Could RGIII have run a current NFL offense?

[welch]

This article about Kyler Murray says that NFL coaches have adapted the offense to use the running ability of college QB's, rather than retrain QB's to run the drop-back pro offense. Could RGIII have prospered in an offense built for his skills? Should Shanahan have developed two offenses: one for RGIII and an old-fashioned one for Cousins?

Adam Kilgore calls it an evolution in the NFL QB.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2 ... da65731577

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

No. RGIII was supposed to be the next Randall Cuniningham or Michael Vick but he had one fatal flaw: He had no concept of how to avoid a hit. There is no system in which any NFL QB can succeed if they don't know how to avoid taking hits, especially when they turn themselves into a running back. No matter what else happens the NFL is still a pocket passer's league. Look at the QB's left in this year's playoffs.

[DEHog]

What am I missing?? Didn't the Shanny's tailor a offense to his skills as a runner? Wasn't it RGIII who didn't want to continue in that offense??

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

What am I missing?? Didn't the Shanny's tailor a offense to his skills as a runner? Wasn't it RGIII who didn't want to continue in that offense??

We've beaten the *sh$t* out of this dead horse at this point but Shanahan never wanted RGIII in the first place. That was the beginning of the end of his tenure in Washington.

[welch]

I know we talked about RGIII back in 2013 and 2014, and I remember that Griffin wanted to learn a drop-back / pocket passer offense. Svrluga's argument is that NFL offensive play has changed in the last five years or so:

But the ground has shifted. The NFL took forever to adapt to how college teams play offense, but the adjustment has happened seemingly all at once. Pro coaches have learned to do what college coaches have done over the past decade: take premier athletes, accentuate their strengths, simplify offensive schemes, play fast. Quarterbacks who stand in the shotgun and have the agility to move within and outside the pocket can create their own passing lanes, regardless of height. Running quarterbacks are more protected now because of new rules legislating contact.

The NFL coaches don’t have much choice. The quarterbacks coming into the league know one way to play, and there is less practice time to indoctrinate them in an entirely new system.

For years, football was played one way, with a few differences from level to level, from Pee Wee through college — spread it out, throw it around, rarely huddle, use spare terminology. The rise of seven-on-seven leagues further ingrained those strategies and habits. The NFL resisted, choosing instead to try to fit the talents of quarterbacks into their systems. They have finally realized the folly of that approach. Football is now played the same way, with a few differences at every level, all the way up to the NFL

Was RGIII something like Lamar Jackson? What if the Ravens keep RGIII and cut Joe Flacco?

[DEHog]

I know we talked about RGIII back in 2013 and 2014, and I remember that Griffin wanted to learn a drop-back / pocket passer offense. Svrluga's argument is that NFL offensive play has changed in the last five years or so:

But the ground has shifted. The NFL took forever to adapt to how college teams play offense, but the adjustment has happened seemingly all at once. Pro coaches have learned to do what college coaches have done over the past decade: take premier athletes, accentuate their strengths, simplify offensive schemes, play fast. Quarterbacks who stand in the shotgun and have the agility to move within and outside the pocket can create their own passing lanes, regardless of height. Running quarterbacks are more protected now because of new rules legislating contact.

The NFL coaches don’t have much choice. The quarterbacks coming into the league know one way to play, and there is less practice time to indoctrinate them in an entirely new system.

For years, football was played one way, with a few differences from level to level, from Pee Wee through college — spread it out, throw it around, rarely huddle, use spare terminology. The rise of seven-on-seven leagues further ingrained those strategies and habits. The NFL resisted, choosing instead to try to fit the talents of quarterbacks into their systems. They have finally realized the folly of that approach. Football is now played the same way, with a few differences at every level, all the way up to the NFL

Not sure I buy it?? Look who played this weekend...Brady, Rivers, Brees, Foles, Geoff, Luck...Prescott and Mahomes are the only two that "maybe" fit that mold.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I know we talked about RGIII back in 2013 and 2014, and I remember that Griffin wanted to learn a drop-back / pocket passer offense. Svrluga's argument is that NFL offensive play has changed in the last five years or so:

But the ground has shifted. The NFL took forever to adapt to how college teams play offense, but the adjustment has happened seemingly all at once. Pro coaches have learned to do what college coaches have done over the past decade: take premier athletes, accentuate their strengths, simplify offensive schemes, play fast. Quarterbacks who stand in the shotgun and have the agility to move within and outside the pocket can create their own passing lanes, regardless of height. Running quarterbacks are more protected now because of new rules legislating contact.

The NFL coaches don’t have much choice. The quarterbacks coming into the league know one way to play, and there is less practice time to indoctrinate them in an entirely new system.

For years, football was played one way, with a few differences from level to level, from Pee Wee through college — spread it out, throw it around, rarely huddle, use spare terminology. The rise of seven-on-seven leagues further ingrained those strategies and habits. The NFL resisted, choosing instead to try to fit the talents of quarterbacks into their systems. They have finally realized the folly of that approach. Football is now played the same way, with a few differences at every level, all the way up to the NFL

Was RGIII something like Lamar Jackson? What if the Ravens keep RGIII and cut Joe Flacco?

I definitely see the Ravens keeping RGIII and letting Flacco walk. I'm not sure that means RGIII is the de facto starter next season. The biggest problem with RGIII has always been that he lacks any of the skills of a pocket passer. He's not a drop-back quarterback. Never was one. I'm not sure he can learn that skill at this age. It's something you have to work on for years. The other part of that is RGIII isn't the same player he was before the Seattle game. He isn't going to regularly outrun defenses anymore. Maybe if he had been built more like Cam Newton he'd have less physical wear.

[El Mexican]

No. RGIII can't run a Madden 2019 for Xbox offense, let alone an NFL offense.

Dude just can't stay away from the hits.

And no, the debacle did not start in the Seattle game. It started some weeks earlier
when RGIII took a huge hit from a Baltimore DL whilst running. His knee just gave in. Horribly.
That should have been the end of his season.

We all know what happened later....

[SkinsJock]

The Redskins biggest mistake was making the trade - HUGE mistake ... THEN ... RGIII was not prepared properly to play QB in the NFL

Mahomes was given a season to get ready under Alex Smith - huge difference ... Dan Snyder wanted RGIII to play and Mike had to start him

We all had a great time watching RGIII in 2012 but there was no way that he was going to last long playing QB like that

I doubt that he will be a starting QB despite all that athletic ability - he was not prepared properly and the Redskins are still paying the price

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

The Redskins biggest mistake was making the trade - HUGE mistake ... THEN ... RGIII was not prepared properly to play QB in the NFL

Mahomes was given a season to get ready under Alex Smith - huge difference ... Dan Snyder wanted RGIII to play and Mike had to start him

We all had a great time watching RGIII in 2012 but there was no way that he was going to last long playing QB like that

I doubt that he will be a starting QB despite all that athletic ability - he was not prepared properly and the Redskins are still paying the price

That wasn't the question. Can you at least try reading the question before you post?