Officials Under Fire

DallasCowboysFan · Post by **DallasCowboysFan** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 4:29 pm

Helmet to helmet is legal when the guy has the ball, or else every RB would have ten of those calls a game! Hence the reason Roy was fined for the hit on Coles and not Gardner! Even though he led with the shoulder, still the helmet hits the face mask.

Video - maybe he shoulda been fined for the h2h on Newman!

turdfurguson · Post by **turdfurguson** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 4:39 pm

Pansy call IMO. It was not helmet to helmet hit. He hit him with such force his head snapped back. Play it and pause it in slow motion not even close. If I was Jerry I would tell Roy to keep doing what he is doing and not worry about any fines.

joebagadonuts · Post by **joebagadonuts** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:08 am

turd, gardner did indeed interfere with the defender on that play, i don't think anyone is denying that.

the difference between williams' hit and taylor's is that the receiver lowered his head before taylor hit him. gardner was still coming down with the ball. i don't know what you're watching, but it looks like helmnet to helmet on every replay i saw. either way, i don't think it's a penalty, just football.

turdfurguson · Post by **turdfurguson** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:35 pm

joebagadonuts wrote:turd, gardner did indeed interfere with the defender on that play, i don't think anyone is denying that.

the difference between williams' hit and taylor's is that the receiver lowered his head before taylor hit him. gardner was still coming down with the ball. i don't know what you're watching, but it looks like helmnet to helmet on every replay i saw. either way, i don't think it's a penalty, just football.

All I am saying is they both are close(Taylor tried to break his neck with the facemask that wasn't called) Yes the Redskins got many breaks as well. So Roy has to wait for him to catch it before he cleans his clock. Its part of the game. You come across the middle your gonna get hit. I understand they are trying to protect the receiver but lets not take hitting out of the game. The whole point is to get the receiver more worried about what the defense is doing than what he has to do... Once that happens you won half the battle...

joebagadonuts · Post by **joebagadonuts** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:01 pm

i agree wholeheartedly about the hitting part. the reason why skins fans are griping about the refs has nothing to do with those hits. it has to do with the two calls that led almost directly to a 14-point swing in the game. cowboys fans can say all they want about how the officials missed calls both ways, and that's true, but none had the impact on the final outcome of the game as those two calls/non-calls did. if taylor gets called for a facemask, even a 15-yarder (which it looked like to me), that doesn't give the cowboys first and goal at the one. that's what all the complaining is all about.

as an aside, i've been watching a ton of football this year, and the officials are really stinking it up, more so than normal.