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General Failure wrote:He must be talking about McNabb. I mean, it's not like Owens would know McNabb had his bell rung and Pinkston cramped up and left the game for the second half. Right?

Asked to whom he was referring, Owens laughed, then changed the subject.

air_hog wrote:TO is an idiot.

No matter what he says, he is all about ME ME ME ME.

I think TO is worse than Moss (Randy).

Sure Moss is an idiot as well, but Moss doesnt bag on his team like TO does.

All TO does is blame his team whether its McNabb, Garcia, or the O-Cordinator. It is never HIS fault they lost. HE couldnt have done anything else...

Now, I heard TO might have been joking, but none the less, SHUT UP TO

skins81 wrote:

General Failure wrote:He must be talking about McNabb. I mean, it's not like Owens would know McNabb had his bell rung and Pinkston cramped up and left the game for the second half. Right?

I don't think he was talking about Stinkston. (Who had a fine superbowl BTW - except for the cramping in the 3rd quarter) TO knew what he was implying. In the days following the game, people were talking about the lack of a 2 min drill by the Eagles, the "concussion" McNab must have suffered, Freddy Mitchell talking about McNab throwing up in the huddle, and Freely teling people McNabb was winded and maybe he should have been spelled by the coaching staff.
TO knew EXACTLY what his statement was implying.
He was even asked to clarify what he meant

Asked to whom he was referring, Owens laughed, then changed the subject.

Like I said before, people can spin it any way. But nothing good can come from this, and that's just fine by me.

1fan4ramsey wrote:Not to beat a dead horse but Mcnabb has a history of getting worked up and hyperventilating/throwing-up in the huddle during big games. He did it at Syracuse on the carpet during some big games as well, it was no concusion, just pressure.

Owens, however, did not deny the part of the TV report that said he was late to team meetings during the regular season and sometimes fell asleep, too.

"During the year, I was late," he said. "A lot of people were late to meetings. I lived in Moorestown, N.J., and it was a situation where I had to contend with traffic. I was new to the area. I didn't know the alternate route... so I was late."

And what about the naps during meetings?

"Ask any player in the NFL if they've ever fallen asleep in a meeting, and if they say 'no' they're not telling the truth," Owens said. "As long as you don't fall asleep on Sunday, that's all that matters."

Owens said he hoped his Philadelphia story has a happy ending.

"I love Philly," he said. "My obvious goal is to come back and play and help the team get back to the Super Bowl."

I WILL B BETTER THAN NEXT YEAR, WHEREVER, BELIEVE THAT!!!

I DN'T ENVISION MYSELF LEAVING, BUT I CN'T STAY WHERE I'M NT WANTED AFTER ALL THESE REPORTS R COMIN OUT DAILY!

Primetime42 wrote:Anyone check out his message board?

TOS INCOHERNT TYPIG GVES ME HEDACHES

And what about his remark to ESPN.com that he was not the one who was "tired and out of shape in the Super Bowl"? He never made it clear to whom he was referring.

"I said what I said because, obviously, somebody in the organization is leaking stuff to make me look bad, to turn the city against me. Now, why do that now? Think about that. Think about where it's coming from."

"Coach Reid - who I greatly respect, regardless of what people may think - even tried to come at me, saying, 'Terrell, you signed a contract... promising us you wouldn't cause problems.' I had to let him know that this isn't a problem. That's a misunderstanding, because this is all about business.

"Ask anyone. I'm one of the top players in the game. I want to be paid like one of the top players in the game. That's not being greedy. This goes so much deeper than what people are hearing.

"I have no problem with the money Donovan McNabb makes. I'm not trying to outdo or get paid more than Donovan or a QB. But I do want to be one of the top-10 players in the game. I am a unique player, a unique person. Everybody can't do what I do. That may sound wrong, but it's true."

As for hiring agent Drew Rosenhaus to negotiate a contract for him, Owens said: "This has nothing to do with Drew. This was going to happen with Drew, Joseph, or anyone I hired. This was going down no matter what."

"I know I'm a top player in the game, and my current contract doesn't justify that. The fact that I signed this contract, that I'm under contract, doesn't factor into anything when it comes to the National Football League. [The Eagles] can cut me anytime they want to - even if I'm performing well, I'm healthy and I'm putting up numbers, just because they don't want to pay a player that money.

"If they can do what's best for their financial future, then why can't I?

Primetime42 wrote:His logic is really crappy.

Anyone ELSE want to believe last year's press conference and good will in Philly wasn't an act?

General Failure wrote:And the latest in this non-saga ...

And what about his remark to ESPN.com that he was not the one who was "tired and out of shape in the Super Bowl"? He never made it clear to whom he was referring.

"I said what I said because, obviously, somebody in the organization is leaking stuff to make me look bad, to turn the city against me. Now, why do that now? Think about that. Think about where it's coming from."

Hmm ... which fro-hawk wearin' WR has been feeding information to Howard Eskin lately ...

By Phil Sheridan

Inquirer Columnist

Karma isn't usually this efficient. Normally, it takes a lot longer than a couple of days for what goes around to come around.

But there was Terrell Owens, wiping tears from his eyes on a CNBC program called The Big Idea With Donny Deutsch, as he discussed his contract situation. Just like that, the guy who humiliated his quarterback, Donovan McNabb, as the "guy who got tired in the Super Bowl," became the guy who wept about his contract on national TV.

Somewhere, Jeff Garcia has to be laughing.

The Eagles haven't had to waste their energy squabbling with Owens in the court of public opinion.

All they have had to do is let Owens and his new agent, Drew Rosenhaus, do the talking. The more they have said, the weaker their case for a new contract has become. By the time Owens announced last night that he wasn't talking to reporters about his contract anymore, his case was beyond repair.

Primetime42 wrote:His logic is really crappy.

Phil Sheridan wrote:Examine that logic. Because he believes someone with the Eagles - presumably head coach Andy Reid or team president Joe Banner - leaked unflattering information about him, Owens took a shot at McNabb.

Maybe this makes sense on the planet where T.O. is constantly being misunderstood and undervalued and persecuted by unseen forces. Down here on planet Earth, however, it holds no water

The NFL Players Association advised wide receiver Terrell Owens last year not to sign the seven-year, nearly $49 million contract with the Philadelphia Eagles that he wants to renegotiate after one season with the team.

T.O. may be bucking for ticket out of town
By Don McKee

Inquirer Columnist


It has been obvious for some months that the Eagles would unload a big-name wide receiver before their first minicamp.

And all this time you thought it would be Freddie Mitchell.

Now it appears Terrell "I'm not the guy who was tired in the Super Bowl" Owens has talked his way into the picture, too.

In what can only be described as the most interesting off-season in several years, the Nest has been loud with chirping. Now feathers are flying, too.

Ah, the delicious denouement of a Super Bowl run. If this is what it's like to lose, how badly will the apple cart be upset by players who actually win something?

The campaign by Owens - and several others - to gain new contracts brings up a couple of scenarios. Let's take them in reverse order of likelihood:

1. The Eagles will cave in to Owens, then manfully stand beside their bank vault and shovel out money to all who apply. Odds: no way.

2. The Eagles will cave in to Owens, then stonewall everybody else not named Donovan. Odds: 99-1 against.

3. Owens will be traded, even if it means a salary-cap hit and keeping Mitchell. Odds: 90-10 against.

4. Owens will simply be cut and the cap be damned. Odds: 75-25 against.

5. A face-saving compromise will be found. In 2006, Owens is due both a $2.5 million signing bonus and a $5 million roster bonus. The Eagles could guarantee one or both of those payments, meaning Owens would not have to play this fall wondering if he'll be cut next year. Odds: 50-50.

6. The Eagles will stonewall all their ungrateful supplicants and let the chips fall where they may. Odds: 75-25 in favor.

There are those who think Scenario No. 4 is Owens' real goal - that he wants the Eagles to cut him (Why else would he take potshots at McNabb?) so he can get an even bigger signing bonus elsewhere.

If people think that's out of the question, they haven't done their homework. You can bet Owens and agent Drew Rosenhaus have done theirs and know exactly where to go to get paid.

But the most likely scenario remains No. 6, and for two good reasons. When you strip away all the excitement and glamour created around the NFL by the television networks, the Eagles really are in the same business as SEPTA: selling tickets.

Since all of the tickets are sold, who needs Owens? Let him hold out all year.

The second reason is this: Call it a hunch, call it an outright guess, but the 2005 season will be the final Super Bowl run with this cast of characters.

By this time next year - win or lose - the roster will be drastically revamped. Owens will be gone. He almost certainly will be joined by Tra Thomas, Jon Runyan, Brian Westbrook, Corey Simon and a host of lesser names. And Mitchell.

If you're going to cut Owens anyway, why pay him any more up-front money?

Unlikely? Not at all - if they were going to keep Owens for 2006, they already would have guaranteed the contract.

Common Sense 101. Whatever Luis Castillo majored in at Northwestern, it certainly wasn't reading comprehension.

Castillo, a potential first-round draft choice, never failed a drug test in college and had no history of bad choices.

But after he finished playing and before he went to the NFL combine in February, Castillo now admits he took androstenedione, which is considered a steroid by the NFL. Castillo notified all 32 NFL teams of his use of the substance in a letter last week.

The NFL tells all players well in advance of the combine that they will be subjected to a variety of such tests.

As one NFL general manager noted sagely: "It's not a drug test - it's an intelligence test."

History lesson. The state of New Jersey has reached an agreement with the New York Giants for a new $750 million stadium in the Meadowlands Complex.

The Giants will foot the entire bill for the structure they will call home.

Let me repeat that so the future generations of Pennsylvanians - currently saddled with nearly $2 billion for four stadia at both ends of the state - can reflect on their leadership in the decade of the 1990s.

The Giants will foot the entire bill.

Finally. When I was at Penn State, I foolishly squandered my four years preparing for a career in journalism.

I should have spent the time preparing to open a sporting-goods store on College Avenue.

There's a land-office business in archery equipment in State College these days.

BIRD BITES

Sunday, April 17, 2005
Is anyone else physically ill over Terrell Owens whining and crying (literally) over his plight for a new contract from the Eagles? That $9.16 million he made last year must not spend the way it used to back in the day. And how can anyone expect him to live on the paltry $3.5 million (before taxes) he's going to make this year? The Eagles, who aren't blameless because they knew what they were getting when they signed Owens, have to do something. The trouble is what to do. The answer is get rid of him, but can they get anything for him and what teams might want him. Hey maybe they could package Freddie Mitchell in the deal, you know, buy one, get one free.

Here's a potential list of suitors.

Atlanta - He's from there. The Falcons need a WR and he likes Jim Mora.

Tampa Bay - Owens and Jon Gruden would be worth the price of admission.

Washington - A division trade is risky, but owner Dan Snyder might bite.

Jets - They have money and a need. Traffic on Long Island could be a problem.

Jacksonville - It would serve him right.

Dallas - He could dance on the star eight times a year.

SNEAK PEAK

(Here's an early look at our top 5 picks in the draft. Our complete final mock draft will run Friday with the special draft preview.)

1. San Francisco - QB Alex Smith, Utah

2. Miami - RB Ronnie Brown, Auburn

3. Cleveland - WR Braylon Edwards, Michigan

4. Chicago - WR Mike Williams, USC

5. Tampa Bay - RB Cadillac Williams, Auburn

- MARK ECKEL

TO on the 16th wrote: IT WS SAID AS A JOKE, D MAC IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE!! smile.gif SORRY IF I OFFENDED U!!

TO on the 16th wrote: IT WS SAID AS A JOKE, D MAC IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE!

AHA!!!!! So THAT'S why Joe kept Darnerien on the bench most of the season. "D MAC" was hangin' out with the enemy.



I say we trade him!!!!