Possible QB options for 2019?

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Rather have Angela

She's probably more durable than any quarterback we've had since Mark. She certainly is built to take a pounding.

[riggofan]

Holy schmokes.

[gibbsfan]

I think we'll have no choice at QB this year. We will HAVE to draft Brett Rypien for obvious reasons.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/09/12/ ... tt-rypien/

Rather have Angela

sign her up... things will change for the better.

[hanburgerheel]

Snyder has single-handedly sunk the Washington Redskins organization. He is a schlep-rock.

He is exactly the opposite of a competent owner.

Amidst all of the controversy, and loss of QB's, he signs a domestic violence criminal! That is an awful smear to the team. They're already held in contempt for their controversial mascot name. Doing idiotic things like Doug Williams saying "There are people in higher positions who have done worse and this is small potatoes compared to other things" only throws gasoline on the fire. He should be fired for that. The public opinion is such a huge factor now that you cannot afford to have something like this. Now, Washington is a disease, a virus, that no one wants to be around.

Hiring Kaepernick would have improved their PR and acceptance by huge leaps and bounds. It would have been considered a commendable hire. Snyder is a first-class jerk that will make excuses for a woman-beater and then wonder why the league hates his team and bashes his integrity and ownership. I am almost 51 years old and my father and grandfather were Redskins fans. It's a very sad time.

As long as Snyder owns this team, it will fail.

[Sonny9TD]

As much as I would like Bret Rypien to continue what was started he just doesn't have the arm or the accuracy. NFL defenses would eat him alive. Just not an option from what I see.

[El Mexican]

As much as I would like Bret Rypien to continue what was started he just doesn't have the arm or the accuracy. NFL defenses would eat him alive. Just not an option from what I see.

Agreed. He's about 10% of the size and muscle of the original Rypien.

Unless he's the next Drew Brees or Doug Flutie, he won't last in today's NFL.

[riggofan]

As much as I would like Bret Rypien to continue what was started he just doesn't have the arm or the accuracy. NFL defenses would eat him alive. Just not an option from what I see.

Agreed. He's about 10% of the size and muscle of the original Rypien.

Unless he's the next Drew Brees or Doug Flutie, he won't last in today's NFL.

Come on, fellas! Let's not let these facts get in the way of the dream!!!

I did see a fairly reputable mock the other day with us taking Haskins around 12 or 13 or whatever.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I did see a fairly reputable mock the other day with us taking Haskins around 12 or 13 or whatever.

Who? Is anyone other than Mel Kiper even mentioning quarterbacks in this draft?

[Countertrey]

Snyder has single-handedly sunk the Washington Redskins organization. He is a schlep-rock.

He is exactly the opposite of a competent owner.

Amidst all of the controversy, and loss of QB's, he signs a domestic violence criminal! That is an awful smear to the team. They're already held in contempt for their controversial mascot name. Doing idiotic things like Doug Williams saying "There are people in higher positions who have done worse and this is small potatoes compared to other things" only throws gasoline on the fire. He should be fired for that. The public opinion is such a huge factor now that you cannot afford to have something like this. Now, Washington is a disease, a virus, that no one wants to be around.

Hiring Kaepernick would have improved their PR and acceptance by huge leaps and bounds. It would have been considered a commendable hire. Snyder is a first-class jerk that will make excuses for a woman-beater and then wonder why the league hates his team and bashes his integrity and ownership. I am almost 51 years old and my father and grandfather were Redskins fans. It's a very sad time.

As long as Snyder owns this team, it will fail.

Seriously???? The singularly most publicly divisive player in the history of the NFL... The fan base is dwindling... and I guarantee that any team hiring him looses another 20-30 % of their fanbase, for a short team gain of special interests. Kapernick was benched in SF for incompetent play... then he decided to make a scene by insulting anyone to whom the flag or National Anthem is important.

Hell, he hasn't even helped Nike. They are still losing market share... and money... and does not disturb me in the least.

[SkinsJock]

nobody can predict what will happen here if this franchise continues to be managed by Snyder and Allen

HOPEFULLY ... Snyder will make some significant changes

we do have some good young players and just need to get rid of the losing culture that these 2 bozos are responsible for

[welch]

Seriously???? The singularly most publicly divisive player in the history of the NFL... The fan base is dwindling... and I guarantee that any team hiring him looses another 20-30 % of their fanbase, for a short team gain of special interests. Kapernick was benched in SF for incompetent play... then he decided to make a scene by insulting anyone to whom the flag or National Anthem is important.

Hell, he hasn't even helped Nike. They are still losing market share... and money... and does not disturb me in the least.

Kaepernick insulted every white supremacist, but he knelt for the National Anthem. That's an act of reverence. Kaepernick appears fine with other NFL players, including Alex Smith, who was the starting QB in San Francisco until Kaepernick won the job.

I can't predict how many NFL fans would stop following pro football. I wonder each time I read another story of a player who has suffered a brain injury, and each time a story reminds me that the NFL squashed every study, throughout the '90s, that suggested the brain injuries had come from repeated hits to and by the head. That pushes me away from the NFL and toward the Nats and even the Caps now that the NHL has reduced the value of goons.

On Kaepernick's playing: as best I remember, he hurt a shoulder in his last season. Even injured, though, he was better than Josh Johnson, who has never a number one QB, or than Buttfumble.

[riggofan]

I'm a combat veteran myself and served six years in the military. I have family members who are law enforcement and I feel strongly about supporting our police. But I also support Kaepernick's peaceful protest. I think there's an issue out there, and he's taken a moral stand to bring awareness on something he feels strongly about. Freedom of speech, freedom to protest is one of the great things about this country.

That said, I completely respect people who don't share my opinion on this. I've seen several posters here who clearly feel strongly against Kaepernick. I don't think you can discount those fans when making a decision on Colin Kaepernick. Whether he can help the team or not (which is debatable), this isn't a franchise that can afford to alienate a big chunk of its long term fanbase. I just don't see it, and I'm kind of tired of seeing it suggested constantly.

Then again, what do I know? Maybe that guy excites the younger fans who aren't paying attention to this team anymore? I guess anything is possible.

I'm not sure what CT was talking about in regards to Nike. After the Kaep ad, Nike stock was up 5% and profits increased $6b.
https://www.vox.com/2018/9/24/17895704/ ... -6-billion

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I don't think you can discount those fans when making a decision on Colin Kaepernick.

I can discount anyone I choose. I know my rights!

[SkinsJock]

I'm a combat veteran myself and served six years in the military. I have family members who are law enforcement and I feel strongly about supporting our police. But I also support Kaepernick's peaceful protest. I think there's an issue out there, and he's taken a moral stand to bring awareness on something he feels strongly about. Freedom of speech, freedom to protest is one of the great things about this country.

That said, I completely respect people who don't share my opinion on this. I've seen several posters here who clearly feel strongly against Kaepernick. I don't think you can discount those fans when making a decision on Colin Kaepernick. Whether he can help the team or not (which is debatable), this isn't a franchise that can afford to alienate a big chunk of its long term fanbase. I just don't see it, and I'm kind of tired of seeing it suggested constantly.

Then again, what do I know? Maybe that guy excites the younger fans who aren't paying attention to this team anymore? I guess anything is possible.
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THIS ^^^ - thanks mate - this covers it well

[riggofan]

I don't think you can discount those fans when making a decision on Colin Kaepernick.

I can discount anyone I choose. I know my rights!

You can! This is a GREAT country!!!

[Countertrey]

Seriously???? The singularly most publicly divisive player in the history of the NFL... The fan base is dwindling... and I guarantee that any team hiring him looses another 20-30 % of their fanbase, for a short team gain of special interests. Kapernick was benched in SF for incompetent play... then he decided to make a scene by insulting anyone to whom the flag or National Anthem is important.

Hell, he hasn't even helped Nike. They are still losing market share... and money... and does not disturb me in the least.

Kaepernick insulted every white supremacist, but he knelt for the National Anthem. That's an act of reverence. Kaepernick appears fine with other NFL players, including Alex Smith, who was the starting QB in San Francisco until Kaepernick won the job.

I can't predict how many NFL fans would stop following pro football. I wonder each time I read another story of a player who has suffered a brain injury, and each time a story reminds me that the NFL squashed every study, throughout the '90s, that suggested the brain injuries had come from repeated hits to and by the head. That pushes me away from the NFL and toward the Nats and even the Caps now that the NHL has reduced the value of goons.

On Kaepernick's playing: as best I remember, he hurt a shoulder in his last season. Even injured, though, he was better than Josh Johnson, who has never a number one QB, or than Buttfumble.

I'm sincerely hoping that YOU are not suggesting that I am a white supremacist... or that I, having devoted 32 years of my life in the service of the country, have no right to find his behavior insulting. I strongly disagree with your laughable assertion that his kneeling was an act of reverence, especially in light of evidence to the contrary (read Cop pig socks), and the accepted demonstration of reverence is to stand silently at attention, facing the colors, with hand over heart. Try kneeling while in military uniform, and then explain how it's a demonstration of reverence. Beyond that, this season is beyond salvage. Why would anyone bring the drama of a polarizing ass into the mix, knowing how little gain in the W/L stats, (if any) could be made?

[welch]

I'm sincerely hoping that YOU are not suggesting that I am a white supremacist...

Of course not, CT. I'm saying that Kaepernick protested against police brutality, in support of a movement claiming that "Black Lives Matter". He did not protest the flag or the National Anthem.

[SkinsJock]

I'm hoping that this franchise will have a different way of doing things next season and that the guys in charge will not add players that abuse women or children or that have character issues - there's a lot of very talented players available who are not of questionable character

I like the idea of drafting the best available player regardless of need - it's also easy because we have so many needs

[welch]

Boswell reminds us to enjoy what Johnson did yesterday:

Q: Redskins QB situation
With there being a good chance Alex Smith's career may be over and Colt McCoy seriously injuring that leg what will the skins do at QB going into next year? The draft is not very QB heavy. Would they go after someone like Flaco and overpay for him? What do you see as the best path forward?

A: Thomas Boswell
Good morning!

Your question is logical and interesting. However, it reminds me of something that's been bugging me for quite a while. It's not at all the fault of your question. But when I look back on the 2010's I may be tempted to think of it as the time when our American sports mantra became: "Let me find a way to look far enough into the future so that I can maximize my chances of being unhappy today."

I suspect that the only two things that Washington fans will remember about the Skins '18 season when we look back in 10 years is Alex Smith's awful injury (and whether he is able to come back from it) AND Josh Johnson's FIRST win as an NFL starter after not playing in the league in more than SEVEN years!!

I talked to an old friend after the game on Sunday and he said, "What a great game! That reminded me of the 'scab win' over Dallas" (13-7 at Dallas, 10/19/87).

He was a pretty decent football player in high school and he saw it with the passion of an ex-player, imaging how great it must have felt to be Josh Johnson, and he had no hint of cynicism or any desire not to enjoy THAT MOMENT as much as it deserved.

My old buddy was similarly amazed that you could beat anybody on the road __even the 4-10 Jags__ with your THIRD string guards __who the heck are Luke Bowanko and Zac Kerin (after Nsekhe went out)? Also, the Skins picked up their long-snapper __Andrew East__ like in the parking lot in Jacksonville, or something. Nick Sundberg had to go on IR.

It really was a pretty amazing __and certainly lucky__ win. But there's a tendency to race into the future as fast as we can. We jump to "what is Johnson's future? Will he replace Colt McCoy as the backup? Or was that his One Shining Moment? What about Smith (unknowable)? What about NEXT YEAR? Who will our QB be? Weak draft class at QB. So, lets look at Flacco! The Ravens have moved on from him....

I understand why we do this __and I suspect the media (me) is as guilty and anybody and maybe the MOST guilty. You can only say, "WOW! They won on the road with Josh Johnson who's been on the team for about 10 minutes!"

I'll get back to Johnson. But to answer (part) of your question: The Ravens probably moved on from Flacco the day they drafted Lamar Jackson. Some wrote it that way on draft day!

The Ravens would prefer to trade Flacco and get something back for him. But he carries a $26.5-million cap hit and that would be a HUGE __or impossible__ burden for a couple of the team's that would want him most __the Skins and Jags. (And yesterday's illustrated why they'd want Flacco! What an offensive stinker except for Johnson.)

The Skins need to wait to figure out Smith's condition. The REALLY, REALLY good news on Sunday was that Smith was BACH HOME. But it'll be a long time before the Skins know how their QB future shapes up. IMO, Flacco is a NO because he's not THAT good and the cap hit is prohibitive.

Got to say that while I like McCoy as a backup QB I think maybe that, in a couple of more weeks, I'll like Johnson even better. While Colt is fast, Johnson is VERY fast. And elusive. And, for now, will take a hit for extra yardage.

Johnson's post-game quotes were wonderful for anybody who missed them in Kareem Copeland's entertaining sidebar.

“I know every opportunity I get could be my last one,” the 32-year-old Johnson said. “That’s just the reality of my situation. I just want to leave it all on the field. I owe this game that much because I love it that much. . . . For me to go out there and not leave it on the field, that would be disrespectful.

“Just everything from my career, I always had belief in myself that I can do things like this. But I’ve never been one to talk about it because talking does nothing. You’ve got to really be about the action. . . . To be able to just have everything that’s been bottled up in me for years and finally just let it out, it was a relief. Honestly, it was.”

However, my favorite quote of his was when he tried to explain his post-game limp and why nobody should worry about whether or not he can play in Tennessee:“I haven’t been hit in two years,” Johnson said with a laugh. “I haven’t played a 300-pound defensive lineman like Calais Campbell and [Yannick] Ngakoue. My body’s getting acclimated. There’s a lot of things I’m doing on speed dial right now.”

Just doin' it on speed dial!

From Q&A with Boswell: https://live.washingtonpost.com/ask-bos ... 81217.html

[SkinsJock]

what an exciting thing for Johnson - to be a part of a team that has a chance at the playoffs - HUGE

Saturday in TN - on national TV, with so much on the line for a 32 year old QB - can't wait - the future is now

[El Mexican]

Defense was huge versus Jax. Less 200 total yards!

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Defense was huge versus Jax. Less 200 total yards!

It was Jacksonville. Jacksonville's offense is possibly the worst in the league. Let's see them do that against Tennessee.

[Countertrey]

Of course not, CT. I'm saying that Kaepernick protested against police brutality, in support of a movement claiming that "Black Lives Matter". He did not protest the flag or the National Anthem.

He knelt, in contempt of every American who believes this sacred... period.

[El Mexican]

Defense was huge versus Jax. Less 200 total yards!

It was Jacksonville. Jacksonville's offense is possibly the worst in the league. Let's see them do that against Tennessee.

Baby steps, man. Baby steps.

[riggofan]

We need more empathy in this world. Period.