cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Man... That hindsight is 20 20 draft dream scenario is just covered in ridiculousness!!
BRO- I for one am GLAD you are an arm chair GM... Your scenario for the perfect draft is utter nonsense. You cant take hypothetical equations and apply them to real events. No one knew who was going off the board next, so looking back at when people were taken is worthless- one different move createa the butterfly effect.
We LUCKILY got Haskins as a STEAL @ number 15.. Fact. He coulda shoulda went top 10.
We got a bargain on another top 10 prospect in Sweat. HE and HE alone cost us next years 2nd. There are no buts or basically this or pretty much thats.. It was he who we traded back into the first round for- not Haskins.
Of the linemen tou listed... Big whoop. Noone knows how the future will play out. Fortunately for the Redskins, we have the makings of a true franchise QB for the first time in forever. He has the arm strength that wows, he has the football IQ of a NFL caliber qb, and better yet he doesnt need self confidence coaching like good ol Kirk.
He has shown that he can lead.
He puts in WORK on and off the field.
He is bright and eager to learn more.
He is YOUNG, and Hungry.
He is our future.. Lets see how he handles the duties befoee we cry wolf.
Every case tou make against him can be applied to your boy Morleand... Only he wasnt a 7th round flyer from a snall school that didn't face much talent. But only Moreland is a day one starter better then a probowl Vet??
Funny how your logic only applies to your arguments and are invalid when making the same case for another rookie.
OK this might take a few paragraphs. Sorry forr that. First of all those descriptors you use on haskins applies for most all these players. Second the "Funny how your logic only applies to your arguments and are invalid when making the same case for another rookie" I don't know what you mean by that??. Well for one we know you are a Haskins homer and it hurts when I say yes he in fact cost us 2 second picks. Sweat was the obvious choice and should have been taken at 15. The heart condition bogus was known by all teams and could have been drafted at anytime which is why we had to trade up to get someone we should have already drafted.
Nobody and I mean
nobody was going to take Haskins in the first round after us. Anyone who thinks that is living in fantasy land. Haskins would not have gone until the early second with Denver unless Denver wanted Lock anyway then Haskins would not even have been drafted in the 2nd!! What team other than us would have drafted him? Answer NO team. What team wanted Haskins after you and Danny wanted him so bad?
Haskins was a freaking reach at 15 and the only reason anyone says different is because we needed a QB so bad and Danny and you had to had to be talked out of trading up to get him so naturally how wonderful it was for him to be there at 15 and seem like a steal for a team needing a QB when he was one of the five that were thought to be good QBs. It's an easy lazy story to say we stole Haskins since we didn't trade up to get him needing a QB. But no we had to trade two second rounders for him in the real world since Sweat or Hockenson was the correct choice at 15. Only on paper is the trading up for Sweat legit when he could have been drafted at 15.
FACT.
As far as the trading picks perfect draft scenario you refer to that was having fun other than the fact we should have traded a pick next year for OL this year period. There is no big whoop on the line. Zero nada. We have no Tackle after Trent!!. The LG is still an experiment. Who plays Center if Chase gets hurt? Really important. I admit I didn't know the status of the great pick at Linebacker Holcomb we got. I like the pick. In fact I like all the picks except the running back and Haskins. What perfect draft are you talking about actually? The players we actually drafted I said I liked. That one? Yea they were good picks. I think you are mad I know for a fact Haskins would not have gone in the 1st round but you and some others who haven't thought it all the way thru think it as some kind of steal. That is total nonsense and silly.
The Redskins reached for Haskins because they were desperate when they could have had just as good of a QB later in the draft or even your boy in the 2nd if you want him that bad. Get real man. We are way to thin on the OL even before Trent began acting like a child. The only thing I changed in this perfect draft you say I made up but actually the team made the choices is not picking Ross P or Haskins and trading up for the correct position ( OL ) which in fact with my scenario we would be a whole lot better off unless you are talking to Haskin homers. I admit there may have been other players better Hockenson or someone else maybe but not Haskins. Why? because that was in fact a reach unless you are a Homer! I liked Lock better but he would have been a reach as well because there were NO other teams wanting QB in the first round. Look it up.
Yea trading next years 2nd and 3rd was a guess at the least it might have took to keep all the players we took minus Ross P pick and Haskins pick and adding Stidham and a leg OL to start right away Dalton Risner or Jawaan Taylor perhaps? Yea hell yea!! It was a guess but whatever the least it would have took would have been the perfect draft you gave me But if we hadn't have drafted a RB which we didn't need we could have had Stidham with that pick without all the fun of guessing which picks it might have cost us to get all the players including Love we drafted except Poss P and Haskins. But I was basing the trades on keeping all the other players I like that we drafted as well as adding Stidham. So what? Better than what we did with Haskins or your mock draft which I know how that might have gone with a trade up to get Haskins. Yea I like Love being on the team and if we really wanted him then finding a way to keep him in fact was what I was doing with that perfect mock draft. Yea it was close I admit. Thanks. But what ever would have costs us the least to do it would have been perfect. But who knows I might not have drafted Love at all and probably wouldn't have and got Stidham instead.
My point was if you are going to trade away next years pick or picks ( what ever it would have took to keep all the players I mention OL plus Stidham ) then get the right players in return for the trade instead of wasting it on a player (Haskins) who would have been there in the
2nd round guaranteed. Trading next years pick for a starting OL is a shiz load better than trading up for Haskins which let's face it the Skins did. Sweat should have been 15 period. A total waste when once again Haskins was a freaking reach and would have been sitting in the second round waiting for his name to be called. That's a fact. I guess it boils down to if you think Haskins was a steal at 15 then you don't get it and never will. And I guess the same could be said for me the other way but I know what I know and if you wanted Haskins that bad we could have jumped in front of Denver in the 2nd but Stidham would have been best. Now that statement is the only opinion where i might be wrong about. Haskins may be better but could have been had in the 2nd even if true. Patrick Mahomes was a steal. Haskins a steal? How silly.
