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Red_One43 wrote:Hey Cat,

Check back tomorrow night. We should know who is starting the game. I am interested to see what the poll shows when everyone knows who is starting.

But I also want to point out. Hightower was the announced starter on Sunday and he didn't play a down. Also, if Rex starts, he might be on a very short lease, so you game plan for Grossman and then Beck comes in early.

Like I said, I think this game is going to come down to strategy by both HC's and of course turnovers nad injuries will probably figure into it.

mrcatwalker wrote:Red__One, hot name but your offense isn't that at least not so far. I don't know much about the Giants this year but as far as I know, they have been banged up. On that note though the NFL put out a release that said teams will be fined for faking injuries so that is something to consider.

Red_One43 wrote:

mrcatwalker wrote:Red__One, hot name but your offense isn't that at least not so far. I don't know much about the Giants this year but as far as I know, they have been banged up. On that note though the NFL put out a release that said teams will be fined for faking injuries so that is something to consider.

True our O is not hot and Rex is spiraling downward with each game, but track his history, he always comes up with a game in which he looks like an All-Pro. Of course, he returns to his turnover machine self.

Look forward to see in this thread tomorrow after the QB is announced. Should be fun, bu tit doesn't matter to me, I believe that Good Rex will show up this Sunday and if he doesn't, he will be yanked much sooner than the 4th quarter. See ( Read) you tomorrow.

ATX_Skins wrote:Of course!

We have to get into a shootout though, that is how you beat them evidently.

tribeofjudah wrote:That's Mike Vick jr they have in Cam.... someone better "spy" him out.

ATX_Skins wrote:I should be nicer. I just really, really do not like pot stirring visitors.

mrcatwalker wrote:Ok ATX_Skins, I see you aren't a dead skin

SkinsJock wrote:

ATX_Skins wrote:Of course!

We have to get into a shootout though, that is how you beat them evidently.

There is possibly 1 or 2 fans here that are stupid enough to think the Redskins can even participate in a "shootout"

we have a chance at winning this game if we can keep the ball on the ground - we do not have a passing game

oue defense needs to keep their offense in check and our offense needs to run the clock and NEVER attempt a pass

SkinsJock wrote:I think it's stupid to think that this Redskins offense would be capable of being involved in a "shootout"

AND .. there are not many stupid fans here


In the first 4 games we were one of the best in the NFL in time of possession

we are NOT capable of scoring a lot of points if our offense keeps playing like we have

ATX_Skins wrote: .. I would just like to see an exciting team for once. We always play the "small ball" drag out kind of games. I don't think that is how to win anymore.

IMO in the next few years we need to work on a legit deep threat as well as a QB that can get the ball there (accurately).

mrcatwalker wrote:

tribeofjudah wrote:That's Mike Vick jr they have in Cam.... someone better "spy" him out.

I just hope Chud comes up with an offensive plan that doesn't require Newton to run at the goaline and I am getting tired of them running him on an option because teams are trying to lay the wood on Cam. He is young and full of energy but I want him to last throughout the season and many more. The Skins hit hard

mrcatwalker wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:That is a tough question for even homers like me, but here it goes.
If Rex plays, we still win. Rex played very well in the Giants game (110 rating) even though we couldn't run. Even though Rex is a turnover machine, he does have some games where he looks like an All-Pro. I thought he was due last week, but of course, I was wrong. I think he is due this week for the following reason. We got our tails whipped by Philly last year coming out of the bye week. We turned around and went to Tennessee and beat the Titans on their home field. History does sometimes repeat itself. We did get lucky in the Titan game and knocked Vince Young out and in came Collins? No, Opie himself - a rookie named Rusty. Our O line was decimated during that game, Dockery played. Heyer played guard, but we still ran on them (it helped that they were undersized on the D line - are you guys undersized?)

If Beck starts - I think Beck gives \us the best chance to win, because we don't have to pray that good Rex shows up. Beck brings that mobility to the table and is more careful with the ball. Beck is no Brady, but he is no Grossman either. Our Offense opens up and Carolina sees plays that they didn't game plan for.

I would be lying if I said that Cam Newton doesn't make me nervous. Our D has a history of not playing well against highly mobile QBs, but we contained Vick in the second half with the exception of a big play, so I think Cam will get a big play or two during the game, but we will contain him enough to win. Also, Cam should be on the lookout for Dirty 30 when he scrambles, he is known to knock a a QB or two out of the game. He got Vick temporarily last week and did it last year.


I am definitely concerned about Charles Johnson as a pass rusher. If Locklear is at LT, then he will need a lot of help.

To me, Carolina is like Philly in that they have a poor record, but they put up a good fight in every game. This is not a typical 1-5 team.

What will Carolina's game plan be? Stack the box? I believe that Shanny and Co will be ready for that this time. Why weren't they ready last time?
You got me!

As you see I got nothing definitive that our 3-2 team will go out and beat your 1-5 team.

I am like you, both teams have strengths and some glaring weakness. The coach with the best game plan and luck of the bouncing ball wins this game for their team. The Skins will bring on the intensity- they won more games on the road last year than at home. Don't know where Carolina is with intensity - are they frustrated or are they feeling that they are as good as any team. The played the Packers well - will they take the Skins lightly.

So regardless of who starts at QB for the Skins, we win this game for the same reason (We are capable of playing good football) we beat a team like the Giants who beat the Bills who beat the Eagles. I don't buy that stuff that the Giants were injured - they were injured against the Bills. Turns out the Cowboys weren't so weak as folks had been saying - darn near knocked off the Pats on their home turf.

I take back the notion your team hasn't played anybody becaue the Cowboys are ranked in the top 10 in offense and defense and y'all played them well. Even though they are a division team that still means a lot.

Good stuff, this is a tough call but the only reason why I say the Panthers will win is because the Redskins are struggling on offense mainly with passing. Cam will find a way to move the ball down the field and I say this because our offense mostly start drives at the 15 or under. Special teams isn't helping us out at all, but we haven't played a team with a top 10 defense so this will be a real test for the boys in electric blue.

If the Skins can't run the ball, they will have to rely mainly on defense to create turnovers to put y'all in good field position. Carolina has effectively silenced some good receivers such as Roddey White, Larry Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings but Jordy had a field day. Colston didn't do much for the Saints either but Graham was a cowboy out there. Who is the Skins tight end?

If you can get your tight end into action as well as your running backs you have a good chance to win because we are missing 2 key linebackers so there are mis-matches available if your personnel can monopolize.