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I'm not a Joe Barry fan but if Jay Gruden is the HC and he thinks that Joe Barry is the best fit for DC .. I'm OK with that

I understand the concern about the defense but I'm not sure the DC is the sole reason that the defense sucks


I'm also not ruling Matt Jones out of showing that he can be a productive RB that does not turn the ball over
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SkinsJock wrote:I understand the concern about the defense but I'm not sure the DC is the sole reason that the defense sucks
I don't think Barry is the problem at all. My thinking though is that we have sub-par talent on the defense. If getting the best DC possible can help raise their level of play, I'm all for it.

Like you wrote though, if Gruden prefers to continue with Barry, I'm ok with it.
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SkinsJock wrote:I understand the concern about the defense but I'm not sure the DC is the sole reason that the defense sucks
I don't think Barry is the problem at all. My thinking though is that we have sub-par talent on the defense. If getting the best DC possible can help raise their level of play, I'm all for it. Like you wrote though, if Gruden prefers to continue with Barry, I'm ok with it.
basically that's where I'm at - I'm not sure that we need a new DC as much as we need a huge makeover in personnel

kind of like Bill Parcells used to say - how can anyone expect very much when you don't have the right players
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Deadskins wrote:Yeah, but Ryan sucks. I wouldn't want him to coach my team either.
While I'm usually very conservative about hiring/firing coaches, we should keep an eye on Wade Phillips. His contract is up after Sunday with the Broncos. Always felt he was the DC we should have gone after from the beginning.
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I'd love a couple of guys instead of Joe Barry - Jim Schwartz and Wade Phillips would be good

just not convinced that anyone could have done much better ...
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riggofan wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:I understand the concern about the defense but I'm not sure the DC is the sole reason that the defense sucks
I don't think Barry is the problem at all. My thinking though is that we have sub-par talent on the defense. If getting the best DC possible can help raise their level of play, I'm all for it.

Like you wrote though, if Gruden prefers to continue with Barry, I'm ok with it.
Matt who? hahaha

Also, it seems that many (including me) feel good about HC Jay............ yes I want him to stay for stability and he has been a very productive HC.

So I think Jay stays ----- I don't get all the talk about "can Jay, fire Jay....etc. Shut up already to those people.
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SkinsJock wrote:basically that's where I'm at - I'm not sure that we need a new DC as much as we need a huge makeover in personnel

kind of like Bill Parcells used to say - how can anyone expect very much when you don't have the right players
Damn, SJ. You write such reasonable things when the team is coming off a win! I hope the team doesn't screw up today and set you off!!! :D
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tribeofjudah wrote:Also, it seems that many (including me) feel good about HC Jay............ yes I want him to stay for stability and he has been a very productive HC.

So I think Jay stays ----- I don't get all the talk about "can Jay, fire Jay....etc. Shut up already to those people.
There's always those people in DC. I don't know if its as bad in other cities or not.

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in games that are as important as this, you find out who the real players are ...

right now Kirk Cousins agent is not happy because this is costing he and his player millions
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riggofan wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:basically that's where I'm at - I'm not sure that we need a new DC as much as we need a huge makeover in personnel

kind of like Bill Parcells used to say - how can anyone expect very much when you don't have the right players
Damn, SJ. You write such reasonable things when the team is coming off a win! I hope the team doesn't screw up today and set you off!!! :D
halftime - the team didn't screw up - in order to screw up you need to show up - this is not good so far
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Smithian wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:All Gruden cares about is passing. That's it. He has no concept of a team winning as a whole.
Jay Gruden is a win away from being the first Redskins coach to take them to the playoffs back to back years since Gibbs I. That's after a two year stretch where they won a total of 7 games. And he's done it with changes in the front office, defensive coordinator, and at QB. I'm a Jay Gruden fan. He's not Belichick but he's pretty dang solid.

And I don't know why anyone is surprised the Redskins are pass happy. Jay is part of the Mike Holmgren coaching tree. On down from there, Jon Gruden was known to get pass happy. Every assistant Jon Gruden had who's gone elsewhere has been pretty pass happy, like Trestman and Hackett. Even Bill Callahan, who handles our run game, was known to get too pass happy in Oakland and later at Nebraska. I think the Redskins staff wants to run but between having a pretty darn good passing game and an unsettled running back situation they find it too easy to go all in on the pass game.
As much as I don't like Grudens coaching. I do think he deserves another year. I just fear more mediocrity..sigh..

The Joe Barry hire stood out to me as Gruden not wanting a competent DC who could possibly take his job. Just saying why wouldn't he hire a good DC? Why not now?

Maybe we draft Leonard Fournette? Jabril Peppers? Well see. I still am confident in Scott.
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