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SkinsJock wrote:](*,) why speculate - look at what has happened under Dan Snyder

what on earth makes you think that this franchise will be better this season?

Dan Snyder is not going anywhere but until he stops interfering, nothing will change here
You've done a fantastic job of completely murdering any interesting discussions of the team on this forum. Literally any question or topic anyone poses, this is your answer.

Free agency, the draft, the upcoming season for the Redskins. All topics I'm personally interested in and enjoying discussing with fellow fans. How much Dan Snyder sucks? Kind of done with that one. Don't care.

Seriously every couple weeks I check back on here to see if anybody is talking about what's going on with the Redskins right now. But its 90% just SkinsJock posting this same stupid ass comment over and over. And over. And over.

Have fun with that, friends. Gotta find somewhere people still want to talk about the Redskins.

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so if it isn't burgundy and positive it shouldn't be posted - good luck with that :twisted:

just give me something that makes you think that things are going to be different this season
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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I agree 100% with Riggofan...

We know SKinsjock hates Danny, thinks Bruce is worthless -- does anybody need to read it for the 325th time? COME ON...tell us what you like about the off-season, what you don't...(besides Danny and Bruce are running the team!). I posted something about the moves they've made and you came back AGAIN with the same thing...

There are times I believe you're trolling this board and secretly like the Boys, Eagles, or Giants...

I relate you to a pitbull with a bone...let it go MAN....OR I'm leaving too.
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I like that they resigned Brown. The Smith trade and the Richardson signing remains to be seen.

I am very interested to see what they do with that 13th pick next week?.

Will they get what they need CB, DT, DB or go off the reservation?.

Vea, James or Hughes is the right pick.
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Who should the Redskins draft?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/foo ... 9fe7ccbb47

Who should the Redskins draft?: Tremaine Edmunds vs. Vita Vea

By Kareem Copeland April 13 at 8:00 AM

The NFL Draft is less than two weeks away and the Redskins are in position to grab a Day 1 starter with the No. 13 pick. Four quarterbacks are expected to go early, which should push significant talent down to Washington and there should be top-end options at multiple positions of need. This is the second installment of our side-by-side comparisons between a few players that could be available.

Virginia Tech LB Tremaine Edmunds vs. Washington DT Vita Vea
...and, for the record, I think Bruce Allen is incompetent and vicious. ("Curt Cousins"?) There are too many needs that would normally be fixed by a first round draft choice. LB/NT? RB? TE, assuming that That Guy will be hurt again? CB, without Fuller and Breeland? Safety?

However, Dan Snyder is vicious, incompetent, and as bad as George Preston Marshall.
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let me be clear - I love my Redskins and I wish that these 2 bozos weren't hurting this franchise as badly as they have with their stupidity

I would love to have things get better here but I cannot see how that happens with them managing things

I'd love for the franchise to draft Vita Vea and I hope that Dan gets rid of Bruce soon ...

sorry to lose you :twisted:
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I don't really know what we'll get this fall but I hope it is an improved version of what we have been getting. With Kirk starting the last 3 seasons the team has been mediocre but competitive in almost every game. I want an improvement but a continuation of this in 2018. I want Alex to pass for 4K+ like Kirk did and the defense and run game to be better so the team can win 8+ and look forward to better things in the future. That is what I want, I don't know what we will get.
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fredp45 wrote:I agree 100% with Riggofan...

We know SKinsjock hates Danny, thinks Bruce is worthless -- I posted something about the moves they've made and you came back AGAIN with the same thing ... There are times I believe you're trolling this board and secretly like the Boys, Eagles, or Giants...

I relate you to a pitbull with a bone...let it go MAN....OR I'm leaving too.
bye bye :D

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just so we're clear - it's not just me ... :twisted:

FWIW - I have no problem with the suggestions for which players we should add - the fact is it does not matter who is coaching or playing here as long as this idiot Bruce Allen is running things with Dan Snyder - these bozos have no clue about how to build a franchise

why make suggestions for who might make things better - reality is - this franchise is going to remain a mediocre franchise
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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So, you come on this board, even though you feel nothing they do will make them better, and post the same thing over and over? Sports is suppose to be fun, our release, not a torture - don't make yourself miserable! Go to a fishing blog or golfing blog and spend your time there... "there's NO hope with this team."

I don't like them either, but I continue to root for the team, wonder and discuss who they'll pick and hope the team makes the playoffs (yeah, in spite or your boys)....a part of fall Sundays is watching the Skins play, even if the team is run buy two bozos...I refuse to let them take my Sunday football joy away...

Don't let them take yours away either...
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I'm hopeful that things might change with these 2 bozos in charge - I can't understand those here that think that things could improve, given what has happened under Dan/Bruce & also seem to think that the players & coaches bear responsibility for the mediocre play on the field

it does not matter how good the ingredients are when the guys buying the groceries are not giving the chef what he needs to put a better product on the table
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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Bein we can't draft a new owner or GM, what should we draft? I see all the experts calling for nose tackle or lineman, a couple looking for CB's and even a safety. I want an RB. If you have a weak offfense you better have a strong defense. What do you guys think?
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It must be just as boring typing the "2 bozos" stuff every message as it is writing it. We get it. Most of us agree with it. Let's take it as read and get on with discussing the team we love.
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to be successful in the NFL you need to be able to stop the run and you need to be able to effectively run the ball - simple really ...

we can hope that we draft the players we need to do that well and then we can hope that Dan eventually fires Bruce Allen so we can have a chance at getting better

I know - it's a lot to hope for but it is what it is :D
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/express/ ... d68347837c
Five options for the Redskins in the first round of the NFL draft

By Rick Snider April 20

If the Redskins want to address their two biggest needs, they’ll use their first pick on a nose tackle or a running back in NFL draft, which starts April 26. But alternate plans are necessary in case the players the Redskins like are off the board when they make their first pick at No. 13 overall. Trading down could allow Washington to recoup some value and still address those needs — or possibly get a look at a cornerback or receiver who has fallen. Here are the top players to watch in the first round, according to position.

Nose tackle

The Redskins are looking at Washington’s Vita Vea, left, but there’s a growing fear that Oakland will pick him at No. 10 overall. Alabama’s Da’Ron Payne represents a solid Plan B. Vea’s initial punch is what NFL scouts most love. One step off the snap and boom, he can bull rush past guards and centers. A two-gap defender with tremendous strength could shore up Washington’s long-needed run defense.

Running back

The Redskins appear to love LSU’s Derrius Guice, left, reportedly hosting him at the team complex Monday. In the NFL, that doesn’t mean much. It could be a diversionary tactic to confuse other teams. Guice, a well-balanced runner with power to move the pile, makes a lot of sense for Washington, just not as high as the No. 13 pick. If the Redskins add a pick by trading down, Guice would be a nice fit late in the first round. A handful of quality running backs could be picked on the second or third day — San Diego State’s Rashaad Penny comes to mind — and Washington will likely draft one.

Wide receiver

Washington hasn’t quit on Josh Doctson, who showed signs of growth with six touchdown catches last season after an Achilles injury sidelined the 2016 first-round pick for most of his rookie year. Alabama’s Calvin Ridley, left, could tempt the Redskins to add another player capable of developing into a No. 1 receiver. Ridley can run every route but is best used as a deep threat. Paul Richardson signed in the offseason, but he’s a complementary player. Coach Jay Gruden might lobby for the 6-foot-3 target, who needs to add muscle but is capable of stealing Doctson’s job.

Safety

Another Crimson Tide player, Minkah Fitzpatrick, left, is a new-age hybrid who can play safety and cornerback. Fitzpatrick was a rare freshman starter at Alabama and played both positions there.
Cornerback

If the Redskins drop down, Louisville’s Jaire Alexander, left, could be a candidate to replace Kendall Fuller as the nickel corner.
One conclusion: the Redskins have too many holes to fill with just this draft. We knew this, I expect. Why, then, did the Redskins trade Fuller for Alex Smith and $70 million (??) guaranteed? A year ago, they could have let "Curt" Cousins leave, then started Colt McCoy, and tanked...like the Astros. Take a look at the Jaguars and Bills in 2016 and earlier. Neither might have tanked intentionally -- certainly not for ten (or more!) consecutive years, but it worked out that way. No NFL team has tried it. Do the Redskins have a chance to be really good in 2018?
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welch wrote: .. the Redskins have too many holes to fill with just this draft. We knew this, I expect. Why, then, did the Redskins trade Fuller for Alex Smith and $70 million (??) guaranteed?
A year ago, they could have let "Curt" Cousins leave, then started Colt McCoy, and tanked ... like the Astros.
Take a look at the Jaguars and Bills in 2016 and earlier. Neither might have tanked intentionally -- certainly not for ten (or more!) consecutive years, but it worked out that way.
Do the Redskins have a chance to be really good in 2018?
the answer is no, we're not going to be really good for years

my hope is that we keep on adding good/great players and eventually (hopefully soon) Dan is going to 'see the light', get rid of Bruce Allen, bring in some guys that know what they're doing and give them full authority to rebuild this franchise ... just like most NFL franchises
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Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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hahahahaha

You just can't let it go can you??

Unbelievable...
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fredp45 wrote:hahahahaha You just can't let it go can you?? Unbelievable
you're kidding yourself if you really believe that this franchise can improve with Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen making decisions - you cannot possibly think that these 2 can turn this franchise around

how come most everyone with any sense thinks that this franchise is one of the bottom franchises in the NFL and has no chance of becoming anything more than mediocre while Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen are making all the decisions?

I'm hopeful but I've been waiting a long time for the feeling that the Redskins might be a better unit this season and if we just get this guy or that things will improve - that feeling is not happening until Dan Snyder gets rid of this idiot and stops interfering with the decisions on who should coach and play here

this is a Redskins fan site - why can't we criticize what is going on?

why on earth did we get rid of Fuller for Smith - do you think that is a move that a good FO would make?
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I DO...

QB is so much more important than a slot CB. Fuller is a great player, but he doesn't make the impact of a qb.

I wasn't a Cousins fan so I'm glad to have a qb that won't make 2 good plays followed by a brain fart.

SO, yes, I would make that trade. Of course, I was hoping it was Cravens and not Fuller, but it had to be done.

You certainly have the right to criticize the FO when posting on this board -- YOU just do it every time, absolutely every time you post anything. You could post about another teams free agent punter and somehow you'd weave in (or ram in) - "But Danny and Bruce suck....."

You need to know -- Most Fans agree with you, we just don't need to say it every time or hear it every time...I hold zero hope you can respond to this post without saying, "Danny and Bruce....."
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I agree with welch - the only reason to trade for Smith is if you feel that the team just needs a good QB to make the playoffs - this franchise definitely needs a QB but they are 2 or 3 seasons away from possibly making the playoffs and have so many needs that they should not have given away a good young CB - that money could have been better spent on other players
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Totally agree that the most important player to get and build around is the QB

We missed the chance to sign Cousins to a long term deal and to build around him although I don't think that he's a really good QB

we have many holes that need to be addressed and will need at least 2 or 3 drafts in order to do that - during that time we could get a young QB to build around and by the time he's ready we'll have the O line, offense and defense we need to become a playoff contender

Alex Smith is arguably better than Cousins but we don't need him at this time and we're paying him like a playoff contending team should

this franchise needs a long term plan - what we're doing and have done for years results in mediocre results and much disappointment
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fredp45 wrote: You just can't let it go can you??

Unbelievable...
NO!

the draft is almost here and these 2 bozos have screwed this franchise up so badly that there's little hope for even 7 wins this coming season
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Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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SkinsJock wrote:
fredp45 wrote: You just can't let it go can you??

Unbelievable...
NO!

the draft is almost here and these 2 bozos have screwed this franchise up so badly that there's little hope for even 7 wins this coming season
Friendly wager on those 7 wins my friend? :mrgreen:
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no thanks lpj - I look at the schedule and I'm just frustrated by what has happened here since Snyder came in and especially by the recent BS

there's a reason that our franchise is held in such low regard - it could be all turned around if Snyder would just let others come in and take over managing things like other good franchises

not long ago, at this time of year, I used to look forward to the season and the possibilities - it's hard not to have hope for improvement
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SkinsJock wrote:no thanks lpj - I look at the schedule and I'm just frustrated by what has happened here since Snyder came in and especially by the recent BS

there's a reason that our franchise is held in such low regard - it could be all turned around if Snyder would just let others come in and take over managing things like other good franchises

not long ago, at this time of year, I used to look forward to the season and the possibilities - it's hard not to have hope for improvement
*sigh* I remember I use to say we'll go undefeated with the realistic hope of maybe losing no more than 6 or 7 games. Now it's like I can't even see us winning a few games.

Let Bruce and Doug tell it, EVERYONE coming back from injured reserved will be our saviors. :roll:

I must say I am excited to have J. Allen coming back at least, that guy was a real stud before getting hurt. Other than that I have nothing to be excited about.

I need to ask Browns fans how they have coped with it all their lives. 8-[
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I'm predicting 7-9 due to our terrible D and mediocre running game.

That takes at least three seasons to fix. Until that happens, we're in "sustained mediocrity" territory.
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