Cerrato....Get outta here with THAT....!!!!

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:51 pm

Looking at this upcoming draft, I wouldn't mind either way if we drafted a QB or not. I happen to like Claussen a lot and think he will be a good NFL QB, but I have no problem going with JC for one more season as long as we get him help along the O-line and @ RB. Call me crazy, but I actually think we should use our first pick on a guy like CJ Spiller RB from Clemson and our second rounder on the best C available. If we do that along with signing the top FA Tackle (I believe Jordan Gross is out there) I think we will be better. I love CP, but I think his run in DC is over, and if that's the case we need a home run hitter. When was the last time a RB of ours scored on a 20+ yard run ?? Spiller may be the guy to go with.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:58 pm

PAPDOG67 wrote:Looking at this upcoming draft, I wouldn't mind either way if we drafted a QB or not. I happen to like Claussen a lot and think he will be a good NFL QB, but I have no problem going with JC for one more season as long as we get him help along the O-line and @ RB. Call me crazy, but I actually think we should use our first pick on a guy like CJ Spiller RB from Clemson and our second rounder on the best C available. If we do that along with signing the top FA Tackle (I believe Jordan Gross is out there) I think we will be better. I love CP, but I think his run in DC is over, and if that's the case we need a home run hitter. When was the last time a RB of ours scored on a 20+ yard run ?? Spiller may be the guy to go with.

Gross - I think signed a 4 year deal with Carolina. They used the tag on Peppers. But it was an issue in Charlotte last year.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:09 pm

We need to work on getting the offensive line back to being one of the best in the NFL - any back or QB is going to be better with a great offensive line - we should think about getting a winning QB in here too but Campbell, while he's certainly not going to win any games for you can still be a decent QB

It looks like we'll pick in the top 5 and I would not be against either a very good QB or a OT - IMO we need to address the line first this year but if we get a QB we will still need to make as much effort as possible to find offensive linemen

we are not going to suddenly make things right here and there is a lot of work to be done - if it's still the Snyder and Cerrato show it will just continue to be disaponting and nothing will really amount to much

did you see how badly the Browns have done with their top 3 picks since 2004 :shock:

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:22 pm

I think that Dan must be addicted to Vinny or something. He has to know he needs to part ways but just cant seem to do it. People have tried to help but Dan just can't get away.

SKINFAN · Post by **SKINFAN** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:23 pm

lol, why not bring in CJ spiller for an interview. He can replace Rock on KO returns and back up RB

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:33 pm

1) The Redskins, as you well know, might draft a quarterback. Reports indicate that Vinny Cerrato has already been to South Bend to scout Clausen this season. In that light, this question from Cerrato the media member was just tremendous.

"Now, evaluate yourself as a quarterback," he told Clausen. "What do you need to improve upon for the next level?"

"You know, obviously I have to improve my speed and my strength," Clausen said. "And just keep getting in the classroom and watching as much film as I can, and being more of a leader, on the field, off the field, and just be around my teammates and do anything I can to help the team win."

2) "Give me a scouting report on Golden Tate," Cerrato requested of Clausen.

See, this wasn't just information gathering at the QB position! It also allowed the Redskins to scout a wide receiver!
"Golden Tate. I think he's the biggest playmaker in college football and is gonna be a real big asset to a team in the NFL," Clausen said. "He's got great hands as a receiver, he's got to work on running routes, but at the same time every single time the ball's in his hands he's gonna make a play, make guys miss and ultimately score."

3) Turns out a lot of the highlights didn't actually involve Clausen speaking.

Like they were discussing the weather in South Bend, when Cerrato dropped this nugget.

"You know what I used to tell kids when I'd be recruiting them, Jimmy, because they'd ask me about the weather. I said, 'Oh, it's not that bad.' I said, 'It doesn't snow that much.' I would tell 'em, you know, we've got bowl practice, then you leave middle of December for bowl practice, then you go a warm place for a bowl, then you come back middle of January, school starts, and I said winter's over [laughter]. And it was just beginning, really."

Haha! What a jokester!

4) "Now I read where you get advice from Joe Theismann and Joe Montana, two ex-Notre Dame quarterbacks," Cerrato said. "What kind of advice do they give you?"

Now, bear in mind that Cerrato and Theismann are actually ESPN 980 co-workers. I hope to heavens that Theismann has Clausen on in coming weeks to ask what Cerrato has told him. Anyhow, here's his response.

"You know, they just talk to me like I'm one of their sons, and just tell me all the ins and outs of everything," he said. "I think the biggest thing those guys taught me on the field is just to take what the defense gives you and just check the ball down if nothing's down the field. You know, coming into Notre Dame I always thought that I needed to make a play down the field every single time I had the ball, but that's really not the case. You just want to keep the chains moving, keep getting first downs and at the end of the drive, you ultimately want to score. And they just talk a lot to me about mental preparation of the game. I'm really gonna be talking to both of those guys going into this process of the draft and down the road."

5) Cerrato actually promo'd the upcoming Clausen interview in the show's first segment.

"I've never spoken to Jimmy Clausen, so it'll be kind of fun to talk to him," he said. "He had an outstanding career at Notre Dame, and I read an article about Joe Theismann promoting him to go to the NFL the other day, so it'll be interesting to catch up on Notre Dame news with him."

Seriously, all general managers should do a show like this.

6) "Jimmy, what final are you getting ready to take today?" was Cerrato's first question.

"I'm getting ready to actually go meet one of my sociology professors in study session right now," Clausen replied.

"See that's one of the things, you've got to tell everybody that [at] Notre Dame, you don't get the easy classes, you've got to take all the hard classes and you've got to study, you've got to go to tutors, you've got to do all those things, correct?"

Yeah. Sociology. Brutal.

7) After the interview was over, Cerrato returned to the Charlie Weis factor, which they had discussed several times during the interview.

"I think playing for Charlie Weis will help him," Cerrato surmised. "And a lot of people will talk to Charlie about compare him to Brady Quinn, compare him to this and that, and what do they think of him. And the thing that he's got going for him, reading the articles, is Charlie's gonna be back in the NFL. And if it's with a team that needs a quarterback, then he may end up back with Charlie. So good luck to the Notre Dame guys."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/12/cerratos_interview_with_jimmy.html

The full interview can be found here:

http://espn980.com/audiovault/

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:37 pm

Weak - He just loves to hear himself talk. He's so conceded it's disgusting.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:39 pm

DEHog wrote:Ist not about who there're scouting its about who's scouting!!

I'm holding on to the hope that Cerrato will be handing his interview notes to the new GM next year.

I can dream, can't I?

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:38 pm

PAPDOG67 wrote:Looking at this upcoming draft, I wouldn't mind either way if we drafted a QB or not. I happen to like Claussen a lot and think he will be a good NFL QB, but I have no problem going with JC for one more season as long as we get him help along the O-line and @ RB. Call me crazy, but I actually think we should use our first pick on a guy like CJ Spiller RB from Clemson and our second rounder on the best C available. If we do that along with signing the top FA Tackle (I believe Jordan Gross is out there) I think we will be better. I love CP, but I think his run in DC is over, and if that's the case we need a home run hitter. When was the last time a RB of ours scored on a 20+ yard run ?? Spiller may be the guy to go with.

You can't draft a RB until you have the OL fixed. I mean you can, but it is a waste! RB give you 5-7 years of top level production. If you draft one to run behind our line in it's current state, then you are just peeinf in the wind! You feel all warm and nice for an instant and then you realize you just peed all over yourself.

QBs have a much longer self life and are not as line play dependant as RB and beside you can get a capable RB at just about any Kwicky Mart.

Yes, Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson would be a waste behind our line. You can't say the same for Breese, Manning, Farve, Rivers, or Brady.

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:01 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
PAPDOG67 wrote:Looking at this upcoming draft, I wouldn't mind either way if we drafted a QB or not. I happen to like Claussen a lot and think he will be a good NFL QB, but I have no problem going with JC for one more season as long as we get him help along the O-line and @ RB. Call me crazy, but I actually think we should use our first pick on a guy like CJ Spiller RB from Clemson and our second rounder on the best C available. If we do that along with signing the top FA Tackle (I believe Jordan Gross is out there) I think we will be better. I love CP, but I think his run in DC is over, and if that's the case we need a home run hitter. When was the last time a RB of ours scored on a 20+ yard run ?? Spiller may be the guy to go with.

You can't draft a RB until you have the OL fixed. I mean you can, but it is a waste! RB give you 5-7 years of top level production. If you draft one to run behind our line in it's current state, then you are just peeinf in the wind! You feel all warm and nice for an instant and then you realize you just peed all over yourself.

QBs have a much longer self life and are not as line play dependant as RB and beside you can get a capable RB at just about any Kwicky Mart.

Yes, Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson would be a waste behind our line. You can't say the same for Breese, Manning, Farve, Rivers, or Brady.

I agree with your wind metaphor. If we get a chance at Okung, which we probably will, and go for a Clausen or Spiller instead, I think I'll just throw in the towel. How many years of it futility will it take for the Skins to get the idea that you build your offense around your tackles?

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:36 pm

Agree, CH... if we have a shot at Okung, and don't take him... :explode:

Sir_Monk · Post by **Sir_Monk** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:55 pm

Countertrey wrote:Agree, CH... if we have a shot at Okung, and don't take him...

I have to agree with both of you. What really gets my goat here is, it's not like we are talking about the next Peyton Manning, the dude is a decent college QB, but not an overwhelming talent. This is all speculation at this point, but this guy Okung seems like a fantastic player at a position we desperately need to address.

A lot can happen between now and the end of the season and on into draft time, so I will just hope we make the right decision when it is our time to pick.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:15 pm

adding great talent would be helpful but we are not going to have a chance until a GM is making all the decisions about who coaches AND who plays

The better our pick the less likely we are to see a GM make it, in my opinion :cry:

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:30 pm

Countertrey wrote:Agree, CH... if we have a shot at Okung, and don't take him...

How much more hoopla and marketing advertising can one player or another make?

Because that is what the difference will be. Which player can be marketed better to the stupid fans so that they come back to the stadium and buy merchandise. What additional sponsors can be attracted ...

By the way, We have a new shut down corner ... Audi. :roll:

Have you noticed that the Redskins website looks every day more like a Saturday shopping mall than a football team?

This IS what it is about to this FO ... OUR pennies.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:25 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:This IS what it is about to this FO ... OUR pennies.

RIC do you feel this is really the primary motive of DS...I do rank it a close second to him ( by him I mean while he's calling the shot) wanting to win..The trinity for him would be winning the SB+ while calling the shots= $$$$.
We will find out who the owners are that have money at the top of their priorities..if they don't (and I have it from D. Snith himself that they won't) have a CBA in place next year there will be no cap...there will also be no floor...owner are mandated under the current CBA to spend $108 mil...with no CBA they will have no floor.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:08 pm

DEHog wrote:RIC do you feel this is really the primary motive of DS...I do rank it a close second to him ( by him I mean while he's calling the shot) wanting to win..The trinity for him would be winning the SB+ while calling the shots= $$$$.

His EGO and the MONEY are together. They are ONE and the SAME.

His ego fuels his greed for money and power. And greed for money and power fuel his ego.

Little Napolean syndrome. :wink:

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:34 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:
DEHog wrote:RIC do you feel this is really the primary motive of DS...I do rank it a close second to him ( by him I mean while he's calling the shot) wanting to win..The trinity for him would be winning the SB+ while calling the shots= $$$$.

His EGO and the MONEY are together. They are ONE and the SAME.

His ego fuels his greed for money and power. And greed for money and power fuel his ego.

Little Napolean syndrome.

With all the talk about boycotting here's a fact that is really hard to beleive. If the owners lock out in 2011 and there's no football..the owners stand to make more money :shock:

...because the TV contracts are guaranteed and they'd have no salaries to pay.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:16 am

Boycotting the team or by whatever means you choose to make a point is not really going to 'hurt' the owner financially - there is just too much guaranteed money - the only thing we can hope for is that Snyder might see the light - HOWEVER, this is virtually impossible given Snyder's incredible ego and the number of suck-ups around him that are making him believe he's almost there