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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:09 pm
by Wysocki
If something happens to QC the Girls' solution is just wait...and wait...and hope something falls into their laps...
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:21 pm
by kkryan
gambit187 wrote:The point I am making is that maybe Syder and crooked eye soprano guy Cerratto dont have a good scouting team in place. Also I am sure Gibbs will show change that. The big picture I am trying to get across to you guys is why pay such a high price for a guy that would have been released anyway and has said once he did get released he would have came to the Skins.
Now i could see giving up what you guys gave up for a Couch or Garcia.
This makes no sense, Garcia is 34 too
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:20 pm
by jklote
My take:
QB: Eagles, Skins, Giants, Cowgirls
McNabb is the best QB in the group, with Brunell the runner up. Carrie Collins is a joke.
RB: Skins, Cowgirls, Eagles, Giants
Portis is by far the best RB in the NFC East. Tiki fumbles like 3x a game, so the Giants are automatically last. He was overrated at UVA, and the trend continues in the NFL. The Cowgirls will take a stud in the draft.
WR: Giants, Skins, Cowgirls, Eagles
TO has regressed a bit the last few years, and Im not sold on the McNabb - TO connection. Giants WRs are adept at stretching the field and can make a ton of plays.
TE: Giants, Eagles, Cowgirls, Skins
We are pretty thin here.
OL: Eagles, Cowboys, Skins, Giants
I see this one as pretty close, with the exception of the Giants, who are an absolute mess.
Re: NFC Beast Offensive Rankings
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:46 pm
by curveball
redskins56 wrote:. SAYING THAT THE GIANTS ARE IN BETTER SHAPE THAN THE REDSKINS IS THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE HEARD THIS OFFSEASON. Kerry Collins is a good QB, nothing more, and his knee got torn apart late last season by Bruce Smith. Their backup is ABC'S new bachellor Jessie Palmer, who has fumbled away every opportunity he has gotten. We have two players whom would start for at least 10-15 teams right now, and aside from McNabb every other team in our divison would trade anyone they have for Pat Ramsey, maybe even Brunell. I stopped looking at it after that, so I won't comment on the other positions.
Unless Gibbs is installing some sort of mystical, magical two QB set, the "depth" at QB isn't nearly as important as a quality starter. Unless of course Washington plans on employing the "OLE" line technique again this season.
When grading positions, especially QB, I weighed in 90% on the starter who will actually see the field and 10% on whoever's holding the clipboard.
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:49 pm
by curveball
surferskin wrote: at the qb position. now the redskins have two very capable qb's
Did you guys pick up another QB? Because even the much-maligned Carter has better numbers than Ramsey and that ain't saying much.
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:16 pm
by redskincity
curveball wrote:surferskin wrote: at the qb position. now the redskins have two very capable qb's
Did you guys pick up another QB? Because even the much-maligned Carter has better numbers than Ramsey and that ain't saying much.
Yeah and even in INTs, go figure. Ramsey is a much better QB, point freakin blank!!
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:41 pm
by gambit187
redskincity wrote:curveball wrote:surferskin wrote: at the qb position. now the redskins have two very capable qb's
Did you guys pick up another QB? Because even the much-maligned Carter has better numbers than Ramsey and that ain't saying much.
Yeah and even in INTs, go figure. Ramsey is a much better QB, point freakin blank!!
Well if Ramsey was a much better QB he would not have gotten hit so much and would have had the presence to know he was about to get popped and been able to move and possible make something happen. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SCRAMBLE
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:48 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
Why do Cowboy fans insist on saying that Carter is as good as Ramsey? Do you really believe that?
Dallas sportswriters were all over the idea of trading for Ramsey when it was thought he might be available, and Parcells has just traded for another quarterback of the future. Would you really rather have Carter than Ramsey?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:49 pm
by tcwest10
Oh, look. It's Gambit.
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:28 pm
by surferskin
the ONLY reason the cowboys one last season was because of their defense...they won INSPITE of quincy carter, not because of him. you guys would trade carter AND henson for ramsey but guess what?? he's not available! HATIN IT!!
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:51 pm
by Doughboy
jklote wrote:My take:
RB: Skins, Cowgirls, Eagles, Giants
Portis is by far the best RB in the NFC East. Tiki fumbles like 3x a game, so the Giants are automatically last. He was overrated at UVA, and the trend continues in the NFL. The Cowgirls will take a stud in the draft.
When it comes to RB, I think you guys are all forgetting about Brian Westbrook! That guy is a gamebreaker. Phi should be ranked very closely behind the Skins. (But still in 2nd, Naturally
)
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:17 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
Brian Westbrook should be ranked very close to Clinton Portis?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:38 pm
by Justice Hog
I saw Brian Westbrook at Villanova when he played the Blue Hens. The guy is a stud...but I don't think he's near the level of Portis. He's good...but he's not "all that and a bag o' chips."
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:45 pm
by skinsfaninroanoke
Does he have the speed and the what I call "squirtability" that Portis does? I watched the film work from the Denver site and I was really impressed at how small a hole he needed to squirt through into the open...
Not to mention changing directions better than a water spider... there is one play on the goal line that the original hole plugged and he absolutely switched directions almost too fast to see and popped in for a TD. He makes it less necessary to have a bruiser to ram it in to the end zone.
Westbrook is good, but I don't think on the same level.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:11 am
by jklote
Doughboy wrote:jklote wrote:My take:
RB: Skins, Cowgirls, Eagles, Giants
Portis is by far the best RB in the NFC East. Tiki fumbles like 3x a game, so the Giants are automatically last. He was overrated at UVA, and the trend continues in the NFL. The Cowgirls will take a stud in the draft.
When it comes to RB, I think you guys are all forgetting about Brian Westbrook! That guy is a gamebreaker. Phi should be ranked very closely behind the Skins. (But still in 2nd, Naturally
)
Westbrook is good, but he gets hurt ALL the time.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:45 am
by Doughboy
skinsfaninroanoke wrote:Does he have the speed and the what I call "squirtability" that Portis does?
Squirtability?!
I like it! You should write for Sportscenter.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:40 am
by curveball
jklote wrote:
Westbrook is good, but he gets hurt ALL the time.
Couldn't the same argument be made, only more effectively, regarding Portis?
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:39 am
by surferskin
curveball wrote:jklote wrote:
Westbrook is good, but he gets hurt ALL the time.
Couldn't the same argument be made, only more effectively, regarding Portis?
portis has missed 3 games in 2 seasons...that's not that bad