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Deadskins wrote:For an optimist, you sure do seem to think anythg that's under 50% probability is a miracle. smh

Never claimed to be an optimist; I'm a realist.

SkinsJock wrote:^^^ ... THEN

IF we added a CB and a Safety thru the draft and found another RT to go with the 6 or 7 already thinking they have a shot

you'd have to say that the guys in charge 'IMPROVED' the team and have pulled of a 'minor miracle' ..

It would depend on how they play. If their play an improvement over Hall's, Polumbus', and even Madoodoo's play. Then yes I think it would be minor miracle.

And since you want to take this too literal, by saying it would be a minor miracle, what I am saying is it is a extreme long shot that that will happen.

If you don't get what I'm saying or disagree, I'm fine with that but I'm done trying to explain something that is so basic.

^^ you're right I am being a little picky about this .. BECAUSE ...

adding a RT, a safety and a CB or 2 just flat out makes this team better ...

I think we add a RT - with that plus the competition to be the starter - I don't see how the O line is not improved from what we had

with the return of injured players plus a draft with a lot of good secondary players - we should see better play from the back 7 on D

with this FO's history the past few years, we can expect to see the team be 'better' in these areas

IMHO - that's not being optimistic that's being realistic -

skinsfan#33 wrote:

Deadskins wrote:For an optimist, you sure do seem to think anythg that's under 50% probability is a miracle. smh

Never claimed to be an optimist.

Sorry, got you confused with skinsfan55.

Deadskins wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:

Deadskins wrote:For an optimist, you sure do seem to think anythg that's under 50% probability is a miracle. smh

Never claimed to be an optimist.

Sorry, got you confused with skinsfan55.

now that's funny .... well sort of

SkinsJock wrote:^^ you're right I am being a little picky about this .. BECAUSE ...

adding a RT, a safety and a CB or 2 just flat out makes this team better ...

I think we add a RT - with that plus the competition to be the starter - I don't see how the O line is not improved from what we had

with the return of injured players plus a draft with a lot of good secondary players - we should see better play from the back 7 on D

with this FO's history the past few years, we can expect to see the team be 'better' in these areas

IMHO - that's not being optimistic that's being realistic -

I get what you're saying and I can understand why you're saying it, but you're assuming that the players drafted well be good enough to help the team as a whole. I would say they is a decent chance that the draft will help the team as a whole. I haven't been arguing that.

I have been looking at each spot individually. Not the team as a whole. I still think it is a long shot that we draft players at those positions that two of the three will be an improvement over who we had at starters last year.

I'm not arguing that the team will be better, because a lot of variables go into that. I'm arguing that the new players won't play add well(or better) than last year's players.

That is what I have been arguing the whole time.

skinsfan#33 wrote:I still think it is a long shot that we draft players at those positions that two of the three will be an improvement over who we had at starters last year.

Why? Don't you think that a second or third rounder could come in and start? Especially at the S and RT positions. I don't see that as a long shot at all.

skinsfan#33 wrote:I have been looking at each spot individually. Not the team as a whole. I still think it is a long shot that we draft players at those positions that two of the three will be an improvement over who we had at starters last year.

I think we could get an UDFA and it'd be an improvement at FS. LOL

skinsfan#33 wrote: ... I'm not arguing that the team will be better, because a lot of variables go into that. I'm arguing that the new players won't play as well (or better) than last year's players.
That is what I have been arguing the whole time.

I don't know much about the game to be able to argue about anything ...

The team will be 'better' - we have an FO that have clearly shown they will find players thru free agency & the draft that will make the other players around them better

I could care less if the secondary is made up of players that are not as good or as great as the ones that played here last season
ALL THAT MATTERS is that they play better pass defense TOGETHER - that will NOT be hard to do


It is not as important to find A 'better' CB OR A 'better' safety - what is needed is to have a group on the field that can both apply pressure and defend the pass better - we will do that

THIS is a TEAM game - it's not about finding great players - it's more about finding players that make each other better AND the coaches that can put them in position to do that

Deadskins wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:I still think it is a long shot that we draft players at those positions that two of the three will be an improvement over who we had at starters last year.

Why? Don't you think that a second or third rounder could come in and start? Especially at the S and RT positions. I don't see that as a long shot at all.

Have people lost the ability to read and comprehend. No, I never said anything about fraying two starters as a long shot, which it is. I have said it would be a long shot for to find two players in this draft that would be an improvement THIS SEASON over the play we got from S, RT, or CB LAST YEAR.

Even with as bad as Madoodoo played it still might be hard for a first year player to better that. And that leaves one more spot out of CB and RT.
Hall play much better last year than a lot of people give him credit for, so improving on that play is an extreme long shot.
As much as I think we can improve at RT, finding a guy to play better this season than Palumbus last season it's a long shot as well.

It is fine that no one wants to look at this rationally but don't expect me to drink the cool aid.

skinsfan#33 wrote:Even with as bad as Madoodoo played it still might be hard for a first year player to better that.

Possibly. It's possible for them to play lights out too.

skinsfan#33 wrote:And that leaves one more spot out of CB and RT.

We have Wilson starting. We have the guy from the Bucs who started for them last year. I dont think CB is in dire need of being addressed but it'd def help.

RT, we have our starter and whoever they pick up this year will beind a few guys.

skinsfan#33 wrote:Hall play much better last year than a lot of people give him credit for, so improving on that play is an extreme long shot.

True.

skinsfan#33 wrote:As much as I think we can improve at RT, finding a guy to play better this season than Palumbus last season it's a long shot as well.

Via the draft, yes. We may have someone in-house that's ready to assert themselves and standup.

skinsfan#33 wrote:Have people lost the ability to read and comprehend.

That's hysterical coming from a poster who never proofreads his own posts. 99% of your posts contain words your phone's autocorrect feature changed to words you didn't intend to write. Which, more often than not, changes the meaning of your posts entirely.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:I have been looking at each spot individually. Not the team as a whole. I still think it is a long shot that we draft players at those positions that two of the three will be an improvement over who we had at starters last year.

I think we could get an UDFA and it'd be an improvement at FS. LOL

Yes, however if Merriweather is healthy hes a huge improvement over the other safties. Reed Doughty is a sound tackler and if used around the box on blitzes that would be good.