who's the #2 RB in DC?

America's Team · Post by **America's Team** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:20 pm

i currently have Betts, but if Portis gets hurt, is he really going ot carry the load?

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:25 pm

Well if our line plays as well as it did in the preseason... and he stay injury free... I think he'll be able to handle it.... maybe a little decrease in production due to the fact he can't break them like Portis... but otherwise I think he could be as productive as Davis was for us given the opportunities.....

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:29 pm

rock. well, after betts goes down after carrying the ball a grand total of say......twice before another injury! :lol:

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:31 pm

OK AT I'm begining to think your a closet Skins fan :-k

Before you said

I'm a lifelong Cowboys fan, but since I have both Portis and Ramsey on my fantasy team, I want the Skins to score some points in all but two games this year. I also need Ramsey to get the starting job by opening day 2005.

Now you want info on Betts thought you had Portis?? Tell you what, why don't you just tell us which Redskins you don't have on your fantasy team and we'll take it from there! :lol:

skin_to_the_bone · Post by **skin_to_the_bone** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:31 pm

Betts .....and he'll be fine.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:35 pm

skin_to_the_bone wrote:Betts .....and he'll be fine.

till he breathes wrong and goes down with a punctured lung ;furious;

redskinz4ever · Post by **redskinz4ever** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:39 pm

skin_to_the_bone wrote:Betts .....and he'll be fine.

i was going to say he might have more yards than portis on opening day.the bucs will look to shut down portis so you throw betts at them with his north ---south running.REDSKINZ4EVER !!!!

America's Team · Post by **America's Team** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:45 pm

DESkins -- to be sure, i'm not a closet skins fans, but fantasy screws things up and causes folks to root for players on other teams. i currently have portis and betts. traded ramsey away. need portis' back-up b/c he is somewhat injury-prone (unfortunately, so is betts!)

njskinsfan · Post by **njskinsfan** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:57 pm

B-E-T-T-S.

For once I have to agree with Theesman or is it Thiesman (sorry) Betts follows his blockers, is patient and then hits the hole. He has better vision than Rock, does not shimmy and shake like Sultan and takes his time unlike Morton.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:01 pm

njskinsfan wrote:B-E-T-T-S.

For once I have to agree with Theesman or is it Thiesman (sorry) Betts follows his blockers, is patient and then hits the hole. He has better vision than Rock, does not shimmy and shake like Sultan and takes his time unlike Morton.

he just can't stay healthy. My 2 cents

rock will be here on week 16, betts will be nursing, something.

welch · Post by **welch** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:05 pm

Hello, AT,

Yes, Betts, but it depends on the down and situation. If Gibbs wants more passing, it could be Morton for most of a game. Consider: was it Riggs, Byner, or Ervins? Most of the time, it was Byner, because he could do a bit of everything, and Gibbs liked his spirit. That why Byner is back as RB coach.

But Riggs could grind out that 2-yard TD against the stacked defense...and Ervins had the speed to open defenses that tried to jam the line.

So who's number 2? It depends.

America's Team · Post by **America's Team** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:06 pm

this is not good

portis needs to do something he hasn't been able to do yet in his career: play 16

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:34 pm

If not betts, sultan

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:58 pm

America's Team wrote:this is not good

portis needs to do something he hasn't been able to do yet in his career: play 16

Actually you're wrong..... His rookie season he played all 16.... only started 12, but that was because he was a rookie, and didn't start the first 4 games.... but still he played all 16

His second year he was out once earlier in the season and then he missed the last two games before remerging in the playoffs.... but I wouldn't label him injury prone just yet....

I'm sure he'll be fine.... and I don't think the Coaching staff is worried too much about Betts, Morton, & Cartwright backing him up.... All of those guys are vets and Gibbs & Bugel will make sure they're doing the job right..

HogInBlacksburg · Post by **HogInBlacksburg** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:01 pm

njskinsfan wrote:B-E-T-T-S.

For once I have to agree with Theesman or is it Thiesman (sorry) Betts follows his blockers, is patient and then hits the hole. He has better vision than Rock, does not shimmy and shake like Sultan and takes his time unlike Morton.

T-H-E-I-S-M-A-N-N

I agree with your BREAKdown on Betts. But, I'm with HS on LB's durability.

welch · Post by **welch** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:53 pm

AT wrote:

portis needs to do something he hasn't been able to do yet in his career: play 16

Why?

Gibbs does not use his RB's like that. Some runners liked it, and Riggins loved it because he was fundamentally stronger than big-name defenders, like Randy White. Riggin also loved to turn the corner -- he was a high school sprint champ in Kansas, not a slow guy -- he loved to turn a corner and run right at the CB. No jukes, no slippery moves...just hit the guy the way Don Warren or Russ Grimm would have hit him on a block.

The purpose? Toward the end of the first half, or sooner, that CB began to hurt, and back away from the line of scrimmage.

OK, that was Riggo, and Gibbs modified the offense to suit Riggo's peculiarities.

Gibbs handled other backs differently.

So, is this a fantasy football question, or a real football question? I'm not trying to dig at you; Gibbs runs his teams to win...never to rack up statistics.

Example: in the SB 26 regular season, Jerry Glanville was foolish enough to run the all-hands blitz on nearly every play. Gibbs had prepared special blocking schemes, with an extra blocker, so they picked up the blitz every time. Rypien kept completing passes to the Posse for long gains and TD's. The final score (see the Skins '92 on the all-time NFL stats site: http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/resul ... s/1991-was)
was 56 - 17. About half-way through the third quarter, Rypien was within a few yards of breaking Sammy Baugh's all-time single-game yardage record. Ryp asked to be taken out, because the game was already over, and there was no point in passing for yardage just to break a record. Gibbs let him come out, and clearly approved.

By the way, the Redskins players were angry at Glanville afterward, because they didn't want to run up such a score. Said one Hog, "He just kept throwing the blitz at us, even though it wasn't working, so what else could we do but take the yardage he was giving us?"

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:57 pm

Betts. 'Nuff said.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:41 am

If Portis goes down, it will be RB by committee. Betts will get the majority of 1st and 2nd downs, with Morton and Rock taking turns on 3rd. Gibbs will use Rock on short and Chad on long...Usually ;-)

Can't wait to see the frustration of a DC when Gibbs has Rock in for 3rd and 2, and throws a 40 yard bomb.

redskindave · Post by **redskindave** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:39 am

Ladel Betts :rock:

I just hope he stays healthy. [-o<

Cardas · Post by **Cardas** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:32 am

Betts, if he goes down, we activate Mac from the P-squad, then like Scott said, it will be a back by commitee thing with Mac and Simon splitting the 1 and 2 down plays with Rock on short yardage. Morten. I don't think the staff is sold on him as much. Just a hunch. Wrong probably, but just a hunch

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:29 am

Cardas wrote:Betts, if he goes down, we activate Mac from the P-squad, then like Scott said, it will be a back by commitee thing with Mac and Simon splitting the 1 and 2 down plays with Rock on short yardage. Morten. I don't think the staff is sold on him as much. Just a hunch. Wrong probably, but just a hunch

simon is on IR, and ineligable for the rest of the season because of it

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:36 am

DEHog wrote:OK AT I'm begining to think your a closet Skins fan

Didn't you know AT? All 'Pie fans are closet 'Skins lovers. They switched over in the mid '90s after Gibbs retired and the 'Pies made their run. Now they are torn because Gibbs is back, and the 'Skins are primed for a return to glory.