I was at the game and JPFair I can understand where you are coming from. The section that I sit in seems to be half empty when the Redskins are losing, but when they are winning it seems to be the loudest in the stadium. I hate it when fans leave early for games. I've asked some of them why they keep leaving early and they all say the same thing, "I can't take it anymore". I guess I can see where they are coming from too. It really sucks when your seeing your team struggle hard and then when they make a good play there is a flag down calling it back. I think that happened twice last night alone! Gosh, I hate those officials!!!
I will never leave early though. I always stay to the end and believe it or not I always cheer the players coming off the field, win or lose.
We should be ashamed of ourselves.
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DieselFan wrote:Skinsfan55 wrote:DieselFan wrote:And...for the record...I did not join in the chants of "Ramsey, Ramsey"...I just thought that was rude. I did, however, cheer when he was put in...I did think it was time.
On a side note....a few "fans" (or,more appropriately, drunks) started chanting "Hasselback, Hasselback" after Ramsey's first series was 3 and out. Mildy humorous.
Is a drunk fan not also a fan?
You are correct....and at $7 a beer...you could call them Rich, Drunk fans.
Haha, true that... some of the smarter fellas might throw a little rum in their coke before the game though
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Awww... no more fighting? Weak... I guess I'll just go to class then :-\
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Skinsfan55 wrote:DieselFan wrote:Skinsfan55 wrote:DieselFan wrote:And...for the record...I did not join in the chants of "Ramsey, Ramsey"...I just thought that was rude. I did, however, cheer when he was put in...I did think it was time.
On a side note....a few "fans" (or,more appropriately, drunks) started chanting "Hasselback, Hasselback" after Ramsey's first series was 3 and out. Mildy humorous.
Is a drunk fan not also a fan?
You are correct....and at $7 a beer...you could call them Rich, Drunk fans.
Haha, true that... some of the smarter fellas might throw a little rum in their coke before the game though
Ha! Funny that you mention that. My Brother-in-law went to the game with me and he was able to successfully smuggle a bottle of Jim Beam!! The security once confiscated an Orange from my pregnant wife once...so I thought for sure he was going to have to throw it out. But, security thoroughly checked his bag....but, apparently forgot to pat him down, too!
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IndySkinsFan wrote: If Gibbs does not start Ramsey this week, he has ( in my opinion) lost all credibility as someone who can tell when a QB should be benched.
I'm sure after reading your post Canton, ohio called joe Gibbs right away and told him that they were destroying his bust in the HOF.
Maybe you werent around for the first Joe gibbs era... I don't know... it started slow too... 0-5 the first season... to finish 8-8... the next year we won the Super Bowl. Things worked out okay.
You can say whatever you like about the PERFORMANCE of this team all you like... it is your right... but you should see it as their PERFORMANCE and nothing else.
This is more of a TEAM than has been in Washington for over a decade... they're not losing hope... it's a shame some of the fans are. They will continue to bond as a team... and they will get better... but it takes time... Rome wasn't built in a day.
Joe Gibbs had to bring this team a long, long way... personnel wise, attitude wise, scheme wise, physically, mentally, spiritually... there's a lot more to fixing what was broke than fielding a better football team.
Joe Gibbs builds foundations... Joe Gibbs doesn't care what it looks like when he's on his way to where he wants to go.
It's your right not to like it... but frankly, some of us will be here NO MATTER WHAT. JP... don't apologize for a post that proves you are one of us that will be here no matter what. Some of us have witnessed the man's brilliance in the past... and we know that those of you that shoot your toes off now... will have no feet left to hop back on the bandwagon when it's time.
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OK … it’s always tough when the site admin does not like what a poster says, you never know when they will go off … however …
>>>I'm sure after reading your post Canton, ohio called joe Gibbs right away and told him that they were destroying his bust in the HOF.
As IF I care one way or the other ? At this time his team is not doing a good job at offense, we are not living in the past here. What he does now is what matters as far as playoffs and such go.
>>>Maybe you werent around for the first Joe gibbs era... I don't know... it started slow too... 0-5 the first season... to finish 8-8... the next year we won the Super Bowl. Things worked out okay.
I have been a skins fan for nearly 30 years, so yes I was there during the great times and am still here during the ugly times.
>>>You can say whatever you like about the PERFORMANCE of this team all you like... it is your right... but you should see it as their PERFORMANCE and nothing else.
Their performance, with the players he chooses to lead the team.
>>>This is more of a TEAM than has been in Washington for over a decade... they're not losing hope... it's a shame some of the fans are. They will continue to bond as a team... and they will get better... but it takes time... Rome wasn't built in a day.
They may not be losing hope, but there is no hope for the playoffs this year. Maybe it will make them stronger next year.
>>>Joe Gibbs had to bring this team a long, long way... personnel wise, attitude wise, scheme wise, physically, mentally, spiritually... there's a lot more to fixing what was broke than fielding a better football team.
I would bet you that there are players who think a certain player needs to take a seat, but wont voice that to the press.
>>>Joe Gibbs builds foundations... Joe Gibbs doesn't care what it looks like when he's on his way to where he wants to go.
He may not act like he cares, but I betcha he does. When the fans boo and leave early it does not look good for the team and the team is lead by the coach. And owners dont like empty seats.
>>>It's your right not to like it... but frankly, some of us will be here NO MATTER WHAT. JP... don't apologize for a post that proves you are one of us that will be here no matter what. Some of us have witnessed the man's brilliance in the past... and we know that those of you that shoot your toes off now... will have no feet left to hop back on the bandwagon when it's time.
I have been for a long time, and will continue to be
( though if they change their name I reserve the right to rethink that) a fan. Being a fan does not mean ( to me anyway) that I have to cheer them at every turn, no matter how badly they are playing. Being a fan I CAN expect them to win games and gripe when they do not. Gibbs past is just that, his past.
What matters what happens this year and the next couple ( I don’t think he will stay for 10 years this time around)
I don’t have to hop on the bandwagon. Being a fan for nearly 30 years, I am already on it
>>>I'm sure after reading your post Canton, ohio called joe Gibbs right away and told him that they were destroying his bust in the HOF.
As IF I care one way or the other ? At this time his team is not doing a good job at offense, we are not living in the past here. What he does now is what matters as far as playoffs and such go.
>>>Maybe you werent around for the first Joe gibbs era... I don't know... it started slow too... 0-5 the first season... to finish 8-8... the next year we won the Super Bowl. Things worked out okay.
I have been a skins fan for nearly 30 years, so yes I was there during the great times and am still here during the ugly times.
>>>You can say whatever you like about the PERFORMANCE of this team all you like... it is your right... but you should see it as their PERFORMANCE and nothing else.
Their performance, with the players he chooses to lead the team.
>>>This is more of a TEAM than has been in Washington for over a decade... they're not losing hope... it's a shame some of the fans are. They will continue to bond as a team... and they will get better... but it takes time... Rome wasn't built in a day.
They may not be losing hope, but there is no hope for the playoffs this year. Maybe it will make them stronger next year.
>>>Joe Gibbs had to bring this team a long, long way... personnel wise, attitude wise, scheme wise, physically, mentally, spiritually... there's a lot more to fixing what was broke than fielding a better football team.
I would bet you that there are players who think a certain player needs to take a seat, but wont voice that to the press.
>>>Joe Gibbs builds foundations... Joe Gibbs doesn't care what it looks like when he's on his way to where he wants to go.
He may not act like he cares, but I betcha he does. When the fans boo and leave early it does not look good for the team and the team is lead by the coach. And owners dont like empty seats.
>>>It's your right not to like it... but frankly, some of us will be here NO MATTER WHAT. JP... don't apologize for a post that proves you are one of us that will be here no matter what. Some of us have witnessed the man's brilliance in the past... and we know that those of you that shoot your toes off now... will have no feet left to hop back on the bandwagon when it's time.
I have been for a long time, and will continue to be
( though if they change their name I reserve the right to rethink that) a fan. Being a fan does not mean ( to me anyway) that I have to cheer them at every turn, no matter how badly they are playing. Being a fan I CAN expect them to win games and gripe when they do not. Gibbs past is just that, his past.
What matters what happens this year and the next couple ( I don’t think he will stay for 10 years this time around)
I don’t have to hop on the bandwagon. Being a fan for nearly 30 years, I am already on it
ISK,
I really am amazed at your views towards the Redskins and their struggles this season. It sounds like you're a fan of the team, but you reserve the right to not be a fan if they lose. Being a 'fan' is a heck of a lot more than just cheering them or not cheering them on. It's about loyalty and faith in the team, its system, and it's personnel. You may want them to win, but it sounds like your loyalty and faith is sorely lacking. One thing you are correct about, is that Gibbs' past is in fact, past. But, to pass judgement as definitive and with such finality as "lose all respect' for him after a mere nine games into a season is ludicrous. You say that you've been a Skins fan for 30 years, how did you feel when he went 0-5 his first year, only to win the Super Bowl the next year. I get visions of you after week six saying you're going to give up, and then visions of you saying you're a true Redskins fan after they won the Super Bowl the next season.
Your criticism of the offense is justified, no question. But, to make such allegations as you have is baffling. You say the players aren't trying, you say you might lose faith in the coaches, and you expect instant glory? It's that type of mentality that has plagued this organization for many years. Look up the word 'fan' in the dictionary, and NOWHERE does it say anything about winning or losing. NOWHERE!! So, while your criticisms may be justified, they are all based on the fact that we either win or lose. What about building stability for years to come? What about laying the foundation for the future? Can you name me one coach, Jon Gruden included, who has taken over a team immediately and brought them back to respectability in the long haul? ANY time you make the changes that Dan Snyder made this year, there's going to be a period where everyone has to get on the same page. That is not something that happens overnight, or for that matter in one season.
Well, it's obvious you don't care, but perhaps you should start. Why are you so fixated on us making a playoff run this year? Wouldn't you rather a long term solution instead of a quick band aid?
It sounds precariously like you're BARELY here during these times. Now that Ramsey is in, what will you do if HE too struggles? Will you jump ship?
Again, what's with the 'win now or else' mentality? I'm quite happy sitting back and watching how this unfolds over the next few seasons. You should too, because this is poetry in motion.
Ya think?
And do you think this would be unique to Joe Gibbs and the Washington Redskins? I would expect that type of locker room atmosphere. Its when they DO voice it is when we'd have problems.
Don't for one minute think that our owner is about to step in and interfere with Joe Gibbs. Dan Snyder is supporting Gibbs equally as loudly as some of us fans. The only difference is, Snyder is offering his unequivical support of Joe Gibbs.
Oh yes it does. As I said, look up fan in the dictionary and see if it says anything about winning or losing?
Thats' a mighty long bandwagon, but at least you admit you're on a bandwagon. I choose not to label myself as a fan on a bandwagon, but that's just me.
I really am amazed at your views towards the Redskins and their struggles this season. It sounds like you're a fan of the team, but you reserve the right to not be a fan if they lose. Being a 'fan' is a heck of a lot more than just cheering them or not cheering them on. It's about loyalty and faith in the team, its system, and it's personnel. You may want them to win, but it sounds like your loyalty and faith is sorely lacking. One thing you are correct about, is that Gibbs' past is in fact, past. But, to pass judgement as definitive and with such finality as "lose all respect' for him after a mere nine games into a season is ludicrous. You say that you've been a Skins fan for 30 years, how did you feel when he went 0-5 his first year, only to win the Super Bowl the next year. I get visions of you after week six saying you're going to give up, and then visions of you saying you're a true Redskins fan after they won the Super Bowl the next season.
Your criticism of the offense is justified, no question. But, to make such allegations as you have is baffling. You say the players aren't trying, you say you might lose faith in the coaches, and you expect instant glory? It's that type of mentality that has plagued this organization for many years. Look up the word 'fan' in the dictionary, and NOWHERE does it say anything about winning or losing. NOWHERE!! So, while your criticisms may be justified, they are all based on the fact that we either win or lose. What about building stability for years to come? What about laying the foundation for the future? Can you name me one coach, Jon Gruden included, who has taken over a team immediately and brought them back to respectability in the long haul? ANY time you make the changes that Dan Snyder made this year, there's going to be a period where everyone has to get on the same page. That is not something that happens overnight, or for that matter in one season.
As IF I care one way or the other ? At this time his team is not doing a good job at offense, we are not living in the past here. What he does now is what matters as far as playoffs and such go.
Well, it's obvious you don't care, but perhaps you should start. Why are you so fixated on us making a playoff run this year? Wouldn't you rather a long term solution instead of a quick band aid?
I have been a skins fan for nearly 30 years, so yes I was there during the great times and am still here during the ugly times.
It sounds precariously like you're BARELY here during these times. Now that Ramsey is in, what will you do if HE too struggles? Will you jump ship?
They may not be losing hope, but there is no hope for the playoffs this year
Again, what's with the 'win now or else' mentality? I'm quite happy sitting back and watching how this unfolds over the next few seasons. You should too, because this is poetry in motion.
Maybe it will make them stronger next year.
Ya think?
I would bet you that there are players who think a certain player needs to take a seat, but wont voice that to the press.
And do you think this would be unique to Joe Gibbs and the Washington Redskins? I would expect that type of locker room atmosphere. Its when they DO voice it is when we'd have problems.
He may not act like he cares, but I betcha he does. When the fans boo and leave early it does not look good for the team and the team is lead by the coach. And owners dont like empty seats.
Don't for one minute think that our owner is about to step in and interfere with Joe Gibbs. Dan Snyder is supporting Gibbs equally as loudly as some of us fans. The only difference is, Snyder is offering his unequivical support of Joe Gibbs.
Being a fan does not mean ( to me anyway) that I have to cheer them at every turn, no matter how badly they are playing.
Oh yes it does. As I said, look up fan in the dictionary and see if it says anything about winning or losing?
I don’t have to hop on the bandwagon. Being a fan for nearly 30 years, I am already on it
Thats' a mighty long bandwagon, but at least you admit you're on a bandwagon. I choose not to label myself as a fan on a bandwagon, but that's just me.
Sit back and watch the Redskins.
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IndySkinsFan wrote:THIS fan!! This guy is NOT a real fan.
If a real fan says all is good no matter how terrible the offense is, then i am not a real fan.
If a fan says the coach is doing a great job, when he keeps the better QB on the bench, then i am not a real fan.
If a fan blindly cheers no matter how inept the team is playing (offensively), then i am not a real fan.
I guess the difference between you and me is, i expect my team to TRY to win games and not just play over priced under skilled players no matter how many games we lose.welcome to the BEST DAMN REDSKIN SITE ANYWHERE !!!!
Thank you ... the site is great and i hope to pop in often, though not always to incite anger in other posters ... only sometimes
Good post.
I agree with all you have said concerning our current status and welcome.
How does a man, analyze another mans motives??
Gibbs has won in the past and was brought here to when now and he will, but we must do it with our best players.
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#1: This is not the 70's or 80's and neither
are the fans!
#2: When people get passionate about something
they usually get emotional. People are
passionate about the Skins. They feel the
need to voice their oppinions!
#3: 17-0 is not all that much but it is when
you consider that we have not scored more
then 20 points all season. I'm always
optamistic and was with Ramsey but keep
in mind we still played piss pour on
offense. Our Defense was being exposed and
fans were not happy.
#4: I would like to think the fans leaving were
fans with Depressive disorders. I like to
belive that the fans chose to leave to
spare their co-workers all the hassel come
Mon. morning when they are in their
depressive funk and lack of sleep. Atleast
they thought it best to get rested for
Mon. so they could pull their work load
and not stay home sick or do worse and
cause others to pick up their load. so
thank you fans.
#5: Perhaps the fans decided that they had had
enough of the cold weather and decided to
head home to their warmth and comfort so
as not to bombard E.R. rooms with cold
weather ailments.
#6: Thank you for being a Redskin fan....but
you need a life! Coming all the way down
from Boston to see a game. Dude either move
here or give the tickets to the locals.
You remind me of a fatally attracted fan.
are the fans!
#2: When people get passionate about something
they usually get emotional. People are
passionate about the Skins. They feel the
need to voice their oppinions!
#3: 17-0 is not all that much but it is when
you consider that we have not scored more
then 20 points all season. I'm always
optamistic and was with Ramsey but keep
in mind we still played piss pour on
offense. Our Defense was being exposed and
fans were not happy.
#4: I would like to think the fans leaving were
fans with Depressive disorders. I like to
belive that the fans chose to leave to
spare their co-workers all the hassel come
Mon. morning when they are in their
depressive funk and lack of sleep. Atleast
they thought it best to get rested for
Mon. so they could pull their work load
and not stay home sick or do worse and
cause others to pick up their load. so
thank you fans.
#5: Perhaps the fans decided that they had had
enough of the cold weather and decided to
head home to their warmth and comfort so
as not to bombard E.R. rooms with cold
weather ailments.
#6: Thank you for being a Redskin fan....but
you need a life! Coming all the way down
from Boston to see a game. Dude either move
here or give the tickets to the locals.
You remind me of a fatally attracted fan.
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JP,
You come all the way from Boston to see the game???
WoW! No wonder you are passionate about the Skins.
I feel ya.
You come all the way from Boston to see the game???
WoW! No wonder you are passionate about the Skins.
I feel ya.
• NFL Championships
1937, 1942, 1983, 1987, 1991
• Conference Championships
1936, 1937, 1940, 1942, 1943, 1945, 1972, 1982, 1983, 1987, 1991
• Division Championships
1972, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1987, 1991, 1999,
• All-Time Record:
515-465-27
1937, 1942, 1983, 1987, 1991
• Conference Championships
1936, 1937, 1940, 1942, 1943, 1945, 1972, 1982, 1983, 1987, 1991
• Division Championships
1972, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1987, 1991, 1999,
• All-Time Record:
515-465-27
#1: This is not the 70's or 80's and neither
are the fans!
#2: When people get passionate about something
they usually get emotional. People are
passionate about the Skins. They feel the
need to voice their oppinions!
#3: 17-0 is not all that much but it is when
you consider that we have not scored more
then 20 points all season. I'm always
optamistic and was with Ramsey but keep
in mind we still played piss pour on
offense. Our Defense was being exposed and
fans were not happy.
#4: I would like to think the fans leaving were
fans with Depressive disorders. I like to
belive that the fans chose to leave to
spare their co-workers all the hassel come
Mon. morning when they are in their
depressive funk and lack of sleep. Atleast
they thought it best to get rested for
Mon. so they could pull their work load
and not stay home sick or do worse and
cause others to pick up their load. so
thank you fans.
#5: Perhaps the fans decided that they had had
enough of the cold weather and decided to
head home to their warmth and comfort so
as not to bombard E.R. rooms with cold
weather ailments.
#6: Thank you for being a Redskin fan....but
you need a life! Coming all the way down
from Boston to see a game. Dude either move
here or give the tickets to the locals.
You remind me of a fatally attracted fan.
This ranks right up there with the infamous "Boycott the Redskins thread" as one of the funniest posts ever.
Sit back and watch the Redskins.
SOMETHING MAGICAL IS ABOUT TO BEGIN!
SOMETHING MAGICAL IS ABOUT TO BEGIN!
IndySkinsFan wrote:OK … it’s always tough when the site admin does not like what a poster says, you never know when they will go off … however …
I assure you... that wasn't going off. 
Please don't presume to know whether I liked or didn't like what you had to say... I just happen to disagree with you. Truthfullly, I've bent over backwards to allow ANYONE that can express their opinion (within the scope of the rules), to go ahead and do so. Because what I LIKE is good football conversation... whether I agree with what the other person says or not.
But I am allowed to have an opinion, and you can post whatever you like if it obeys the rules of the board. I don't care if you agree or disagree with me and it will have no bearing on your time here. I live in Canada... I started this website so that I COULD talk Redskins... and I spend more hours on this site than a lot of people work in a week, AND I work full time as well... I feel that I EARN the right to express my opinon. I also go out of my way to express that it is just that... one man's opinion... no more right or wrong than anyone else's. If it is perceived differently because it says site admin under my name... I can't do anything about that... sorry.
I won't rehash points that JP already pretty much covered so eloquently already but I will just add...
... that since you have been a fan for 30 years (kudos to you), you witnessed Gibbs' first tenure... you should recognize the striking similarities between this team and that one... lost a lot of close games... struggled to move the ball... came together as a team... i'm not trying to belittle this year's futility... OR say that we're going to win the SB next year, but I for one knew that this would be a tough year and that we'd be lucky to break .500... I'm not all that surprised to see us where we are. Is it frustrating because we have left so much room for improvement? And we've had so much opportunity to have a better record... that it leaves you pining to make all that improvement RIGHT NOW? Sure... but you have to take the crunchy with the smooth and there were bound to be growing pains. We've seen a fair few of them and some tough luck on injuries too.
#6: Thank you for being a Redskin fan....but
you need a life! Coming all the way down
from Boston to see a game. Dude either move
here or give the tickets to the locals.
You remind me of a fatally attracted fan.
?????????
Sounds more to me like JP is just one of the true fanatics around here... and you sound a little jealous.
Sean Taylor was one of a kind, may he rest in peace.
JP I found this site after the Dallas game last year your post was very simular to my first post...I share your frustations...Here's a question where would the franchise be if Joe Gibbs wasn't the coach now. We have a different breed of fan now and it is what it is. I feel for Snyder when we have a 5-11 team and Gibbs isn't the coach and his 90,000 = stadium is half full...But look on the bright side we'll have great seats!!
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BossHog wrote:IndySkinsFan wrote:OK … it’s always tough when the site admin does not like what a poster says, you never know when they will go off … however …
I was referring to my reply to you irking you not to your reply to me, apologies for not being clearer
But I am allowed to have an opinion, and you can post whatever you like if it obeys the rules of the board. I don't care if you agree or disagree with me and it will have no bearing on your time here. I live in Canada... I started this website so that I COULD talk Redskins... and I spend more hours on this site than a lot of people work in a week, AND I work full time as well... I feel that I EARN the right to express my opinon. I also go out of my way to express that it is just that... one man's opinion... no more right or wrong than anyone else's. If it is perceived differently because it says site admin under my name... I can't do anything about that... sorry.
i would never begrudge anyone from a reply, see my reply above
I won't rehash points that JP already pretty much covered so eloquently already but I will just add...
... that since you have been a fan for 30 years (kudos to you), you witnessed Gibbs' first tenure... you should recognize the striking similarities between this team and that one... lost a lot of close games... struggled to move the ball... came together as a team... i'm not trying to belittle this year's futility... OR say that we're going to win the SB next year, but I for one knew that this would be a tough year and that we'd be lucky to break .500... I'm not all that surprised to see us where we are. Is it frustrating because we have left so much room for improvement? And we've had so much opportunity to have a better record... that it leaves you pining to make all that improvement RIGHT NOW? Sure... but you have to take the crunchy with the smooth and there were bound to be growing pains. We've seen a fair few of them and some tough luck on injuries too.
When I heard Gibbs was returning I envisioned a 9 - 6 season, so yes i am a little upset we are unlikely to get there ( i worry we wont hit 8-8 ). We have the slimist of chances of hitting that mark, though the eagles and steelers are both playing very tough football.
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as I live far far away from Fedex Field, it really amazes me that anyone in their right mind with a ticket to the games would leave early for any reason other than a dire emergency...
You wouldn't be able to drag me out for nuthin. I guess that's the difference between the have's and have nots lol
You wouldn't be able to drag me out for nuthin. I guess that's the difference between the have's and have nots lol
Death to the EGO! RIP 21
Good post, JPF (going all the way back about 5 pages).
Anyone remember the 91 season, Giants I, Redskins down 13 - 0 at the half?
Or '72, Dallas I. The Cowboys scored a TD quick, then Jurgenson bumped into Charlie Harraway, fumble, 10 - 0 , then another Dallas FG, and it was Dallas ahead, 13 - 0 in the 2nd quarter. Jurgenson waddled out, carefree, and whipped a pass to Jerry Smith, right side, 20 yards, then Smith, 20 yards, left. Redskins won it.
Or that Giants game in '74 when Kilmer got hurt with about 10 minutes left, and the Giants ahead by at least 14 points. Jurgenson completed every pass, Redskins won.
Even if I hadn't seen the comebacks, I would have stayed just to see more minutes of a Joe Gibbs team.
Again, good for you, JPF.
Anyone remember the 91 season, Giants I, Redskins down 13 - 0 at the half?
Or '72, Dallas I. The Cowboys scored a TD quick, then Jurgenson bumped into Charlie Harraway, fumble, 10 - 0 , then another Dallas FG, and it was Dallas ahead, 13 - 0 in the 2nd quarter. Jurgenson waddled out, carefree, and whipped a pass to Jerry Smith, right side, 20 yards, then Smith, 20 yards, left. Redskins won it.
Or that Giants game in '74 when Kilmer got hurt with about 10 minutes left, and the Giants ahead by at least 14 points. Jurgenson completed every pass, Redskins won.
Even if I hadn't seen the comebacks, I would have stayed just to see more minutes of a Joe Gibbs team.
Again, good for you, JPF.
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IndySkinsFan wrote:How long before they smuggle eggs in to toss at unproductive players
If I ever see anybody toss -anything- at ANY of the Redskins, you will pick more than an argument with me.
Washington Post reported recently that a young fan shouted to Joe Gibbs: Go back to NASCAR!
If I had been there, I would have thrown the guy down the stands. Let me answer you to put it simple after the welcome I offered you in another thread:
If you are the kind of Redskins "supporter" who will not put his heart and support behind the players that are on the field, win or lose, agree or disagree, it will be very difficult for me to regard you as fan through thick and thin.
We are not blind. We see many of the issues but we do not see all of the issues, including practice. Now I know how and why the other thread of being fans came about.
Anybody that does not support our team through all the wins and losses does not have my support. We can have disagreements about what could be best but support as a whole is unquestionable.
Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
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I'm from DC but just moved down to Miami for law school....Over the past 5 years I think that I've gone to about 80% of the Skins home games. I rarely leave early and usually stay late and continue tailgating until the traffic clears so that I dont have to sit on the bridge for hours. The fan dynamic has clearly changed. There are too many corporate seats at the stadium and the people that use them hardly even stay for the entire game, if they even stay for the entire game. I usually use friend's tickets and have sat in many different areas, including the upper deck. Most of the people that I've met while going to games are so called "true fans" and I consider myself to be one of them. That being said, while I myself would never leave early, I can understand why some people do it. Firstly, the ticket prices are sky-high, parking is expensive, food and beer are way overpriced, and lets face it, the product stinks. All this ads up to serious frustration for fans, especially those that have religiously followed the team for a long time. As a fan there is only so much you can take. While I don't necessarily agree with the fans that leave early, I see no problem with booing players who are not performing (i.e. Brunell). As fans we are paying lots of money to attend these games and the players are getting exorbinant salaries to perform, and when they don't live up to that they should expoect to get booed.
I don't, however, agree with people trashing Gibbs as a coach. He is a hall of fame coach and has done more for this organization than any other person so he deserves our respect. I do disagree with his leaving Brunell in this long, but I was against getting Brunell in the first place so I'm not exactly objective in the matter.
I don't, however, agree with people trashing Gibbs as a coach. He is a hall of fame coach and has done more for this organization than any other person so he deserves our respect. I do disagree with his leaving Brunell in this long, but I was against getting Brunell in the first place so I'm not exactly objective in the matter.