Gameday Thread Washington vs Philly

[FatPat]

give Russ Grimm alot of money to become our offensive coordinator next season...he runs the modern gibbs offense with the steelers to perfection as i said i whish we had gotten him this offseason (as it was rumored)

[Champsturf]

I'm done here as well as our beloved SKins. See you all around. This deficit is a little tough to swallow. L8

[Montana Redskin]

someone asked whether TO has outscored our whole team offense? yes, he has 12, our whole TEAM has 12 all season, 2 on ground, 10 thru air...see CNN offense stats...pretty sad?

[FatPat]

i understand giving him confedence by throwing dink and dunk passes early but not the entire game...

[Bacon]

We played them tough....until we folded like an unlucky poker player...

There's always next week I guess.

[verm04]

give Russ Grimm alot of money to become our offensive coordinator next season...he runs the modern gibbs offense with the steelers to perfection as i said i whish we had gotten him this offseason (as it was rumored)

Ide love to see this. If not Grimm than someone. fortunately Gibbs doesnt have a particuarally large ego and is willing to do what is necessary to do to win. So If the offense doesnt pick up sometime this season, I think thats a possibility

[redskincity]

i understand giving him confedence by throwing dink and dunk passes early but not the entire game...

Your batting 1.000.

[verm04]

I wasnt really watching the end of the game but it appeared to me that they were trying to open the game up after the game became unwinnable. Of course he continually got sacked when that happend. The other shots up the field before the game usually ended in the receiver being overthrow. Gibbs likes Qbs who dont throw Ints... We all saw the bengals game and how many Ints he almost threw.

[FatPat]

too bad im not much of a baseball player...we need to get this rushing attack going or we will be in for a long day next week in Pitt. we might as well have played brunell today because we asked ramsey to not utulize his physical skills and throw short passes that Brunell could have completed

[PhillyFan]

someone asked whether TO has outscored our whole team offense? yes, he has 12, our whole TEAM has 12 all season, 2 on ground, 10 thru air...see CNN offense stats...pretty sad?

actually TO now has 13 touchdowns including the one he got today.

[1niksder]

I have a major problem with our game plan the last few weeks.
The short passes early, I understood it was to get Ramsey comfortable but we never went away from that. Ramsey has a arm that we didn't use. Why I have no answer for that

The halftime adjustments that we seem to live and die by have killed us the last few games. It doesn't seem that we are making any.

Randy Thomas went down with a hamstring injury which means we can't shuffle the line to but Ray on the bench.

The defense missed Griffin today big time, who knows how long he'll be out.

Ramsey played alot better than Brunell has played no INTs (that one was on Cartwright) but when did the Hitch become our go to play. Did Portis make the trip Why can't we put the ball in the endzone? 51 yards rushing and 2000 hitches will not cut it. Next week we have the Steelers. I say we try to actually try to get IN the endzone this time

T.O. did close to nothing today that's a plus but did we forget about Westbrook?

We should have atleast covered the spread although the score doesn't really tell the story because we were in it a lot longer than people expected

I don't know who you guys will blame for this L but we can't blame Brunell this time. STUPID PENALTIES gets my vote

BTW we ARE better off with P-Ram

[FatPat]

hey TO did not do much but at least he got in the endzone...more than i can say for us unfortunately

[dlc]

It's Gibbs. Why are people scared to say it? Maybe that's the problem. The guy is a winner, no doubt. But he still can make screw ups. He's been making them all year. His players have talent, they have heart, they have class. Week after week it looks like they are buying the company-line.

Lack of criticism of Gibbs himself is the problem. The press conferences are too politically correct. Everyone is scared to point the finger, but everyone knows it. Gibbs is at fault. Say it out loud. He needs to hear from all of us. Why? Because if we get it in his head that its his play calling, he'll have to change things and make adjustments. This is what Gibbs can do well. He did well with the new zone blocking scheme, where did it go? He'll have to see that game is different, and it seems that he does. But it seems that the lack of disapproval let's him escape the fact that new things are needed. I'm confident he can figure it out, but first he needs to realize that he HAS TO in order to win, not blaming it on crowd noise, penalties.

He has backed the team in a corner. With the style of play he asks the defense not to ever screw up.
The team believes that the game is over once they are 10 points down. How can you play on such a razor thin line? Lack of hope will kill any teams' moral no matter how much character and how much trust they have in their coach.

We need to open it up. And yes, Ramsey is the best shot to do this. Ramsey played Brunell's game better than Brunell would've played it. Sadly, we need to Ramsey to play Ramsey's game. Adjust to the strengths.

[wonker]

This was not "another game taken away by the REFs" This was a really pooor showing by a team that was outcoached, out-playered (had many better players) and out-schemed.

The offensive scheme was abysmal. Our DLine and LBs force Williams to need to scheme too much to generate pressure.

We need talent, we need youth and we need time.

Will Gibbs work under these conditions?

That's the big question, to me.



wonker

[welch]

It's Gibbs. Why are people scared to say it? Maybe that's the problem. The guy is a winner, no doubt. But he still can make screw ups. He's been making them all year. His players have talent, they have heart, they have class. Week after week it looks like they are buying the company-line.

Lack of criticism of Gibbs himself is the problem. The press conferences are too politically correct. Everyone is scared to point the finger, but everyone knows it. Gibbs is at fault. Say it out loud. He needs to hear from all of us. Why? Because if we get it in his head that its his play calling, he'll have to change things and make adjustments.

Gibbs is more critical of himself than you are of him. He breaks down the film. He studies until 3 - 4am every day. He knows whatever there is to know.

[dlc]

Gibbs is his toughest critic. But the problem is that he's not getting any constructive criticism. Even the smartest coaches need others for new ideas. They need to tell him what he's doing wrong. I think Gibbs would appreciate it from the assistance, from the players and from the analysts. He's smart enough to figure it out, filter out the bad ideas from the good. I trust Gibbs, but what I was saying is that simply accepting the mistakes calmly is another error of the players, the coaches and the other advisors of the team. They need to make him listen to their ideas and judge them on their merit. Someone in the organization should be able to help Gibbs adjust to the new NFL, or otherwise, I'm afraid that it might be a long road back to success.

[Redskin in Canada]

Gibbs is his toughest critic. But the problem is that he's not getting any constructive criticism. Even the smartest coaches need others for new ideas. They need to tell him what he's doing wrong. I think Gibbs would appreciate it from the assistance, from the players and from the analysts. He's smart enough to figure it out, filter out the bad ideas from the good. I trust Gibbs, but what I was saying is that simply accepting the mistakes calmly is another error of the players, the coaches and the other advisors of the team. They need to make him listen to their ideas and judge them on their merit. Someone in the organization should be able to help Gibbs adjust to the new NFL, or otherwise, I'm afraid that it might be a long road back to success.

The offensive scheme is too complex to be executed perfectly now. The WR are still dropping passes! The OL is as thin as a blade. We have QB new to the system.

Nobody is more critical than Joe about himself. Ah! and yes the other coaches DO have a say. Come on guys, stop looking for scapegoats. This team was an expensive mess BEFORE Joe arrived.

Of course, once things are turned around every body will claim tohave been loyal all along... Everybody will claim they knew it would work all along... They never doubted Joe...

Give me a break! You guys are just frustrated. Few good things come out of that.

[1niksder]

Nobody is more critical than Joe about himself. Ah! and yes the other coaches DO have a say. Come on guys, stop looking for scapegoats. This team was an expensive mess BEFORE Joe arrived.

Of course, once things are turned around every body will claim tohave been loyal all along... Everybody will claim they knew it would work all along... They never doubted Joe...

Give me a break! You guys are just frustrated. Few good things come out of that.

I have been Loyal all along and will continue to be loyal.
I'm not gonna say I told them so when it happens and I haven't singled anybody out.

Gibbs will get it right ....it's just a matter of time that's what I've been saying.

But know I have to point the finger at the one person that has been wrong in this
It's Joe J. Gibbs it's his fault and He's the one that has to admit that he's wrong.


































Back in the day he wore a Burgundy Cap now it's Black

[Redskin in Canada]

Back in the day he wore a Burgundy Cap now it's Black

You are right and he is wrong.

[1niksder]

Back in the day he wore a Burgundy Cap now it's Black

You are right and he is wrong.

With Jordan they said it had to be the shoes



So It's goota be the Cap