Joe Jacoby

[Deadskins]

Jacoby became a first-time finalist last year in his 18th year of eligibility and pulled one of the biggest surprises when he made the cut to 10. He is not what you’d call a favorite this year, but because he went so deep into the vote a year ago as a first-time finalist he is considered a wildcard for the Class of 2017.

Sad. The voters should get their heads out of their butts.

[DEHog]

Jacoby became a first-time finalist last year in his 18th year of eligibility and pulled one of the biggest surprises when he made the cut to 10. He is not what you’d call a favorite this year, but because he went so deep into the vote a year ago as a first-time finalist he is considered a wildcard for the Class of 2017.

Sad. The voters should get their heads out of their butts.

They right the ship in 11 days!!

[gushogs]

I was very happy when Russ got induced, but never understood how he got in before Jacoby. In those day and I still think it is, the Redskins play in the toughest division of the NFL, for Jacoby that meant squaring off twice a year with the likes of LT, Randy White, Too tall Jones, Reggie White, Jerome Brown, Carl Banks, Leonard Marshall and many more. Also in those years the National Conference won all but one superbowl from 1982 to 1993, with 3 Redskins rings. No need to mention the Bears or 49ers D of those days.

Joe Jacoby to the HOF

HaiL,

[DEHog]

I was very happy when Russ got induced, but never understood how he got in before Jacoby. In those day and I still think it is, the Redskins play in the toughest division of the NFL, for Jacoby that meant squaring off twice a year with the likes of LT, Randy White, Too tall Jones, Reggie White, Jerome Brown, Carl Banks, Leonard Marshall and many more. Also in those years the National Conference won all but one superbowl from 1982 to 1993, with 3 Redskins rings. No need to mention the Bears or 49ers D of those days.

Joe Jacoby to the HOF

HaiL,

There are many who feel the same way, Russ was a great player! Riggins said on the radio a few weeks ago he would have put Joe in first. Wish Russ would would be a bit more vocal over the new 10 days!

[DEHog]

3...

[DEHog]

2...

[DEHog]

1...Day until Joe is voted in!!! He's has arrived in Houston...I'm going to have to talk to him about the company he keeps!!

[riggofan]

good article if you missed it yesterday from Keim/ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-red ... ll-of-fame
It's time to put Redskins great Joe Jacoby in the Hall of Fame

Let's get right to it: Joe Jacoby belongs in the Hall of Fame. The former Washington Redskins offensive tackle is a finalist for a second straight year. He apparently made a late run to get near induction last year.

Now, it needs to happen. Here's why he belongs:

He was better than Russ Grimm. OK, that's the opinion of one teammate, former center Jeff Bostic, who played with both -- and who loves both. Grimm was (rightfully) inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2010. Jacoby played more years (13 to 11), made more starts (148 to 114) and played a tougher position. Grimm earned more All-Pro honors (four to two). Again: Grimm belongs in the Hall. But if he's in there, why isn't Jacoby?
Right tackle Joe Jacoby played in 19 postseason games with the Redskins. Focus on Sport/Getty Images

"This is no slight on Russ, but Joe was a better player," Bostic said. "I don't think the NFL had seen a guy like Jacoby when he came on the scene. This guy was 6-8, 330, 340 pounds. He ran a 5.1 in the 40. For a guy his size, I've never seen anyone run like he could. He was strong as an ox. The beauty of what I'm seeing this year, I'm hearing the Randy Whites, Chris Dolemans ... I'm hearing people he played against saying he needs to be in the Hall of Fame."

Here's Doleman, speaking with the Talk of Fame Sports network, when asked whether he'd choose Jacoby or fellow nominee Tony Boselli: "If I had to pick one, I would go with Joe Jacoby. Just for the simple fact that Joe Jacoby lined up against Lawrence Taylor two times a year. When he played Dallas, he always had to play either Charles Haley or one of the great defensive ends that were coming from that side of the ball.

"His works speak for themselves. This is his 19th year of eligibility, and if we don’t recognize him now, when are we going to recognize him?"

Finally, here's Charley Casserly, who found Jacoby as a scout and later became the Redskins' general manager: "It clinched it for me when Russ got in. He was certainly deserving, but Joe played against the hardest you could play. He played vs. Lawrence Taylor and Clyde Simmons. He was a great player."

His game. Jacoby wasn't just a big man. The Redskins' counter trey worked because of Grimm and Jacoby and their ability to block on the move. Though Jacoby was not quite as large as Bostic remembered -- he was actually 6-foot-7, 295 pounds (and probably inched past 300) -- he was one of the biggest players at the time. Yet, he could move.

"My quickness and footwork helped me be the player that I was," Jacoby said.

More Casserly: "He was just a bulldozer as a run-blocker. He could knock people off the ball. He could power block. It's rare when a left tackle could power block. He was a good pass-blocker with long arms and size and on the counter trey he pulled. Look at today's game and how many can power block and pull and block the outside rusher? Almost none of them can power block. It's rare."

History. This is the most confusing part. The Redskins won three Super Bowls between 1982 and 1991 and played in a fourth. They played in the NFC East during a period in which the other coaches included Bill Parcells, Tom Landry (until 1988) and then Jimmy Johnson. From the time Jacoby entered the NFL in 1981 and then left after the '93 season, teams from this division played in eight Super Bowls.

"To get out of the division was murder," Casserly said.

Yet the Redskins only have four Hall of Fame players from this era -- Grimm, Art Monk, Darrell Green and John Riggins -- and coach Joe Gibbs. In comparison, the 1970s Steelers, who won four Super Bowls in six years, have nine Hall of Fame players and coach Chuck Noll. The Steelers might have had the best run of all time with what they accomplished in that span, so it's not a direct comparison. San Francisco's successful run in the 1980s and early '90s resulted in six Hall of Famers, including coach Bill Walsh. It doesn't have to be even, of course.

However, the Redskins also won with three different quarterbacks (none of whom are in the Hall of Fame, nor should be) and three different running backs. Riggins set the Super Bowl rushing mark in his one victory; Timmy Smith -- Timmy Smith! -- broke it in his one start. Then, in the year of the third trip, the Redskins only allowed nine sacks all season.

There was one constant: the line. Jacoby was the anchor. He started all 19 playoff games the Redskins played in during his time (Grimm, by contrast, started 11 -- and none in the last two Super Bowl playoff runs).

"It's insulting that we only have one guy in the Hall of Fame," Bostic said of the line.

But that can be corrected Saturday. It's time.

[DEHog]

good article if you missed it yesterday from Keim/ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-red ... ll-of-fame
It's time to put Redskins great Joe Jacoby in the Hall of Fame

Let's get right to it: Joe Jacoby belongs in the Hall of Fame. The former Washington Redskins offensive tackle is a finalist for a second straight year. He apparently made a late run to get near induction last year.

Now, it needs to happen. Here's why he belongs:

He was better than Russ Grimm. OK, that's the opinion of one teammate, former center Jeff Bostic, who played with both -- and who loves both. Grimm was (rightfully) inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2010. Jacoby played more years (13 to 11), made more starts (148 to 114) and played a tougher position. Grimm earned more All-Pro honors (four to two). Again: Grimm belongs in the Hall. But if he's in there, why isn't Jacoby?
Right tackle Joe Jacoby played in 19 postseason games with the Redskins. Focus on Sport/Getty Images

"This is no slight on Russ, but Joe was a better player," Bostic said. "I don't think the NFL had seen a guy like Jacoby when he came on the scene. This guy was 6-8, 330, 340 pounds. He ran a 5.1 in the 40. For a guy his size, I've never seen anyone run like he could. He was strong as an ox. The beauty of what I'm seeing this year, I'm hearing the Randy Whites, Chris Dolemans ... I'm hearing people he played against saying he needs to be in the Hall of Fame."

Here's Doleman, speaking with the Talk of Fame Sports network, when asked whether he'd choose Jacoby or fellow nominee Tony Boselli: "If I had to pick one, I would go with Joe Jacoby. Just for the simple fact that Joe Jacoby lined up against Lawrence Taylor two times a year. When he played Dallas, he always had to play either Charles Haley or one of the great defensive ends that were coming from that side of the ball.

"His works speak for themselves. This is his 19th year of eligibility, and if we don’t recognize him now, when are we going to recognize him?"

Finally, here's Charley Casserly, who found Jacoby as a scout and later became the Redskins' general manager: "It clinched it for me when Russ got in. He was certainly deserving, but Joe played against the hardest you could play. He played vs. Lawrence Taylor and Clyde Simmons. He was a great player."

His game. Jacoby wasn't just a big man. The Redskins' counter trey worked because of Grimm and Jacoby and their ability to block on the move. Though Jacoby was not quite as large as Bostic remembered -- he was actually 6-foot-7, 295 pounds (and probably inched past 300) -- he was one of the biggest players at the time. Yet, he could move.

"My quickness and footwork helped me be the player that I was," Jacoby said.

More Casserly: "He was just a bulldozer as a run-blocker. He could knock people off the ball. He could power block. It's rare when a left tackle could power block. He was a good pass-blocker with long arms and size and on the counter trey he pulled. Look at today's game and how many can power block and pull and block the outside rusher? Almost none of them can power block. It's rare."

History. This is the most confusing part. The Redskins won three Super Bowls between 1982 and 1991 and played in a fourth. They played in the NFC East during a period in which the other coaches included Bill Parcells, Tom Landry (until 1988) and then Jimmy Johnson. From the time Jacoby entered the NFL in 1981 and then left after the '93 season, teams from this division played in eight Super Bowls.

"To get out of the division was murder," Casserly said.

Yet the Redskins only have four Hall of Fame players from this era -- Grimm, Art Monk, Darrell Green and John Riggins -- and coach Joe Gibbs. In comparison, the 1970s Steelers, who won four Super Bowls in six years, have nine Hall of Fame players and coach Chuck Noll. The Steelers might have had the best run of all time with what they accomplished in that span, so it's not a direct comparison. San Francisco's successful run in the 1980s and early '90s resulted in six Hall of Famers, including coach Bill Walsh. It doesn't have to be even, of course.

However, the Redskins also won with three different quarterbacks (none of whom are in the Hall of Fame, nor should be) and three different running backs. Riggins set the Super Bowl rushing mark in his one victory; Timmy Smith -- Timmy Smith! -- broke it in his one start. Then, in the year of the third trip, the Redskins only allowed nine sacks all season.

There was one constant: the line. Jacoby was the anchor. He started all 19 playoff games the Redskins played in during his time (Grimm, by contrast, started 11 -- and none in the last two Super Bowl playoff runs).

"It's insulting that we only have one guy in the Hall of Fame," Bostic said of the line.

But that can be corrected Saturday. It's time.

Yes saw that...we thought Keim might be the one who made the argument for Joe this year but Elfin didn't give it up...there was an article about him this week he is writing for some trucking mag now???

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I think we need to reconsider the importance of the Hall Of Fame.

[DarthMonk]

^^^ I thought about it.

[DEHog]

i'am at a losss...I know one thing, the bar for a first ballot HOFer was lowered yesterday!!

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

i'am at a losss...I know one thing, the bar for a first ballot HOFer was lowered yesterday!!

Terrell Davis gets in but Larry Brown, Terrell Owens, and Joe Jacoby still wait.

What a joke. The Hall Of Fame will never see a dime from me.

[DEHog]

Voters didn't do Jake any favors....Lewis, Barber, Moss and Urlacher all eligible next year!!!

[DEHog]

Here's the real head scratcher from the PFHOF2017 vote...How does a kicker who did not make the first cut in 2016 leapfrog over a coach (Coyell), a safety (Lynch), and a LT (Jacoby) who were all in the top 10 of last year's voting...Did Morten Andersen kick a few more FG's this past year???

[welch]

Disgusting. Unbelievable. Idiocy: Kurt Warner voted into the HoF but not Joe Jacoby?????

Who were the other? Terrell Davis? Who? Sure, Davis had a shortened career, but what about Larry Brown? Remember: just after Jim Brown retired, he was asked what then-active runners most impressed him. Without hesitation, Jim Brown answered, "Larry Brown. He does things I could never do", meaning Larry Brown's quick takeoff, his pass-receiving, his blocking.

What did the other new HoF members do? Jason Taylor? Did Jason Taylor make it because defensive players can be linked to stats -- sacks, fumble recoveries, passes intercepted or defensed? If so, shouldn't an offensive lineman be rated by yards gained rushing and passing?

By the stats, Joe Jacoby steps on anyone else. Consider the stats in the playoffs leading to SB 17 and SB 26.

[gushogs]

SADLY IMPRESSED that Joe didn't make it to the HOF.

Terrell Davis in???? why???? this is a travesty!!!!

HaiL,

[DarthMonk]

Criminal.

[Countertrey]

Envision, if you will, an expletive laden rant.

Drop mic...

[DEHog]

Criminal.

No yet criminal would be not voting him in as a modern era player!! That will happen if he doesn't get in next year!

[riggofan]

I heard C00ley talking about this some on Monday, and I think he made a good point that Jacoby has been (unfairly) hurt by not being media involved, etc; after his football career. Guys like Davis who have continued to work in the media and be around football get an unfair boost from these idiots who make up the voting group. The whole thing stinks. 25+ years later, people still point to the 91 team as the great SB team ever. How many HoF'ers we got from that group?

Three super bowl wins. Four super bowl appearances. Four straight pro bowls. One of the greatest offensive linemen of all time from THE greatest offensive line of all time.

I would add that I mean no offense to Terrell Davis or Kurt Warner. I think both of those guys deserve their places in the HoF as well. I think its just deeply disrespectful to a deserving guy like Jacoby and to this fan base to continue to leave him out.

[Deadskins]

I heard C00ley talking about this some on Monday, and I think he made a good point that Jacoby has been (unfairly) hurt by not being media involved, etc; after his football career. Guys like Davis who have continued to work in the media and be around football get an unfair boost from these idiots who make up the voting group. The whole thing stinks. 25+ years later, people still point to the 91 team as the great SB team ever. How many HoF'ers we got from that group?

Three super bowl wins. Four super bowl appearances. Four straight pro bowls. One of the greatest offensive linemen of all time from THE greatest offensive line of all time.

I would add that I mean no offense to Terrell Davis or Kurt Warner. I think both of those guys deserve their places in the HoF as well. I think its just deeply disrespectful to a deserving guy like Jacoby and to this fan base to continue to leave him out.

Absolutely. This is why Art Monk was inducted after Michael Irvin. If Monk were on TV every week, then he would have been a shoo in like he should have been.

[DEHog]

I heard C00ley talking about this some on Monday, and I think he made a good point that Jacoby has been (unfairly) hurt by not being media involved, etc; after his football career. Guys like Davis who have continued to work in the media and be around football get an unfair boost from these idiots who make up the voting group. The whole thing stinks. 25+ years later, people still point to the 91 team as the great SB team ever. How many HoF'ers we got from that group?

Three super bowl wins. Four super bowl appearances. Four straight pro bowls. One of the greatest offensive linemen of all time from THE greatest offensive line of all time.

I would add that I mean no offense to Terrell Davis or Kurt Warner. I think both of those guys deserve their places in the HoF as well. I think its just deeply disrespectful to a deserving guy like Jacoby and to this fan base to continue to leave him out.

Yes… I spoke with "some people" on Sunday and they said the same thing...but the thing that they mentioned as unbelievable was that Jason Taylor was voted in on the first ballot

[DEHog]

Well the 2017 Class has been enshrined and it’s time to rev the campaign back up for Joe Jacoby!! I know many will say it’s a long shot with the likes of Lewis, Moss and Urlacher now eligible. But we (I guess it’s time I came out of the closet, I was a Hogette the last ten years the group existed) are not going to go down without a fight. This is Joe’s last year of eligibility as a modern-day nominee and it would be criminal to see him go into the abyss that is the seniors committee. I beg you to please drop a note to the voters…they read them trust me! I have gotten numerous replies from them about Joe; most of them love to hear from the fans...word of caution keep it short! Follow us (Hogettes) on Twitter and Facebook and retweet and shared the memes we’ve made for Joe. This year we are going to push hard for the D.C. media to do more!! I’m really optimistic, while I really thought 2017 was his year, not one OL got in?? So you know 1 if not 2 are going to go in. So let do this!! I can tell you Joe is one of the most humble guys you’d ever want to meet; especially for a man who has accomplished what he has…he is so appreciative of what the fans are doing for him!!

P.S. I haven't forgotten about all those negative comments that were made when we retired!!

[DEHog]

8th time as a semi-finalist!