doesn't have a clue

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Seriously... shut up already.

You're never one to call anyone on here delusional man... as you cheer every week for Kirk to fail. Piss off

SkinsJock wrote:do you think we're winning 6 of the last 8?

anyone that still thinks it's "more possible" we win 6 of the next 8 to get to 10 wins as predicted just doesn't have a clue

I don't disagree with your math or logic, but why the need to post such a comment? So the guy feels its likely the team will win six games. Big freaking deal.

The team could go 6-2 down the stretch. Could go 2-6. I'm glad if fans are feeling optimistic about it.

I'm as hopeful as anyone but posting "It is probably more possible we go 10-6 than finish 8-8 or below at this point .." is just wishful thinking and certainly not based on what we are seeing on the field

before the season began many of us knew we were winning 8 or 9 games this season ... if we were lucky
at this point, we could win 12 but from what I've seen so far that seems to be a bit unrealistic

hopefully, everyone gets a lot out of the bye week and we come out looking a lot better in the last 8 games

GO SKINS

it's worth noting that each week teams we see teams performing way above and way below their capabilities ...

while some of the teams we are scheduled to play have looked so good they also have looked bad at times too

there are 16 games scheduled and you don't really know which team is going to show up and play better each and every week

we might end up at 4-11-1 or 12-3-1 ... I am confident we'll see a competitive product on the field each of the next 8 games

thanks to our FO - we really are a greatly improved unit from what we saw on the field in 2014

GO SKINS

SkinsJock wrote:it's worth noting that each week teams we see teams performing way above and way below their capabilities ...

while some of the teams we are scheduled to play have looked so good they also have looked bad at times too

Feeling differently about the Vikings after watching that game last night? lol.

Its such a crazy league. Aside from playing the Patriots, it seems like anything can happen each week. I feel bad for anyone who gambles on these games regularly. Would drive me nuts.

^^ +1 That's the thing ...


this is the OP - optimism is one thing - this is just stupid

Prowl33 wrote:What a game against philly. Score didn't show it but we dominated them on both sides of the field. I know a lot of you probably don't like getting ahead, like Kirk always says 1 game at a time... but it's interesting to look at the remaining schedule.

Oct 23 @DET 1:00-FOX
Oct 30 @CIN 9:30-FOX
Bye
Nov 13 MIN 1:00-FOX
Nov 20 GB 8:30-NBC
Nov 24 @DAL 4:30-FOX
Dec 4 @ARI 4:25-FOX
Dec 11 @PHI 1:00-FOX
Dec 19 CAR 8:30-ESPN
Dec 24 @CHI 1:00-FOX
Jan 1 NYG 1:00-FOX

Now I believe we can handle Detroit and Cincinnati, Vikings are easily the best team in the nfc right now... Packers seem beatable, but you can never count out Rodgers. The cow pukes are gonna get it ... Arizona and Carolina used to look like the hardest games on our schedule, now we should win those, chicago is a joke, leaving the eagles who we have won 4 in a row against now, and the giants who aren't impressive at all.

Honestly, I see us ranging at BEST 12-4 and worst 9-7. Would of never predicted that at the beginning of the year... but looking at our schedule, it's possible we only lose 2 more games.

Chicago's a joke according to Prowl33, but they just beat the Vikes who only 2 weeks ago were "the best in the NFC"

looking at our schedule with 8 games to go - we could go 1-7 and I'm not sure which week is the 1

it's not that we're a bad team or anything but ...

SkinsJock wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Seriously... shut up already.

You're never one to call anyone on here delusional man... as you cheer every week for Kirk to fail. Piss off

do you think we're winning 6 of the last 8?

anyone that still thinks it's "more possible" we win 6 of the next 8 to get to 10 wins as predicted just doesn't have a clue

To answer your question first... yes. Of course I do. Possible? Of course it's possible!! Plausible? Kind of unrealistic, not comfortable betting my house on it- but absolutely possible.

So yes I think we CAN win 6, or more accurately 11!, in a row. In fact, we pretty much had 6 straight in the bag had we closed out the last two weeks after dominating every area of the game. So don't act like its entirety impossible for this team to peal off 6 straight.

My biggest issue was you calling fans on here who have hope delusional. We ALL hope and pray our skins can pull off a great second half of the year, despite knowing the cards are stacked against us. While it's known that you and "The FO" are on close speaking terms... even you don't KNOW what will or won't shake out.

Anyway, it's HTTMFRALLDAY ERADAY

I agree - anything is possible, look at what the Dolphins did to the Steelers recently - all I'm pointing out is that anything can happen
the good news for us is that each week we see teams not playing as well as they are capable and the players seem to be buying into the fact that they can only control what they do and that everyone is accountable

on paper it looks like a really tough schedule - the motto should be "we only have to play well in the next game"

from 4-2 we have gone 1-1-1 - so I guess, 12-3-1 is still in play