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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:05 pm
by Countertrey
Chris Luva Luva wrote:mastdark81 wrote:I'm not saying that he wasn't a huge loss for us, but not as much as Orakpo. I disagree with that. Orakpo had more of an impact in my opinion with sacks and pressures. Orakpo does tend to play lackluster in the run, something Carriker does well but our secondary lacked the speed of Orakpo getting to the QB. Carriker simply doesn't have that speed to get there as quick. Infact Kerrigans sack numbers actually increased this year right? So it wasn't like Adam was the Justin Smith of the line.
I disagree. I think Rob Jackson had a more impactful season than Orakpo ever has. Sure, Rak is a above average rusher. But he has hands with no thumbs. Jackson was a game-changer and I can't remember one game where Rak changed the outcome of a game.
There have been at least two games (that I know of) in which 'rak drew holding calls that cost other teams a game... that counts. One was a Dallas game, though I cannot put a finger on dates.
Nobody gets held more than 'rak... he needs to learn to draw more attention to it, so he can get more of those calls. Orakpo is the more effective pass rusher, no doubt... but I won't have any objection to a three headed monster of Jackson, Orakpo, Kerrigan... That was the plan, anyway.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:08 pm
by frankcal20
If you can get all 3 on the field running some version of the 3/4, that could be a beastly defensive set.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:12 pm
by 1niksder
frankcal20 wrote:@MikeJonesWaPo: Redskins have released DeAngelo Hall, source says.
Rich Campbell @Rich_Campbell
Saves Redskins $8M in 2013 cap space. Least surprising name of the day
Let him test the market and see if we can bring back for less or someone better for a lower price.
Moss will be next... Redskins are about $1.5M following all of the week in moves and this
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:14 pm
by frankcal20
JLC is reporting that Skins are talking to Rep's for Moss & Carriker to restructure their deals. Would basically reduce their salary to guaranteed money lowering their cap hits.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:21 pm
by The Hogster
frankcal20 wrote:JLC is reporting that Skins are talking to Rep's for Moss & Carriker to restructure their deals. Would basically reduce their salary to guaranteed money lowering their cap hits.
These are all good moves. Carriker is not expendable. His presence on that right side is a big deal. With him and Orakpo returning, and with Jenkins a year off of knee surgery, the front 8 rotation is something to keep intact and build on.
I'm a D Hall fan, but his release makes sense as well. This draft is crucial.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:27 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Countertrey wrote:
There have been at least two games (that I know of) in which 'rak drew holding calls that cost other teams a game... that counts. One was a Dallas game, though I cannot put a finger on dates.
Nobody gets held more than 'rak... he needs to learn to draw more attention to it, so he can get more of those calls. Orakpo is the more effective pass rusher, no doubt... but I won't have any objection to a three headed monster of Jackson, Orakpo, Kerrigan... That was the plan, anyway.
Fair point but it's not as impressive IMHO. Why? Because Rak is leaving it up to a Zebra to give us the call. Jackson took the Zebras out of the equation and sealed the deal.
I think that the fact that we're even having this discussion goes to show that Rak isn't all that. We've been saying that Rak needs more moves for years now, at one point do we just realize that he's not gonna do it?
The Hogster wrote:I'm a D Hall fan, but his release makes sense as well. This draft is crucial.
Agreed.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:28 pm
by frankcal20
Just posted this in another thread but Carriker restructured his contract. Don't have terms yet but will post once I do.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:34 pm
by 1niksder
frankcal20 wrote:Just posted this in another thread but Carriker restructured his contract. Don't have terms yet but will post once I do.
\teying to do the same with Moss
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:59 pm
by gay4pacman
wouldnt be suprised if dhall is a redskin this year after its all said and done.