Mock draft 2.0

[HEROHAMO]

Just for fun post your mock drafts.

1. Cleveland Browns
Myles Garrett OLB,DE Texas A and M
No brainer. Garrett has all the measurables and the stats.Browns have many needs to fill. This is almost a lock to happen. I haven't seen one mock draft without Garrett at no.1.

2. San Francisco
Jamal Adams S, LSU
Skins keep Kirk no trade. Niners have needs everywhere. Pairing Adams with Saftey Reid would give them two good safties. GM Lynch was a former all pro himself who knows the value of a good safety.

3. Chicago Bears
Solomon Thomas DL, Stanford

4. Jacksonville Jaguars
Leonard Fournette Rb, LSU
Tom Coughlin is old school. Fournette is similar to a former Jaguar RB Fred Davis.

5. Tennessee Titans
Marshon Lattimore CB, Ohio st.

6. New York Jets
Deshaun Watson Qb, Clemson
The Jets need a QB bad. It's a reach here but with a thin Qb class and a win now situation. Watson just defeated an Alabama defense full of NFL talent.

7. L.A. Chargers
Malik Hooker S, Ohio st.

8. Carolina Panthers
Jonathan Allen, DL, Alabama

9. Cincinnati Bengal
Reuben Foster, Lb , Alabama
Bengals just released one of there Lbs Maualuga.

10. Buffalo Bills
Mitch Tribuski, Qb , North Carolina
The Bills need a Qb. The Bills are desperate to win now. They have the longest playoff drought. They will reach and hope.

11. New Orleans Saints
Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan

12. Cleveland Browns
OJ Howard, TE, Alabama

13. Arizona Cardinals
Mike Williams, WR, Clemson

14. Philadelphia Eagles
Adoree Jackson, Cb, USC

15. Indianapolis Colts
Ryan Ramcyzk, OT, Wisconsin

16. Baltimore Ravens
John Ross, WR, Washington

17. Washington Redskins
Christian Mccaffrey, RB, Stanford
Knowing Snyder and Allen like we do. I think this would make a big splash. Also it fills need and provides good value.
Safe pick would be Marlon Humphries cb, Alabama. Another possibility would be Jabril Peppers. Dalvin Cook as well.

18. Tennessee Titans
Jabril Peppers, S,LB, MICHIGAN

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Dalvin Cook, Rb, FSU

20. Denver Broncos
Garrett Bolles, OT, Utah

21. Detroit Lions
Alvin Kamara, Rb, Tennessee

22. Miami Dolphins
Marlon Humphries, Cb, Alabama

23. New York Giants
Taylor Moton, G, Western Michigan

24. Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders
Malik McDowell, DL, Michigan State

25. Houston Texans
Tredavious White, Cb, LSU

26. Seattle Seahawks
Kevin King, Cb, Washington

27. Kansas City Chiefs
Corey Davis, WR,

28. Dallas Cowboys
Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee

29. Green Bay Packers
Hasan Reddick, DL, Temple

30. Pittsburgh Steelers
Charles Harris, DE, Missouri

31. Atlanta Falcons
TJ Watt, Lb, Wisconsin

32. New England Patriots
Chidobe Awuzie , Cb, Colorado
New England always trades down so who knows?

[riggofan]

McCaffrey seems like a risky pick to me. I guess the team could consider it a "splash" move but I'm sure fans would be just as excited by Jabril Peppers if that was a big consideration.

Weaknesses from his NFL.com draft profile are worth reading:

Weaknesses Lacks desired size of an every-down back. Has some tread worn off his tires. Logged 300-plus touches (including returns) in each of the last two seasons and was asked to grind the gears for short yardage carries. Benefitted from physical, downhill offensive line. Takes foot off gas into contact. Doesn't have NFL-caliber power to break tackles and create yardage for himself through power. Can shake tacklers, but lacks a twitchy burst to accelerate away after the cut. On stretch plays, can get too cute continuing to probe towards the perimeter rather than choosing a crease and committing. Average burst may not be enough to race past NFL speed on second level. Inconsistent squaring up blitzers in pass pro and ducks his head into contact.

I was listening to that Bruce Allen interview this week, and was surprised by his attitude toward last year's defense. The word "disgust" comes to mind. With Taco Charlton off the board, I'd guess Malik McDowell goes here at #17.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

McCaffrey seems like a risky pick to me. I guess the team could consider it a "splash" move but I'm sure fans would be just as excited by Jabril Peppers if that was a big consideration.

Weaknesses from his NFL.com draft profile are worth reading:

Weaknesses Lacks desired size of an every-down back. Has some tread worn off his tires. Logged 300-plus touches (including returns) in each of the last two seasons and was asked to grind the gears for short yardage carries. Benefitted from physical, downhill offensive line. Takes foot off gas into contact. Doesn't have NFL-caliber power to break tackles and create yardage for himself through power. Can shake tacklers, but lacks a twitchy burst to accelerate away after the cut. On stretch plays, can get too cute continuing to probe towards the perimeter rather than choosing a crease and committing. Average burst may not be enough to race past NFL speed on second level. Inconsistent squaring up blitzers in pass pro and ducks his head into contact.

I was listening to that Bruce Allen interview this week, and was surprised by his attitude toward last year's defense. The word "disgust" comes to mind. With Taco Charlton off the board, I'd guess Malik McDowell goes here at #17.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that there is a zero percent chance the Skins draft McCaffrey with Dalvin Cook and Jabril Peppers still on the board.

Quick. Someone name the last good White running back. I'll give you a hint. He wore #44.

[riggofan]

Someone name the last good White running back. I'll give you a hint. He wore #44.

Doesn't count. Riggins had a sweet afro.

[DEHog]

Bet this guy has a great year!

[HEROHAMO]

McCaffrey seems like a risky pick to me. I guess the team could consider it a "splash" move but I'm sure fans would be just as excited by Jabril Peppers if that was a big consideration.

Weaknesses from his NFL.com draft profile are worth reading:

Weaknesses Lacks desired size of an every-down back. Has some tread worn off his tires. Logged 300-plus touches (including returns) in each of the last two seasons and was asked to grind the gears for short yardage carries. Benefitted from physical, downhill offensive line. Takes foot off gas into contact. Doesn't have NFL-caliber power to break tackles and create yardage for himself through power. Can shake tacklers, but lacks a twitchy burst to accelerate away after the cut. On stretch plays, can get too cute continuing to probe towards the perimeter rather than choosing a crease and committing. Average burst may not be enough to race past NFL speed on second level. Inconsistent squaring up blitzers in pass pro and ducks his head into contact.

I was listening to that Bruce Allen interview this week, and was surprised by his attitude toward last year's defense. The word "disgust" comes to mind. With Taco Charlton off the board, I'd guess Malik McDowell goes here at #17.

I understand the concern on durability. Due to Mccaffrey getting 300 plus carries.
However Mccaffrey Is still a young man.
Also when it comes to production Mccaffrey holds the all time record for all purpose yards at 3200 plus yards in one season. All time! At the end of the day it's about how much did you contribute to your team.


Compared to every prospect in the draft Mccaffrey is top 3 productivity on the field. That's got to be accounted for when evaluating these prospects.

I wouldn't mind picking up Peppers at 17. However Peppers has 1 career INT. Peppers has a lot of tackles and can provide special teams help as well. But in terms of production Mccaffrey is ahead.

McDowell seems like a great prospect as well. The value of an interior defensive lineman who can also rush the Passer is huge. Personally I'd rather go DT or LB in the 2nd round.
Unless Jonathan Allen or Solomon Thomas drop.
Either way I wouldn't be disappointed.

I think if we decide to go defense we can't go wrong with CB in the 1st. CB is high value position and the draft is deep with talented Dbs. Drafting a solid corner fills need, provides good value at no.17. I think if Adams and Hooker go before no.17. Then I would take Marlon Humphries over Jabril Peppers or Malik McDowell if defense is the direction.

If we find a pro bowl player at RB, S,CB,ILB, DT or even LG at no.17 then it's job well done. No complaints here.

[HEROHAMO]

McCaffrey seems like a risky pick to me. I guess the team could consider it a "splash" move but I'm sure fans would be just as excited by Jabril Peppers if that was a big consideration.

Weaknesses from his NFL.com draft profile are worth reading:

Weaknesses Lacks desired size of an every-down back. Has some tread worn off his tires. Logged 300-plus touches (including returns) in each of the last two seasons and was asked to grind the gears for short yardage carries. Benefitted from physical, downhill offensive line. Takes foot off gas into contact. Doesn't have NFL-caliber power to break tackles and create yardage for himself through power. Can shake tacklers, but lacks a twitchy burst to accelerate away after the cut. On stretch plays, can get too cute continuing to probe towards the perimeter rather than choosing a crease and committing. Average burst may not be enough to race past NFL speed on second level. Inconsistent squaring up blitzers in pass pro and ducks his head into contact.

I was listening to that Bruce Allen interview this week, and was surprised by his attitude toward last year's defense. The word "disgust" comes to mind. With Taco Charlton off the board, I'd guess Malik McDowell goes here at #17.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that there is a zero percent chance the Skins draft McCaffrey with Dalvin Cook and Jabril Peppers still on the board.

Quick. Someone name the last good White running back. I'll give you a hint. He wore #44.

Bro, Mccaffrey holds the all time record for all purpose yards. A record once held by Barry Sanders.
Mccaffrey isn't slow either 4.4.In fact he's a burner. Any concern about him definitely should not be based on his speed. Sure he's a little light in weight. Maybe add ten pounds?

To be honest Cook and Mccaffrey are similar physically. Mccaffrey was more productive though not by a whole lot but Mccaffrey does hold the record.

Mccaffrey had 400 yards in one game. That's ridiculous.

[oj]

You guys know I want, just in case you think I'm asleep at the wheel.

[markshark84]

If we draft McCaffrey, that tells me all I need to know ---- Danny boy is back in charge and not using Scot or anyone else with a shred of football knowledge's draft suggestions. Same if we draft Peppers. Both garbage picks at 17. We already have 1 too many "hybrid" LB-SS on our roster..... I'm not saying they will be good or bad players, I'm saying that taking either of them at 17 is "reaching" --- something this franchise has done again and again and again for years upon years ---- and the #1 reason we are a joke within the front offices of quality NFL franchises.

Taking a player even 1 or 2 places ahead is a loss on value --- considering we got a 6th rounder while trading down 1 single spot in the first round last year..... Precision is so important in the draft process and Dumb & Dumber 2.0 aren't exactly that.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Bro, Mccaffrey holds the all time record for all purpose yards. A record once held by Barry Sanders.
Mccaffrey isn't slow either 4.4.In fact he's a burner. Any concern about him definitely should not be based on his speed. Sure he's a little light in weight. Maybe add ten pounds?

To be honest Cook and Mccaffrey are similar physically. Mccaffrey was more productive though not by a whole lot but Mccaffrey does hold the record.

Mccaffrey had 400 yards in one game. That's ridiculous.

Yea, I'll take the guy who played in the SEC over the guy who played in the PAC-12. By the way, Cook reportedly ran a 4.4 today at his pro day.

[HEROHAMO]

Can't say I blame you one bit.

[oj]

Bro, Mccaffrey holds the all time record for all purpose yards. A record once held by Barry Sanders.
Mccaffrey isn't slow either 4.4.In fact he's a burner. Any concern about him definitely should not be based on his speed. Sure he's a little light in weight. Maybe add ten pounds?

To be honest Cook and Mccaffrey are similar physically. Mccaffrey was more productive though not by a whole lot but Mccaffrey does hold the record.

Mccaffrey had 400 yards in one game. That's ridiculous.

Yea, I'll take the guy who played in the SEC over the guy who played in the PAC-12. By the way, Cook reportedly ran a 4.4 today at his pro day.

I'm with you but don't believe Cook will be available at 17th. I doubt Mack will be there either.
What about FG kickers, any killer kickers available? We need one of them too, offense score points and kickers win games.

[RigAr4456]

Bro, Mccaffrey holds the all time record for all purpose yards. A record once held by Barry Sanders.
Mccaffrey isn't slow either 4.4.In fact he's a burner. Any concern about him definitely should not be based on his speed. Sure he's a little light in weight. Maybe add ten pounds?

To be honest Cook and Mccaffrey are similar physically. Mccaffrey was more productive though not by a whole lot but Mccaffrey does hold the record.

Mccaffrey had 400 yards in one game. That's ridiculous.

Yea, I'll take the guy who played in the SEC over the guy who played in the PAC-12. By the way, Cook reportedly ran a 4.4 today at his pro day.

I'm with you but don't believe Cook will be available at 17th. I doubt Mack will be there either.
What about FG kickers, any killer kickers available? We need one of them too, offense score points and kickers win games.

I'm assuming the part about drafting a kicker in the 1st rd. is sarcasm. It's bad enough hearing a few fans wanting to take a running back with the 17th overall, but a kicker...?!

[riggofan]

I'm assuming the part about drafting a kicker in the 1st rd. is sarcasm. It's bad enough hearing a few fans wanting to take a running back with the 17th overall, but a kicker...?!

I would not assume that.

[oj]

No, didn't imply kicker at 17th as much as bringing up the need for one. I recall loosing 2 games due to missed FG's that were very doable, those misses kept us out of the playoffs. So if there is a Chip Lohemiller in the draft I would do what it takes to make him a Skin. I don't know if there is, thats why I asked.

[HEROHAMO]

Mock draft 2.0

In this edition I decided to present a very real possibility for us. What if every team picks BPA before us? It's possible that Cook, Fournette and Mccaffrey are gone by no.17. The success that Elliott had last year could make teams want to draft a RB as well.
In this scenario no teams were willing to trade with us.

Also I took into account the retirement of Tony Romo.


1. Myles Garrett DE,Texas A n M, Cleveland Browns
2. Jamal Adams S, LSU, San Francisco 49ers
3. Jonathan Allen DL,Alabama, Chicago Bears
4. Leonard Fournette RB, LSU, Jacksonville Jaguars
5. Marshon Lattimore CB, OHIO ST., Tennessee Titans
6. Dalvin Cook Rb, Florida st., New York Jets
The Jets need offense. They have nothing. This would make sense for them.
7. Malik Hooker S, Ohio st., San Diego Chargers
8. Reuben Foster Lb, Alabama, Carolina Panthers
9. Solomon Thomas DL, Stanford,Cincinnati Bengals
10. OJ Howard,Te, Alabama , Buffalo Bills
11. Derek Barnett DE, Tennessee, New Orleans Saints
12. Christian Mccaffrey Rb, Stanford, Cleveland Browns
13. Mike Williams, WR, Clemson,Arizona Cardinals
14. Tredavious White CB, LSU, Philadelphia Eagles
15. Hasan Reddick LB, Temple, Indianapolis Colts
16. Takarist Mckinley, LB, UCLA, Baltimore Ravens
17. Marlon Humphrey CB, ALABAMA, Washington Redskins
18. Gareon Conley, Cb, Ole Miss, Tennessee Titans
19. Jabril Peppers, S, Michigan, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
20. Cam Robinson T, ALABAMA, Denver Broncos
21. Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan, Detroit Lions
22. Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan, Miami Dolphins
23. Ryan Ramcyzk, T, Wisconsin, New York Giants
24. Malik McDowell, DT, Michigan st., Oakland Raiders
25. Mitch Tribuski , Qb, North Carolina , Houston Texans
26. Kevin King, Cb, Washington, Seattle Seahawks
27. Deshaun Watson, Qb, Clemson, Kansas City Chiefs
28. TJ Watt, Lb, Wisconsin, Dallas Cowboys
29. Adoree Jackson, Cb, USC, Green Bay Packers
30. Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida, Pittsburgh Steelers
31. Evan Ingram, TE, Ole Miss, Atlanta Falcons
32. Budda Baker, S, Washington, New England Patriots

[riggofan]

Just running some mock drafts myself the past week or two, I've ended up taking TJ Watt a few times. Probably not at 17, but maybe after moving down a few spots. Any opinions on him? I know he's a guy the team has scheduled to visit.

[riggofan]

This was my draft today. Accepted no trades and mostly followed what was available on the boards. Didn't get an early RB, but I'd be happy with these.

Curious looking at this draft what others think about continuing to add offensive linemen? I like our line right now, but depth is an issue.

17: R1P17
DL TACO CHARLTON
MICHIGAN
49: R2P17
G DORIAN JOHNSON
PITTSBURGH
81: R3P17
DL DALVIN TOMLINSON
ALABAMA
114: R4P7
S JUSTIN EVANS
TEXAS A&M
123: R4P16
C TYLER ORLOSKY
WEST VIRGINIA
154: R5P10
S JOHN JOHNSON
BOSTON COLLEGE
201: R6P17
DL STEVIE TU'IKOLOVATU
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
209: R6P25
TE MICHAEL ROBERTS
TOLEDO
220: R7P2
CB CHANNING STRIBLING
MICHIGAN
235: R7P17
CB NATE HAIRSTON
TEMPLE

[HEROHAMO]

Just running some mock drafts myself the past week or two, I've ended up taking TJ Watt a few times. Probably not at 17, but maybe after moving down a few spots. Any opinions on him? I know he's a guy the team has scheduled to visit.

I like TJ Watt. I'd prefer wed be able to trade down and draft him. However I would be happy taking him even at 17.

Watt seems to always be in the backfield. Holds his ground against the run as well.

[riggofan]

I've been messing with how the draft looks if the team were to take a RB in the first round. I know some people have spoken in favor of that. I don't think its crazy or anything, but I'm stating to think it depends on what the plan is with Cousins.

If the team thinks they're only going to get one more year with Kirk, then maybe its worth drafting a beast RB in the first round. The offense is pretty good now. *Maybe* that RB is enough to push them further and make up some for the bad defense. Kind of roll the dice on this team that looks like its built for a single year?

If the team believes they'll be able to keep Kirk long term, then I think a first round RB is too much of a luxury right now. A good draft this year, including a first round defensive player at DL, safety, LB, etc; to help restock the defense would be the smarter move IMO. Continue to build something solid for the longer term.

[riggofan]

I like TJ Watt. I'd prefer wed be able to trade down and draft him. However I would be happy taking him even at 17.

Watt seems to always be in the backfield. Holds his ground against the run as well.

I was wondering if he was living off the "JJ's brother" thing. But seems like there is a lot of legit interest in him as a top pick. I like what I've read about him too.

[HEROHAMO]

I've been messing with how the draft looks if the team were to take a RB in the first round. I know some people have spoken in favor of that. I don't think its crazy or anything, but I'm stating to think it depends on what the plan is with Cousins.

If the team thinks they're only going to get one more year with Kirk, then maybe its worth drafting a beast RB in the first round. The offense is pretty good now. *Maybe* that RB is enough to push them further and make up some for the bad defense. Kind of roll the dice on this team that looks like its built for a single year?

If the team believes they'll be able to keep Kirk long term, then I think a first round RB is too much of a luxury right now. A good draft this year, including a first round defensive player at DL, safety, LB, etc; to help restock the defense would be the smarter move IMO. Continue to build something solid for the longer term.

I think our FO clearly want to keep Kirk. It's just the contract they can't agree on at this point in time.

There's no reason to think Kirk can't take another step forward. Especially since he's already working with the recievers.

If Kirk does take a step forward. That should equal playoffs.
If that's the case next off season. Coming off a playoff run?
Why wouldn't our FO not pay him?

I am confident Snyder will pay if Kirk just continues his progression. A playoff win would justify a big contract.

At the same time I believe a RB would help take off some pressure. Either way it's not a luxury to draft a legit workhorse Rb.
In my opinion drafting a Cook or Mccaffrey is the fastest way to take a step forward.

Just think about. We need to improve in the red zone on offense. We need to drastically improve on defense.
Which problem could we change faster?
One player could boost the team so much.

Vs Drafting well on a number of picks to improve a huge problem on defense.
In my time on earth I have learned. When you have multiple tasks on hand. It's best to get the easiest task done first.

Gruden is going to have a much bigger say this draft. If Cook,Mccaffrey or Fournette are there at 17? Then I do think it's a RB.

[HEROHAMO]

This was my draft today. Accepted no trades and mostly followed what was available on the boards. Didn't get an early RB, but I'd be happy with these.

Curious looking at this draft what others think about continuing to add offensive linemen? I like our line right now, but depth is an issue.

17: R1P17
DL TACO CHARLTON
MICHIGAN
49: R2P17
G DORIAN JOHNSON
PITTSBURGH
81: R3P17
DL DALVIN TOMLINSON
ALABAMA
114: R4P7
S JUSTIN EVANS
TEXAS A&M
123: R4P16
C TYLER ORLOSKY
WEST VIRGINIA
154: R5P10
S JOHN JOHNSON
BOSTON COLLEGE
201: R6P17
DL STEVIE TU'IKOLOVATU
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
209: R6P25
TE MICHAEL ROBERTS
TOLEDO
220: R7P2
CB CHANNING STRIBLING
MICHIGAN
235: R7P17
CB NATE HAIRSTON
TEMPLE

Hmmm...
What I like about Taco is his size. He'd help against the run and provide a pass rush.

Viewing your picks. I think you picked some solid players. From what I see I think the defense would improve against the run for sure. You could probably throw Stevie at NT. We'd also have depth at S. G in the 2nd should boost run game.

What about a LB?
I would take TJ Watt over Taco. Why? To me Taco is similar to Preston Smith. I don't know why Taco is ahead of Watt. Watt had more sacks and tackles in same division. You could line Watt up as a 4-3, DE, or any LB spot.

[riggofan]

Viewing your picks. I think you picked some solid players. From what I see I think the defense would improve against the run for sure. You could probably throw Stevie at NT. We'd also have depth at S. G in the 2nd should boost run game.

Yeah I keep seeing STEVIE TU'IKOLOVATU suggested as a later round guy who might be able to help at NT eventually. Sounds like a guy to keep an eye on in the draft.

Any thoughts on Tyler Orlosky? Seems like we're lacking depth at center for sure. And if we can draft one might eventually be able to move Spencer Long back to guard.

What about a LB?
I would take TJ Watt over Taco. Why? To me Taco is similar to Preston Smith. I don't know why Taco is ahead of Watt. Watt had more sacks and tackles in same division. You could line Watt up as a 4-3, DE, or any LB spot.

I think it depends on what position you see Taco playing. If you're looking at him as an OLB, I see the comparison to Preston Smith, and I agree that I would probably take Watt instead.

[riggofan]

At the same time I believe a RB would help take off some pressure. Either way it's not a luxury to draft a legit workhorse Rb.
In my opinion drafting a Cook or Mccaffrey is the fastest way to take a step forward.

Just think about. We need to improve in the red zone on offense. We need to drastically improve on defense.
Which problem could we change faster?
One player could boost the team so much.

Vs Drafting well on a number of picks to improve a huge problem on defense.
In my time on earth I have learned. When you have multiple tasks on hand. It's best to get the easiest task done first.

No, I definitely agree with what you're saying here, man. Agree 100%. Its a really good offense with Kirk under center now. And you add a legit stud RB to the mix?

My point is if you lose Kirk in 2018, I'm not sure where that leaves you. If the next QB is McCoy or a young draft pick, I'd be concerned that your offense takes a big step back, and you still haven't addressed the defense enough to help.

I'm kind of pessimistic right now about the Kirk contract. I know Snyder is capable of throwing a lot of money at him, just seems like that situation has gotten out of control and probably isn't as simple anymore.