Possible QB options for 2019?

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Unless they're planning on cutting Colt McCoy (or he's injured a lot worse than they're letting on) this still makes no sense to me.

Funny you should mention that...

John Keim
‏Verified account @john_keim
36m36 minutes ago

John Keim Retweeted Chris Mortensen

From the moment they acquired Keenum, was told nothing is off the table as far as landing another QB. McCoy/Keenum are FAs after this season. Alex Smith’s future in NFL still uncertain.

Jay Gruden loves himself some Colt McCoy. I'd be very surprised if he was cut. Jay has been accused of being too loyal to players he likes.

[Sonny9TD]

Kyler Murray is the best thing to happen to the Redskins. This bit of serendipity is a gift from the football gods. He has allowed Josh Rosen to be up for trade or at least i think he has and the Redskins should trade for him no matter how many draft picks it takes. He is worth our 1st round pick hands down. He could do more for this team than any other player in this draft. I would give a 1st round this year and a 3rd next year and ask for a 4th rounder in return for another WR or Offensive Lineman to fill those holes with depth.

Now if we could get him for less great but we should be all in and get someone who can make a huge impact on this offense. He put up almost the same numbers as Jared Goff did last year with the 32nd rated offensive line and the 32nd rated run offense. Get Rosen no matter what and if they don't Bruce and Dan will have failed. This kid is the real deal. Get this offensive line some studsand maulers and get Josh Rosen and let the playoffs begin. What ever the highest bid for Josh Rosen is we should go a little more. Period

Dan I'm still available to be your GM. It will cost you though.

Hail !!!

[riggofan]

Anybody have any thoughts on Daniel Jones from Duke? That's a guy who may be around at 15. I believe he's in for a visit with the Redskins today. And Doug Williams was at his bowl game last year. Dude threw for 423 yards, 5 TDs and 73% completion rate.

6-5. 220 lbs. Coached by David Cutcliffe who also worked with Peyton Manning. Some comparisons to Carson Wentz.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Anybody have any thoughts on Daniel Jones from Duke? That's a guy who may be around at 15. I believe he's in for a visit with the Redskins today. And Doug Williams was at his bowl game last year. Dude threw for 423 yards, 5 TDs and 73% completion rate.

6-5. 220 lbs. Coached by David Cutcliffe who also worked with Peyton Manning. Some comparisons to Carson Wentz.

I think they could get Jones in the 2nd round if they want him. He's not a blue chip QB prospect. In fact there probably are no blue chip QB prospects in this draft. I also think playing football for Duke weakens your draft stock. They don't exactly play in a power conference.

[riggofan]

Anybody have any thoughts on Daniel Jones from Duke? That's a guy who may be around at 15. I believe he's in for a visit with the Redskins today. And Doug Williams was at his bowl game last year. Dude threw for 423 yards, 5 TDs and 73% completion rate.

6-5. 220 lbs. Coached by David Cutcliffe who also worked with Peyton Manning. Some comparisons to Carson Wentz.

I think they could get Jones in the 2nd round if they want him. He's not a blue chip QB prospect. In fact there probably are no blue chip QB prospects in this draft. I also think playing football for Duke weakens your draft stock. They don't exactly play in a power conference.

Maybe it weakens, but I don't think its a deal breaker. Wentz came from North Dakota State. Roethlisberger came from Miami University.

You might be right about getting him in the second round, but would probably still have to move up some to get him there. I could see the Bengals taking him ahead of us.

We'll see. I was just curious if anyone had any more knowledge of him other than what you get in the draft profile stuff. Its really hard to nail down any of the QBs this year. The fact that there don't seem to be any clear cut, consensus top QBs probably points to what you're saying.

[Sonny9TD]

Anybody have any thoughts on Daniel Jones from Duke? That's a guy who may be around at 15. I believe he's in for a visit with the Redskins today. And Doug Williams was at his bowl game last year. Dude threw for 423 yards, 5 TDs and 73% completion rate.

6-5. 220 lbs. Coached by David Cutcliffe who also worked with Peyton Manning. Some comparisons to Carson Wentz.

If we can't get Rosen i think Daniel Jones is a good QB. He could be really good. I would rather wait on Will Grier or Jason Stidham and get a Brian Burns or TJ Hockenson and Deebo Samuels in the 2nd and then one of the QBs just mentioned in the 3rd . The Giants will get Daniel Jones with pick 17. Stidham may be better than most think. But i would rather have Rosen

Hail !!!

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Anybody have any thoughts on Daniel Jones from Duke? That's a guy who may be around at 15. I believe he's in for a visit with the Redskins today. And Doug Williams was at his bowl game last year. Dude threw for 423 yards, 5 TDs and 73% completion rate.

6-5. 220 lbs. Coached by David Cutcliffe who also worked with Peyton Manning. Some comparisons to Carson Wentz.

I think they could get Jones in the 2nd round if they want him. He's not a blue chip QB prospect. In fact there probably are no blue chip QB prospects in this draft. I also think playing football for Duke weakens your draft stock. They don't exactly play in a power conference.

Maybe it weakens, but I don't think its a deal breaker. Wentz came from North Dakota State. Roethlisberger came from Miami University.

You might be right about getting him in the second round, but would probably still have to move up some to get him there. I could see the Bengals taking him ahead of us.

We'll see. I was just curious if anyone had any more knowledge of him other than what you get in the draft profile stuff. Its really hard to nail down any of the QBs this year. The fact that there don't seem to be any clear cut, consensus top QBs probably points to what you're saying.

It looks like the Skins are bringing him in for an interview next week. I'm watching his highlights and I'm not seeing anything that really stands out to me as NFL franchise QB talent. It seems like he throws a lot of balls up for grabs to wide open receivers, something that won't happen at the NFL level. He also throws a lot of short passes but apparently had twelve of them knocked down at the line of scrimmage last season. For a player who is 6'5" he should not be having his passes knocked down at the line. That a fundamental mechanical delivery issue. Nothing I'm seeing on film says he's worth a 1st round pick so hopefully the Giants take him out of the equation before the Redskins do something foolish. If they're going to spend that 1st rounder on a QB it needs to be someone who shows more ability than the QBs currently on the roster. From what I have seen thus far Jones doesn't do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esMmAXEoXc

[riggofan]

Lake Lewis Jr
‏Verified account @LakeLewis
1h1 hour ago

Think of Josh Rosen like Jared Goff who didn’t blossom until an offensive mind in Sean McVay brought out his true talent. Rosen in DC with Jay Gruden could have a similar effect. If I’m the #Redskins I would get this done ASAP.

[Sonny9TD]

The Washington Redskins are apparently close to closing a deal for Cardinals quarterback Josh Rosen.

According to Benjamin Allbright, the former UCLA star “looks more and more like the pairing, unless someone else steps up their offer.”
(RELATED: Washington Redskins Don’t Expect Alex Smith To Play In 2019)

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Someone help me out here. What's the logic in bringing in a Josh Rosen if he's A) going to sit on the bench for a year, or B) going to get coached by a head coach whose contract is up at the end of the season. Bringing Rosen in and benching him would be stupid. It's like wasting a draft pick. You expect 1st or 2nd round picks to contribute immediately. So, I'm not buying the "he'll sit behind Keenum and McCoy for a year" line. But why would you bring in a QB to learn a system that may not be around the following season? Does anyone think Jay Gruden's job is secure beyond next season?

I understood the Keenum move because they gave up virtually nothing, they are paying him virtually nothing, and he's one a one year deal. Rosen's salary this season is dirt cheap because Arizona already paid his signing bonus so I get that part of it. Rosen has game experience. I get that. Rosen has some talent, even if he couldn't demonstrate it in Arizona. I get that. What I don't get is any talk of his being a backup if they trade for him or any talk of how Jay Gruden is going to coach him up. Unless somebody else knows something about Dan Snyder that I don't know he's not going to extend Gruden without results that are impossible to obtain under these circumstances. So, what? Rosen learns his third system in three years when the Redskins bring in Saban or whoever to replace Gruden? How does that help a QB develop?

I'm having one hell of a time understanding the logic here.

[Sonny9TD]

If the Redskins have a hope to get in the playoffs now they need to get Rosen to come in and start day one. Not sure what draft picks we give up but we need a mauler at LG and a dependable WR who can get open and a pass rusher. If we can get those positions with quality players we can make a run for the playoffs. It is going to take those 4 positions ro be players that can come in and make a difference. Lb would be next or part of that list but we are 4 players away from going to the playoffs

If we can't get Rosen i think the next best QB that we could get is Will Grier and maybe we could get him in the 2nd. I don't think he falls to the 3rd. He is Baker Mayfield without as strong an arm

[SkinsJock]

If the Redskins have a hope to get in the playoffs now they need to get Rosen to come in and start day one. Not sure what draft picks we give up but we need a mauler at LG and a dependable WR who can get open and a pass rusher. If we can get those positions with quality players we can make a run for the playoffs. It is going to take those 4 positions ro be players that can come in and make a difference. Lb would be next or part of that list but we are 4 players away from going to the playoffs

If we can't get Rosen i think the next best QB that we could get is Will Grier and maybe we could get him in the 2nd. I don't think he falls to the 3rd. He is Baker Mayfield without as strong an arm

It would be nice to make the playoffs and that is every franchise's goal but that is just not realistic
The Redskins are in dire need of a good young QB but I don't see the logic in trading for Josh Rosen when there's little to no chance that Jay Gruden will be the HC in 2020

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

If the Redskins have a hope to get in the playoffs now they need to get Rosen to come in and start day one. Not sure what draft picks we give up but we need a mauler at LG and a dependable WR who can get open and a pass rusher. If we can get those positions with quality players we can make a run for the playoffs. It is going to take those 4 positions ro be players that can come in and make a difference. Lb would be next or part of that list but we are 4 players away from going to the playoffs

If we can't get Rosen i think the next best QB that we could get is Will Grier and maybe we could get him in the 2nd. I don't think he falls to the 3rd. He is Baker Mayfield without as strong an arm

This team has *f$ck* all chance of making the playoffs next season. That's delusional thinking.

[El Mexican]

Just for the record, I do believe we are a good QB away from the playoffs.
Last year proved it. A good, not spectacular, QB makes all the difference in this league.
While Alex was healthy he kept us in playoff contention.

It was eerily similar situation when Gus was our QB in 1997. We were doing great.
Then he head-banged the wall and you know the rest...we missed the playoffs after a hot start.

This may sound distasteful, but every player on the field is interchangeable except for your QB.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Just for the record, I do believe we are a good QB away from the playoffs.
Last year proved it. A good, not spectacular, QB makes all the difference in this league.
While Alex was healthy he kept us in playoff contention.

It was eerily similar situation when Gus was our QB in 1997. We were doing great.
Then he head-banged the wall and you know the rest...we missed the playoffs after a hot start.

This may sound distasteful, but every player on the field is interchangeable except for your QB.

When Alex was healthy almost everyone else on the team was also healthy. No one had adjusted to Adrian Peterson yet. The team still has no passing game and bad pass defense. Then the injuries started piling up. Even a healthy Smith couldn't have made any difference with the rest of the injuries. We were starting Greg Stroman at the end of the year. Against players like Odell Beckham.

I agree you either have a QB or you have nothing but you also need skilled players at other positions and luck with injuries. The Redskins had none of the above last year.

[SkinsJock]

Just for the record, I do believe we are a good QB away from the playoffs. Last year proved it. A good, not spectacular, QB makes all the difference ...
While Alex was healthy he kept us in playoff contention.

It was eerily similar situation when Gus was our QB in 1997. We were doing great. Then he head-banged the wall and you know the rest, we missed the playoffs after a hot start.

This may sound distasteful, but every player on the field is interchangeable except for your QB.

disagree - last year's record was consistent with what we've come to expect here ... yes, the injuries hurt a lot ... but the fact remains, this franchise is in a mess - there's a reason that the Redskins are one of the worst NFL franchises over the past 18 seasons and will continue to be until we can show that we can overcome adversity AND bad luck like other franchises do because their rosters and coaching staff were assembled and managed by guys that know what it takes

the QB position is very important but there are many other factors that contribute to a successful NFL franchise

[Sonny9TD]

Just for the record, I do believe we are a good QB away from the playoffs. Last year proved it. A good, not spectacular, QB makes all the difference ...
While Alex was healthy he kept us in playoff contention.

It was eerily similar situation when Gus was our QB in 1997. We were doing great. Then he head-banged the wall and you know the rest, we missed the playoffs after a hot start.

This may sound distasteful, but every player on the field is interchangeable except for your QB.

disagree - last year's record was consistent with what we've come to expect here ... yes, the injuries hurt a lot ... but the fact remains, this franchise is in a mess - there's a reason that the Redskins are one of the worst NFL franchises over the past 18 seasons and will continue to be until we can show that we can overcome adversity AND bad luck like other franchises do because their rosters and coaching staff were assembled and managed by guys that know what it takes

the QB position is very important but there are many other factors that contribute to a successful NFL franchise

Pass defense isn't good because they can't get to the QB who has all day. 1. ( Edge rusher ) If you get a mauler at 2. Guard we can run the ball which means running and play action with a 3. QB who can sling it like Rosen. A 4. WR Deebo Samuels or another good one to throw to move the chains. Injuries cannot be accounted for so they should be left out of any serious predictions. We have 9 picks in the draft to get these players. I think a stud Linebacker would seal the deal but 4 good players away. For sure 5 players. It's that simple.

[SkinsJock]

Pass defense isn't good because they can't get to the QB who has all day. 1. ( Edge rusher ) If you get a mauler at 2. Guard we can run the ball which means running and play action with a 3. QB who can sling it like Rosen. A 4. WR Deebo Samuels or another good one to throw to move the chains. Injuries cannot be accounted for so they should be left out of any serious predictions. We have 9 picks in the draft to get these players. I think a stud Linebacker would seal the deal but 4 good players away. For sure 5 players. It's that simple.

You're dreaming - if it was that simple, why is it that this franchise finds a way to win only 8 games or less most seasons and is projected to win 6 or 7 this coming season

[DarthMonk]

If Rosen were in this year's draft he'd be the number 1 overall pick.

He's rated as an immediate starter.

We have one healthy QB.

I say we make a deal for Rosen.

[Sonny9TD]

Pass defense isn't good because they can't get to the QB who has all day. 1. ( Edge rusher ) If you get a mauler at 2. Guard we can run the ball which means running and play action with a 3. QB who can sling it like Rosen. A 4. WR Deebo Samuels or another good one to throw to move the chains. Injuries cannot be accounted for so they should be left out of any serious predictions. We have 9 picks in the draft to get these players. I think a stud Linebacker would seal the deal but 4 good players away. For sure 5 players. It's that simple.

You're dreaming - if it was that simple, why is it that this franchise finds a way to win only 8 games or less most seasons and is projected to win 6 or 7 this coming season

Because these positions have not been drafted correctly and they have no QB to trust after decades still. They pay too much for players who don't perform yada yada. They haven't put a team out there capable of winning every week. They have neglected the offensive line for god know how long and the players they do get can't get it done except Scherf as of late and I like Roller as well. Spencer Long was average. Rouliler is a good pick for sure. But they are still missing those 5 positions I mention that are crucial. Those are minimum we need I think we could get into the playoffs with. But to answer your question even more. Below Is why. Real Simple and not a dream but fully awake reality shiz show. This is why we have let's say under performed. A very few of these players at worst would be on the team for the 8th season. Most 5 years and closer to now.

Here is the answer to your question.

Ryan Anderson?? Geron Christian ?? Alex Smith 20 million???

Wasted Draft Picks: Josh Doctson (maybe not maybe), Nate Sudfeld, Steven Daniels, Keith Marshall, Ryan Anderson, Fabian Moreau, Montae Nicholson, Jeremy Sprinkle, Robert Davis, Preston Smith, Matt Jones, Arie Kouandjio, Martrell Spaight, Kyshoen Jarrett, Tevin Mitchel, Evan Spencer, Austin Reiter, Lache Seastrunk, Ted Bolser, Zach Hocker, Josh LeRibeus, Keenan Robinson, Adam Gettis, Tom Compton, Richard Crawford, Jordan Bernstine, Phillip Thomas, Brandon Jenkins, Bacarri Rambo, Jawan Jamison, Jarvis Jenkins, Leonard Hankerson, Roy Helu was decent, DeJon Gomes, Niles Paul decent, Evan Royster, Aldrich Robinson, Brandyn Thompson, Maurice Hurt, Chris Neild,

Robert Griffi III 3 first rounders and a 2nd. What a waste


Decent players Gone

Roy Helu Gone
Kirk Cousins, gone Glad he's gone
David Amerson gone
Trent Murphy gone
Spencer Long gone
Bashaud Breeland gone
Ryan Grant gone

On a lighter note the last 2 years draft have been way way better.

[Sonny9TD]

If Rosen were in this year's draft he'd be the number 1 overall pick.

He's rated as an immediate starter.

We have one healthy QB.

I say we make a deal for Rosen.

Yes sir!

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

If Rosen were in this year's draft he'd be the number 1 overall pick.

He's rated as an immediate starter.

We have one healthy QB.

I say we make a deal for Rosen.

OK, I'll bite on Rosen. How do they get him receivers? He's not doing anything with the group they have now.

[riggofan]

If Rosen were in this year's draft he'd be the number 1 overall pick.

He's rated as an immediate starter.

We have one healthy QB.

I say we make a deal for Rosen.

I don't want to give up our first round pick. Otherwise, I'm totally on board with this.

[riggofan]

OK, I'll bite on Rosen. How do they get him receivers? He's not doing anything with the group they have now.

I understand what you're saying, but that's not a reason NOT to get a QB. Even if we can draft a WR or two this year, its not like those guys are ever able to come in and be immediate impact starters anyway.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

OK, I'll bite on Rosen. How do they get him receivers? He's not doing anything with the group they have now.

I understand what you're saying, but that's not a reason NOT to get a QB. Even if we can draft a WR or two this year, its not like those guys are ever able to come in and be immediate impact starters anyway.

To me it's a vicious cycle. You can't develop a QB without receivers and you can't develop receivers without a QB. I sense the team has a lot more faith in that group of receivers than it should. There are eleven players in the league who caught more balls than the top three Redskins wide receivers combined.