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Redskins will draft in the middle again. Unless the Skins have "find-em" drafters, like Beathard and Casserly were, might as well build up the OL and receivers.
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welch wrote:Redskins will draft in the middle again. Unless the Skins have "find-em" drafters, like Beathard and Casserly were, might as well build up the OL and receivers.
looks like #15 ... IF there's no new GM .. I hope the bozos take the best players available - like Scott said, "you cannot have enough good players ..."
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Read a decent article suggesting Kyle Shurmur, the Vanderbilt QB as a possible later round target for the team next year. My only concern with drafting someone next year is that they're going to be under tremendous pressure to start right away. Not sure a guy drafted at #15 or later is going to be ready.
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riggofan wrote:Read a decent article suggesting Kyle Shurmur, the Vanderbilt QB as a possible later round target for the team next year. My only concern with drafting someone next year is that they're going to be under tremendous pressure to start right away. Not sure a guy drafted at #15 or later is going to be ready.
true that ... the transition from college to the pros is difficult enough but it must be even more so for a QB ...
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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riggofan wrote:Read a decent article suggesting Kyle Shurmur, the Vanderbilt QB as a possible later round target for the team next year. My only concern with drafting someone next year is that they're going to be under tremendous pressure to start right away. Not sure a guy drafted at #15 or later is going to be ready.
At this juncture I'm willing to see a young QB instead of the rejects we have right now.

Our last game versus Philly should have made abundantly clear.
Same goes for the RB situation. No depth = failure.
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Alex Smith counts against the cap for two more seasons. No cap room for any FA QB, except, maybe, RGIII. Hey, he knows Gruden's system, and maybe better than Josh Johnson did!
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Still liking Josh? He proved on Sunday why he was unemployed for years...he's horrible. He has zero chance of being on the skins in 19 -- ZERO!!
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our QB situation for 2019 is unreal - this makes it even more important to take Bruce Allen out of the football operations job

we need to add as many good young players as we can through the draft & trading away some good players - this franchise needs a major re-build



IF we're going to continue with the same guys in charge of who coaches and plays we know what to expect - each week we play & pray for an upset
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When the dust settles Wr is our biggest need... Resign AP... Guice can learn behind the goat...

As for qb- anyone will be better with an actual oline. Im ok with Colt and a young back up if AS is done. RG3 might not be a horrible idea either.

Flacco? Nah.
Carr? Not eh
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El Mexican wrote:At this juncture I'm willing to see a young QB instead of the rejects we have right now.
Oh my god, yes. Me too! Its just a really tough situation to throw a young QB into here. The team isn't great, and we all know how tough this town is on quarterbacks.
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riggofan wrote:
El Mexican wrote:At this juncture I'm willing to see a young QB instead of the rejects we have right now.
Oh my god, yes. Me too! Its just a really tough situation to throw a young QB into here. The team isn't great, and we all know how tough this town is on quarterbacks.
+1 - AND we have Callahan - having a good O line will help any QB
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riggofan wrote:
El Mexican wrote:At this juncture I'm willing to see a young QB instead of the rejects we have right now.
Oh my god, yes. Me too! Its just a really tough situation to throw a young QB into here. The team isn't great, and we all know how tough this town is on quarterbacks.
I'm starting to believe we'll get two QBs in the draft. Maybe not first round material, but middle of the pack guys.

Colt and Josh will never be long term answers. Never.

Realistically, there's little to no chance hiring a proved vet that will make a huge dent in the cap. Not with Alex Smith still on the roster, as Welch said.

So drafting two rookies at QB makes all the sense in the world right now. They won't cost and arm and leg and
maybe we'll get lucky and find someone decent.

Can our situation be really that worse than what we saw during the final month of the season?
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- Colt becomes starter

- Draft a QB around the 4th or 5th round, just as a backup

- Draft receivers with top picks. The Redskins have no WR's and Davis is the best TE. Time to move on.

The Phillies and Astros tanked. Now they are pretty good. Time for the Redskins to try it.
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welch wrote:The Phillies and Astros tanked. Now they are pretty good. Time for the Redskins to try it.
I thought we already tried that? Or do you mean suck on purpose? :)
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welch wrote:The Phillies and Astros tanked. Now they are pretty good. Time for the Redskins to try it.
I thought we already tried that? Or do you mean suck on purpose? :)
as bad as we've done things the past 10 seasons - these 2 bozos would most likely screw that up as well :)
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riggofan wrote:
welch wrote:The Phillies and Astros tanked. Now they are pretty good. Time for the Redskins to try it.
I thought we already tried that? Or do you mean suck on purpose? :)
Ha!

I mean finish last. Winning 6 or 7 or 8 games a year is just good enough to draft in the middle, where the sure-fire QB's are not. Unless, of course, Snyder and Allen are smart enough to draft QB's like Jay Schroeder, Mark Rypien, and Stan Humphries.
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in 2012 they drafted RGIII and Kirk Cousins when they could have drafted Nick Foles, Russell Wilson or Ryan Tannehill - these bozos are hopeless
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SkinsJock wrote:in 2012 they drafted RGIII and Kirk Cousins when they could have drafted Nick Foles, Russell Wilson or Ryan Tannehill - these bozos are hopeless
I remember that Tannehill was available to the Redskins at their original drafting spot. They could have saved all those picks and gotten a respectable starting QB and still drafted Cousins in the fourth round. Bruce Allen: he's a champ, right, Danny?
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Attempting to find an NFL equivalent to Sabremetrics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2 ... ccfdca71b7

Looking at the QB numbers since 2002, it appears that the Redskins are flat in the middle, or a little below.
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welch wrote:- Colt becomes starter

- Draft a QB around the 4th or 5th round, just as a backup

- Draft receivers with top picks. The Redskins have no WR's and Davis is the best TE. Time to move on.

The Phillies and Astros tanked. Now they are pretty good. Time for the Redskins to try it.
As much as I would like that sound strategy you mention, this is the Redskins we're talking about.
Colt will NEVER be a full time starter here. Never. Bad luck due to injuries or lack of talent, who cares?

A franchise of the stature requieres a solid or above average QB to stay relevant. That's the deal in this town.

Now that you mentioned it, though, I'm also skeptical about drafting WRs with high round picks.
Our record is terrible in that respect. I'd much rather roll the dice and get a cadre of QBs a see who pans out a year or two down the line.
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no telling who may be the QBs here this year but it's clear that we have a QB problem ... if the people responsible for this don't change, then all we can hope for is to keep adding players and hope that we can pick up a good QB prospect in the 2020 draft who will become our starting QB in 2021

I mean you just can't make it up - it's a freaking disaster
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DarthMonk wrote:Would Clemson have beaten us last night ?
"I won't dignify that question with an answer" :lol:
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I find it amazing that some people continue to think (and ask) if the best college teams could hang in with the worst NFL teams...

Without a doubt, the college team has NO chance.

Maybe one or two Clemson OL will make the NFL, the other 3 won't. Those three non-NFL'ers will get absolutely owned. Lawrence would have less than a second to release ball...he would not be able to deal with the different looks he'd see.

Linebackers in College -- how many will be in NFL? 1 good one and 1 okay one? Ever see a college game where a jet sweep works over and over? It rarely if ever works in NFL. The linebackers are a lot faster.

AND -- As they say -- it would be men versus boys!
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^^^ duh

Anyway ...

How about Foles, Greg Williams, and a new owner ?
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