Irn-Bru wrote:Bottom line: RG3 ‘was never willing to be friends with Kirk Cousins’
I listened to that on The Drive. C00ley said that Kirk would go out of his way to befriend any and everyone, and that he tried to do that with Griffin, but he did not like him from day one.
Griffin, McCoy and Cousins met for monthly prayer meetings along with their wives. The tensions were as ey says because McCoy referenced the tensions independent of eys report. It will a relief to the team this season that Griffin is gone.
Irn-Bru wrote:Apparently Coóley went into some of the behind the scenes of Robert as a locker room presence, and particularly his working and friendship relationship with Kirk: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc- ... k-cousins/
Bottom line: RG3 ‘was never willing to be friends with Kirk Cousins’
Same could be said that Kirk was never willing to be friends with Robert. But you got it the other way around in the article because Kirk and Chris ey are friends and have hung out on several occasions. The insight on the offensive line (not all) probably is true with Kory Lichtenstieger and former player Tyler Polumbus being friends with Chris too.
The real bottom line is our offensive line still had issues because we could not run the ball, and when we went against decent defenses struggled to pass protect.
Chris is a tight end not a quarterback he has some good points on many things but I never really took his words for the real deal on Kirk nor Robert. He never played the position.
Well it wasn’t just Kirk that Robert wasn’t friends with, but I don’t read a lot into it. Robert is a different dude, not bad, just different. It’s unfortunate because his personality doesn’t play well in a NFL locker room. As for the sacks, I just don’t think there is any disputing that, go back and look at the number of sacks he took per pass attempt and you’ll fine he was sacked at a greater rate than Colt and Kirk and most other in the NFL.
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OldSchool wrote:Griffin, McCoy and Cousins met for monthly prayer meetings along with their wives. The tensions were as ey says because McCoy referenced the tensions independent of eys report. It will a relief to the team this season that Griffin is gone.
Yeah I heard about that group and thought it must have meant that the rumors about tension were wrong.
woulda, coulda, shoulda - the fact remains this franchise was going nowhere with Dan Snyder 'managing' things
drafting Griffin and alienating the staff caused the idiotic owner to make a huge change and stop his interfering
Griffin is gone - all the best to him - I look forward to his proving the haters and doubters wrong in their assessments
it's time to look at the positives going forward
Scot will find a way to fix the O line and rebuild the defense
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Better hang on tight. Its amazing how much of this stuff comes out when guys are finally gone. I still expect Griffin will come out with his side of the story sooner or later.
“The offensive line did not like Robert Griffin,” ey said, via the Washington Post. “A lot of the receivers did not like Robert Griffin. The offensive line had a problem with Robert, because they were considered for a year-and-a-half or two years a terrible offensive line that couldn’t protect a quarterback. A lot of that isn’t true. A lot of that was Robert. A lot of the sacks were put on Robert. Want to believe it or not, they were, okay? Football-wise, they were: it was Robert. Robert never took [responsibility] for that,” ey said. “Robert continued to let his offensive line eat the blame. They don’t like it. They hate that, man. That kills them. Perception is the only thing an offensive line has, because 99 percent of people watching football have no idea what an offensive line’s doing. Receivers didn’t like playing with Robert, because they didn’t get the ball.”
ey is right about Washington’s linemen taking unfair blame: As we’ve pointed out before, Griffin took far more sacks than Kirk Cousins while playing behind the same offensive line.
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if anyone on that O line was any good at all, I wonder why only Trent Williams will still be here in 5 months
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
riggofan wrote:Better hang on tight. Its amazing how much of this stuff comes out when guys are finally gone. I still expect Griffin will come out with his side of the story sooner or later.
“The offensive line did not like Robert Griffin,” ey said, via the Washington Post. “A lot of the receivers did not like Robert Griffin. The offensive line had a problem with Robert, because they were considered for a year-and-a-half or two years a terrible offensive line that couldn’t protect a quarterback. A lot of that isn’t true. A lot of that was Robert. A lot of the sacks were put on Robert. Want to believe it or not, they were, okay? Football-wise, they were: it was Robert. Robert never took [responsibility] for that,” ey said. “Robert continued to let his offensive line eat the blame. They don’t like it. They hate that, man. That kills them. Perception is the only thing an offensive line has, because 99 percent of people watching football have no idea what an offensive line’s doing. Receivers didn’t like playing with Robert, because they didn’t get the ball.”
ey is right about Washington’s linemen taking unfair blame: As we’ve pointed out before, Griffin took far more sacks than Kirk Cousins while playing behind the same offensive line.
He would be ill-advised to do so, because the conversion would only escalate. The best thing he could do is to go somewhere and play lights out…that will shut up the masses!!
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Griffin is finally gone and has not played a meaningful down for a long time - Griffin is almost ancient history here
haters here and in the media just want to pile on - it's what they do
it's time to move on and look at what we've got as a result of STUPID Dan Snyder realizing he has no clue and bringing in Scot M as GM
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Nobody should be defending Griffin anymore than anyone should be piling on now that he's not here
it's over, Griffin is history - hopefully he shows that he can play QB in the NFL despite what haters think
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SkinsJock wrote:if anyone on that O line was any good at all, I wonder why only Trent Williams will still be here in 5 months
Did the Skins cut a bunch linemen or is that your expectation? I am hoping they draft another starter with their first or second round pick to strengthen the running game but I am not aware of house cleaning going yet.
I love how people keep saying Griffin is history let him go, move on, etc. C00ley was literally asked about this stuff the day Griffin was released. It was certainly relevant at the time.
StorminMormon86 wrote:I love how people keep saying Griffin is history let him go, move on, etc. C00ley was literally asked about this stuff the day Griffin was released. It was certainly relevant at the time.
you're a hater
PLUS there are a number of former players that have come out recently and said they do not agree with #47 ... this from C00ley
"He's the [bleeping] leader of this football team," C00ley said at the time. "I can honestly say that. He's so real. There's no B.S. This is who he is. I sit next to him in the team meetings, and there isn't a guy on the team he doesn't have a relationship with. Not one."
Maybe C00ley's just mad because he only caught one pass in 2012, which ended up being his final year in the NFL.
#47 is clearly showing that he's got no class at all
YOU LIKE THAT, YOU LIKE THAT ....
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
StorminMormon86 wrote:I love how people keep saying Griffin is history let him go, move on, etc. C00ley was literally asked about this stuff the day Griffin was released. It was certainly relevant at the time.
you're a hater
PLUS there are a number of former players that have come out recently and said they do not agree with #47 ... this from C00ley
"He's the [bleeping] leader of this football team," C00ley said at the time. "I can honestly say that. He's so real. There's no B.S. This is who he is. I sit next to him in the team meetings, and there isn't a guy on the team he doesn't have a relationship with. Not one."
Maybe C00ley's just mad because he only caught one pass in 2012, which ended up being his final year in the NFL.
#47 is clearly showing that he's got no class at all
YOU LIKE THAT, YOU LIKE THAT ....
I do like that Griffin got cut and now we can move forward with our QB. And I also like the fact that C00ley speaks the truth.
^^ "it takes one to know one" - Chris C is just making himself look like a two-faced bum ...
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
ey says because McCoy referenced the tensions independent of 
