It's NY Giants week

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

... In intellectual circles that's known as "plagiarism."

boy oh boy - just love it when someone thinks it's time to show off ...

btw - this is a web site for Redskins fans to share and vent - this is not a place to come to have an "intellectual discussion"

I know what the site is. Thanks. I also know it would be nice if you had your own thoughts once in a while instead of simply parroting what others have said as though you came up with it first.

By the way, there are some here who enjoy intellectual discussion. Just because it isn't your forte doesn't mean you should speak for everyone.

Anyway, this is as far as I'm going with this unless it's moved to Smack.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

The same as I tell my team...on to the next game! I don't let a couple of numbers on a scoreboard on any given weekend determine or define our enitre season!

That's right. Even an 0-8 start leaves a mathematical possibility of going .500 for the season. 8-8 was a reasonable prediction when the season began. It's far too early to write the season off.

[DEHog]

The same as I tell my team...on to the next game! I don't let a couple of numbers on a scoreboard on any given weekend determine or define our enitre season!

That's right. Even an 0-8 start leaves a mathematical possibility of going .500 for the season. 8-8 was a reasonable prediction when the season began. It's far too early to write the season off.

You know me, I just want meaningful games in December!!

[Deadskins]

I liked this discussion better the first time I heard it, when I wrote about it several days ago. Nothing like someone who takes your thoughts and ideas and posts them as though they were an original thought. In intellectual circles that's known as "plagiarism."

It's plagiarism to discuss the upcoming game with the G-strings because you posted on it several days ago?

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

It's plagiarism to discuss the upcoming game with the G-strings because you posted on it several days ago?

I'm just busting someone's chops because his opinions are always copied directly from the opinions of others. If he's ever posted an original thought I've not seen it.

[SkinsJock]

B&GF has obviously mistaken me for someone that gives a damn about what he thinks or posts - most of the time I don't even look at his posts because I really am not interested in trying to figure out whether he's serious or not about the subject at hand

he has made it very clear what he thinks about me and my posts so I really don't get engaged - what's the point


GO SKINS - I'd like it a lot more if Cousins has a great game ....

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

So, about the Giants game ...

I'd love to see an effective running game since it would allow the Skins to eat more clock on offense and keep the defense off the field. I think they need 25 or more rushing attempts in this game, even if that means getting Robert Kelley in the game, which probably should have happened before now.

I'm highly concerned about the ability of the secondary to cover the Giants receivers, especially given the lack of a consistent pass rush thus far. Norman has been burned by Beckham before. Breeland is playing like he forgot how to play. Phillips is playing the slot, at least at game start. It was Dunbar who played well against the Giants last season, so perhaps he sees the field.

The run defense has been terrible but I'd still rather see the Giants run the ball effectively than pass it effectively. If the game becomes a shootout the Redskins aren't good at scoring points.

I hate to call this game a "must-win" but going 0-3 overall and 0-2 in the division would be an early nail in the coffin. Hopefully, they are not conservative.

It would help if they would eliminate the dumb penalties. They've been called for some questionable ones but they've also committed some just plain stupid ones.

[Deadskins]

So, about the Giants game ...

I'd love to see an effective running game since it would allow the Skins to eat more clock on offense and keep the defense off the field. I think they need 25 or more rushing attempts in this game, even if that means getting Robert Kelley in the game, which probably should have happened before now.

I'm highly concerned about the ability of the secondary to cover the Giants receivers, especially given the lack of a consistent pass rush thus far. Norman has been burned by Beckham before. Breeland is playing like he forgot how to play. Phillips is playing the slot, at least at game start. It was Dunbar who played well against the Giants last season, so perhaps he sees the field.

The run defense has been terrible but I'd still rather see the Giants run the ball effectively than pass it effectively. If the game becomes a shootout the Redskins aren't good at scoring points.

I hate to call this game a "must-win" but going 0-3 overall and 0-2 in the division would be an early nail in the coffin. Hopefully, they are not conservative.

It would help if they would eliminate the dumb penalties. They've been called for some questionable ones but they've also committed some just plain stupid ones.

Agreed, on all counts.

[SkinsJock]

interesting that we can find a way to win despite all that 'insight' from BG&F ... why is it that I love it when that happens ....

giants have 3 TDs on 4 possessions and we're down 21-9 after 3 possessions on offense - then we allow 2 FGs the rest off the game

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

So, about the Giants game ...

I'd love to see an effective running game since it would allow the Skins to eat more clock on offense and keep the defense off the field. I think they need 25 or more rushing attempts in this game, even if that means getting Robert Kelley in the game, which probably should have happened before now.

I'm highly concerned about the ability of the secondary to cover the Giants receivers, especially given the lack of a consistent pass rush thus far. Norman has been burned by Beckham before. Breeland is playing like he forgot how to play. Phillips is playing the slot, at least at game start. It was Dunbar who played well against the Giants last season, so perhaps he sees the field.

The run defense has been terrible but I'd still rather see the Giants run the ball effectively than pass it effectively. If the game becomes a shootout the Redskins aren't good at scoring points.

I hate to call this game a "must-win" but going 0-3 overall and 0-2 in the division would be an early nail in the coffin. Hopefully, they are not conservative.

It would help if they would eliminate the dumb penalties. They've been called for some questionable ones but they've also committed some just plain stupid ones.

23 rushing attempts, fewer than I expected but I also didn't expect two starting offensive linemen to go down in the game. Kelley did get a few carries but he seemed like he was running impatiently and couldn't keep his feet under his body.

The secondary did struggle at times and did give up 350 passing yards, 121 of those to Odell Beckham, but they kept him out of the end zone. Dunbar did play and he only made two huge plays, the interception in the end zone and the 4th down reception.

The Skins were once again bad at scoring points, settling for five Dustin Hopkins field goals instead of touchdowns. At least Hopkins is solid.

Philadelphia beat Pittsburgh and Dallas is beating Chicago as I type this, so "must-win" wasn't wrong. They were not conservative. The Bruton interception was a good challenge and a bad ruling. The Dunbar 4th down play was gutsy.

The penalties were still a bit much but when they don't determine the outcome of a game it's easier to live with the non-call on the helmet-to-helmet hit on Matt Jones or the shoulder-to-helmet personal foul on Josh Norman.

[DaSkinz Baby]

Funny how no one is talking about how Baker cussed Barry out. I understand a win is a win but let's all be honest here, The Redskins didn't win because of sound coaching on the defensive side. We won because Eli kept giving us the ball and that one interception in the endzone that wasn't called is nuts. I bet a testicle that if the Patriots or some other well respected team did that, it would be a interception. I also am starting to really dislike Sean McVay his fade calls in the red zone are retarded, you call it over and over to a receiver over 6 foot but then call the play to a 5'8 smurf? If they are doubling Reed you can't go jumbo package with Vernon Davis and Niles Paul and Reed and throw a sland to Paul or Davis? I still think that the longer Barry is employed here the more of a laughing stock we remain. Joe Barry is the worse DC in the NFL point blank.

[Irn-Bru]

A Joe Barry led defense going against Beckham, Cruz and that rookie WR that is putting up great numbers. I can also see Donnell lighting us up again. I see 3 picks and a fumble coming out of Cousins. We might rush 8 times cause Sean and Jay are arrogant assclowns that still want to prove that their number 1 pick is the offensive rookie of the year. Sorry we are playing in New York too. Eli is going to surgically cut our balls off....

[DaSkinz Baby]

A Joe Barry led defense going against Beckham, Cruz and that rookie WR that is putting up great numbers. I can also see Donnell lighting us up again. I see 3 picks and a fumble coming out of Cousins. We might rush 8 times cause Sean and Jay are arrogant assclowns that still want to prove that their number 1 pick is the offensive rookie of the year. Sorry we are playing in New York too. Eli is going to surgically cut our balls off....

I am man enough to admit I was wrong, Eli was typical Eli after Chris Baker sacked him. Craven's made the play as he should have. I am glad we won but Joe Barry is still the worst DC in the NFL. I see it looked like Chris Baker was about to stomp his ass on the sidelines. I see no one is talking about that. Glad to see Baker gives a .......But let me guess since we won everything is great right??

[Irn-Bru]

I am man enough to admit I was wrong, Eli was typical Eli after Chris Baker sacked him. Craven's made the play as he should have. I am glad we won but Joe Barry is still the worst DC in the NFL. I see it looked like Chris Baker was about to stomp his ass on the sidelines. I see no one is talking about that. Glad to see Baker gives a .......But let me guess since we won everything is great right??

No, everything isn't great.

But you were about as wrong as it was possible to be. That's something.


And once more, in slow mo:

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Are the officials not allowed to flag unsportsmanlike conduct on the sidelines? Beckham is such a child.

[DaSkinz Baby]

I am man enough to admit I was wrong, Eli was typical Eli after Chris Baker sacked him. Craven's made the play as he should have. I am glad we won but Joe Barry is still the worst DC in the NFL. I see it looked like Chris Baker was about to stomp his ass on the sidelines. I see no one is talking about that. Glad to see Baker gives a .......But let me guess since we won everything is great right??

No, everything isn't great.

But you were about as wrong as it was possible to be. That's something.


And once more, in slow mo:

What game were you watching cause I wasn't that wrong. Eli threw for 350 yards that is surgical. It took Baker to jump in Barry's ass to wake him up. So no I don't think I was as off as you claim. Barry is a joke and we can also thank McAdoo and his conservative calls. He should have been been putting the ball down the field, Sterling and Cruz were seriously under used. This game is a perfect example of being lucky, cause we are far from good.

[riggofan]

I am man enough to admit I was wrong, Eli was typical Eli after Chris Baker sacked him. Craven's made the play as he should have. I am glad we won but Joe Barry is still the worst DC in the NFL. I see it looked like Chris Baker was about to stomp his ass on the sidelines. I see no one is talking about that. Glad to see Baker gives a .......But let me guess since we won everything is great right??

No, everything isn't great.

But you were about as wrong as it was possible to be. That's something.


And once more, in slow mo:

Love that Beckham clip.

This "Joe Barry is still the worst DC in the NFL" crap is what drives me crazy about certain Redskins fans. The Eagles just completely dismantled the Steelers yesterday 34-3. Why isn't Keith Butler the worst DC in the NFL? The Jets have one of the most talented defensive rosters in the league, but lost 24-3 to the Chiefs yesterday. Why isn't Kacy Rodgers the worst DC?

I don't know if Barry is good or bad. What I do know is that we don't have a great defensive roster. We didn't have a very good d-line to start the season, and we've lost guys to injury. We lost two starting DBs yesterday. And yet the defense still hung in there and found a way to make some plays to win the game.

I'm sorry but if you're blaming the defensive coordinator for the state of our defense right now, just do us all a favor and punch yourself in the face.

[DaSkinz Baby]

I am man enough to admit I was wrong, Eli was typical Eli after Chris Baker sacked him. Craven's made the play as he should have. I am glad we won but Joe Barry is still the worst DC in the NFL. I see it looked like Chris Baker was about to stomp his ass on the sidelines. I see no one is talking about that. Glad to see Baker gives a .......But let me guess since we won everything is great right??

No, everything isn't great.

But you were about as wrong as it was possible to be. That's something.


And once more, in slow mo:

Love that Beckham clip.

This "Joe Barry is still the worst DC in the NFL" crap is what drives me crazy about certain Redskins fans. The Eagles just completely dismantled the Steelers yesterday 34-3. Why isn't Keith Butler the worst DC in the NFL? The Jets have one of the most talented defensive rosters in the league, but lost 24-3 to the Chiefs yesterday. Why isn't Kacy Rodgers the worst DC?

I don't know if Barry is good or bad. What I do know is that we don't have a great defensive roster. We didn't have a very good d-line to start the season, and we've lost guys to injury. We lost two starting DBs yesterday. And yet the defense still hung in there and found a way to make some plays to win the game.

I'm sorry but if you're blaming the defensive coordinator for the state of our defense right now, just do us all a favor and punch yourself in the face.

Excuse me, if your consistently in the lowest category in terms of stats and ranking then you blame your coaching staff. I mean isn't that common sense? If you don't do your job then you get fired right? Or does your company employ people that are incompetent? Can I also bring up Joe Barry's 0-16 record as DC in Detroit? Or the fact that the Redskins could have hired Vic Fangio or Wade Phillips. Can I also say that Jim Schwartz is known for being a damn good DC, he just sucked at being a HC. Perhaps you need to punch yourself in the face for the lack of commom sense. I mean come on man doesn't common sense apply or the fact that Chris Baker had to go to the sideline and curse that imbecile out not mean anything to you?

[SkinsJock]

let's give some credit to the defense - the giants only managed 2 FGs in the second half

and

the coaches and players found a way to end up winning a game

it's all good for another week

btw - Monday morning - CBS Sports showed the giants as being 3-0 and us at 0-3

[riggofan]

let's give some credit to the defense - the giants only managed 2 FGs in the second half

and

the coaches and players found a way to end up winning a game

it's all good for another week

btw - Monday morning - CBS Sports showed the giants as being 3-0 and us at 0-3

I just think we have to be realistic about them. It wasn't a good defensive roster to start the season, and now they're significantly beat up. I give the defense huge credit for hanging in there yesterday.

[Irn-Bru]

let's give some credit to the defense - the giants only managed 2 FGs in the second half

And it should have been only one, since the refs denied us an obvious INT in the end zone.

[Irn-Bru]

What game were you watching cause I wasn't that wrong. Eli threw for 350 yards that is surgical. It took Baker to jump in Barry's ass to wake him up. So no I don't think I was as off as you claim. Barry is a joke and we can also thank McAdoo and his conservative calls. He should have been been putting the ball down the field, Sterling and Cruz were seriously under used. This game is a perfect example of being lucky, cause we are far from good.

I hate to break it to you, but in the NFL throwing for 350 yards is pretty common. If you think Eli surgically removed our D's balls yesterday, you are beyond help. Might as well admit you a homer on the Giants bandwagon.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

let's give some credit to the defense - the giants only managed 2 FGs in the second half

And it should have been only one, since the refs denied us an obvious INT in the end zone.

The defense doesn't deserve any credit. It gave up 27 points and is ranked 30th overall in points allowed.

Individual players do deserve credit. Without Dunbar and Cravens (Bruton got screwed) the Skins lose that game.

That performance doesn't win many games.

It won that one because Eli is back to being Eli.

The defense wasn't stopping anything until Cravens made that play.

[DaSkinz Baby]

What game were you watching cause I wasn't that wrong. Eli threw for 350 yards that is surgical. It took Baker to jump in Barry's ass to wake him up. So no I don't think I was as off as you claim. Barry is a joke and we can also thank McAdoo and his conservative calls. He should have been been putting the ball down the field, Sterling and Cruz were seriously under used. This game is a perfect example of being lucky, cause we are far from good.

I hate to break it to you, but in the NFL throwing for 350 yards is pretty common. If you think Eli surgically removed our D's balls yesterday, you are beyond help. Might as well admit you a homer on the Giants bandwagon.

It just seems to me that you are just a Redskin Homer that isn't able to see the proverbial forest for the tree's when it comes to the Redskins. The fact is the ranking and statistics tell you all you need to know about Joe Barry as if his 0-16 record as a DC in Detroit isn't more than enough of a reason to fire this dude. Yes you are right about NFL QB's throwing for 350 being common but what you fail to see or comprehend in most cases QB's throwing for 350 are yards made in garbage time when the score is out of reach. Eli did surgically cut some balls which is why Chris Baker cussed Barry out. The fact is perhaps Quinton Dunbar, Will Blackmon played better than Hall and Breeland also might have something to do with it. However if Eli didn't throw them picks we are 0-3 and most of us are screaming for Barry's head. Although you would most likely find some stupid reason as to why all is coming up smelling like roses.......

[Deadskins]

No, everything isn't great.

But you were about as wrong as it was possible to be. That's something.


And once more, in slow mo:

Love that Beckham clip.

This "Joe Barry is still the worst DC in the NFL" crap is what drives me crazy about certain Redskins fans. The Eagles just completely dismantled the Steelers yesterday 34-3. Why isn't Keith Butler the worst DC in the NFL? The Jets have one of the most talented defensive rosters in the league, but lost 24-3 to the Chiefs yesterday. Why isn't Kacy Rodgers the worst DC?

I don't know if Barry is good or bad. What I do know is that we don't have a great defensive roster. We didn't have a very good d-line to start the season, and we've lost guys to injury. We lost two starting DBs yesterday. And yet the defense still hung in there and found a way to make some plays to win the game.

I'm sorry but if you're blaming the defensive coordinator for the state of our defense right now, just do us all a favor and punch yourself in the face.

Excuse me, if your consistently in the lowest category in terms of stats and ranking then you blame your coaching staff. I mean isn't that common sense? If you don't do your job then you get fired right? Or does your company employ people that are incompetent? Can I also bring up Joe Barry's 0-16 record as DC in Detroit? Or the fact that the Redskins could have hired Vic Fangio or Wade Phillips. Can I also say that Jim Schwartz is known for being a damn good DC, he just sucked at being a HC. Perhaps you need to punch yourself in the face for the lack of commom sense. I mean come on man doesn't common sense apply or the fact that Chris Baker had to go to the sideline and curse that imbecile out not mean anything to you?

I'm just glad that Arena League Offense was able to score enough points to win the game.