ESPN Article Bashing Griffin

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:49 pm

And he had some great seasons in Tampa, too. He was the QB who led them to their first winning season. People seem to forget how bad the expansion Buccaneers were.

rskin72 · Post by **rskin72** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:17 pm

For me, great Redskin QB's are few in number....Baugh, Jurgy, maybe Theismann.....then we go to Ryp and Williams. Of course, one can debate this order....preferably over a cold one or two. I just hope that the current Skin QB will become the #1 QB in franchise history.

And I do remember how bad the old Bucs were....and they had great QB talent in Williams, Young..etc. and had other great players as well, but were just horrible somehow year after year. Maybe it was those stupid looking creamsicle uniforms that they wore back then....

StorminMormon86 · Post by **StorminMormon86** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:07 pm

I'm not saying what Williams did for this team wasn't great, just that the guy is overrated by Skins fans. I get the fact that he won a Superbowl, and kicked ass in it. But he was here for four years, and as a starter had a losing record. The guy should NOT EVER be on any top ten Skins QBs of all time lists, which he always seems to be. Do you think the Giants rank Hostetler on their top ten QBs of all time? Similar situation with Williams and Hostetler, IMO.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:24 pm

Timmy Smith still owns the record for the most rising yards in a SB but isn't considered by anyone to be one of the top rbs in Skins history. He isn't even considered on the top ten of Skins rbs.

He and Ricky Sanders were as much or more responsible for that sb win.

To me Timmy Smith = Doug Williams.

Neither should have jerseys in the stands of Fedex.

chiefhog44 · Post by **chiefhog44** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:48 am

rskin72 wrote:I read the article as well the other day.....and did not agree with many of the points.

First, I do not agree with the conclusion that RGIII has become a media diva. I have read no reports of him slacking off from rehab, from film study, from being a student of the game. Heck, he was even on time for the team picture. And, isn't he a team captain again? So that tells me that the guys in the locker room see the effort and dedication as well.

I classify the article as someone with an ax to grind with RGIII...or maybe it is with a black QB that the author expects to do more than just QB his team on Sundays.......much like that other mediot did last year when he questioned the "blackness" of RGIII.

The biggest divide I see in DC is between the two parties located in the capitol.....

As for our worst QB...god only knows how John Beck cannot be at the top of that long list.

I rooted for #11 and #17 during their respective times at the helm of the Redskins....though I have neither of their Jerseys. I do have my #10 jersey....and rotate that with my #7 and #9 jersey's to wear at the games.

ey was talking about this. The commercials he did was on his own time and never cut into his rehab time. Instead of watching TV and relaxing after work, he went and did the commercials. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with this.

He also pointed out that this writer calls Griffin a sell out. He's only out to improve his image. More about the commercial then the football. But by writing this kind of baseless article, isn't it the writer who's the sellout? The title doesn't even come close to describing what's in the article. He's coming up with anything with Roberts name on it just to turn some heads and sell some magazines and ultimately, make money on Robert. That's a sell out.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:43 pm

StorminMormon86 wrote:I'm not saying what Williams did for this team wasn't great, just that the guy is overrated by Skins fans. I get the fact that he won a Superbowl, and kicked ass in it. But he was here for four years, and as a starter had a losing record. The guy should NOT EVER be on any top ten Skins QBs of all time lists, which he always seems to be. Do you think the Giants rank Hostetler on their top ten QBs of all time? Similar situation with Williams and Hostetler, IMO.

I hear you talking... but I have no idea what your point is... much less your purpose in continuing. WTH, dude?

StorminMormon86 · Post by **StorminMormon86** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:08 am

skinsfan#33 wrote:Timmy Smith still owns the record for the most rising yards in a SB but isn't considered by anyone to be one of the top rbs in Skins history. He isn't even considered on the top ten of Skins rbs.

He and Ricky Sanders were as much or more responsible for that sb win.

To me Timmy Smith = Doug Williams.

Neither should have jerseys in the stands of Fedex.

THANK YOU

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:13 am

StorminMormon86 wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:Timmy Smith still owns the record for the most rising yards in a SB but isn't considered by anyone to be one of the top rbs in Skins history. He isn't even considered on the top ten of Skins rbs.

He and Ricky Sanders were as much or more responsible for that sb win.

To me Timmy Smith = Doug Williams.

Neither should have jerseys in the stands of Fedex.

THANK YOU

Doug Williams=Super Bowl MVP
Timmy Smith=/= Super Bowl MVP
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Timmy Smith=/= Doug Williams

Doug Williams' jerseys for everyone!!

StorminMormon86 · Post by **StorminMormon86** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:16 am

Says the guy with a #17 avatar.

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:17 am

StorminMormon86 wrote:Says the guy with a #17 avatar.

A. You're just now noticing this?
B. Point?

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:08 pm

Well, I say Doug Williams is better so there!!! =D>

Bishop Hammer · Post by **Bishop Hammer** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:14 pm

Deadskins wrote:I can see why he would think the way he does, though I don't necessarily agree with his conclusions, but when I got to this:

When he arrived in Washington last year, he was positioned as the racial bridge of a divided city, even though he had yet to say or do anything of great social significance (and still hasn't).

he lost any credibility he had. Why does it always have to be about race? Can't he just be a QB?

I agree. I never heard anything about him bridging any racial gaps. I'll be happy if he gets back to form.