StorminMormon86 wrote:Just came here to say name one coach not on this staff who thinks Barry is highly regarded.
who cares - it has been reported a number of times this season that other coaches think that he's a good DC and the MNF crew stated the same thing
I don't happen to think he's all that great, but ... Joe Barry is NOT the main reason that the defense has been so bad
AND
the only thing that matters is what Jay Gruden and Scot think will help this defense next season
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
StorminMormon86 wrote:Just came here to say name one coach not on this staff who thinks Barry is highly regarded.
who cares - it has been reported a number of times this season that other coaches think that he's a good DC and the MNF crew stated the same thing
I don't happen to think he's all that great, but ... Joe Barry is NOT the main reason that the defense has been so bad
Coaches aren't going to come out and say "yeah, that guy sucks" about their peers. Even Jim Haslett often got the "respected around the league" comments, especially from TV commentary staff.
Barry may very well be the main reason the defense is so bad. Either him or the defensive backs coach. I feel like our corners played a lot better in previous years than they're playing right now. Barry's track record is bad, his current defense is bad, and his players have regressed. He's bad. There may be more going on behind the scenes than just Joe Barry's badness, but he still remains bad.
Well, well, the Eagles beat the Giants! What a hoot! We should see the most inspired team in the NFL as the Skins take the field tomorrow. Lets hope for a clean game!
Gp Skins!
our defense is bad because of the players not because of the coaches - we have some good players that we can build around
btw - nice to see Landon Collins playing so well - I wanted to get him
Scot will help our defense by sticking with the BPA and adding guys like norman when we can
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
StorminMormon86 wrote:Just came here to say name one coach not on this staff who thinks Barry is highly regarded.
who cares - it has been reported a number of times this season that other coaches think that he's a good DC and the MNF crew stated the same thing
I don't happen to think he's all that great, but ... Joe Barry is NOT the main reason that the defense has been so bad
Coaches aren't going to come out and say "yeah, that guy sucks" about their peers. Even Jim Haslett often got the "respected around the league" comments, especially from TV commentary staff.
Barry may very well be the main reason the defense is so bad. Either him or the defensive backs coach. I feel like our corners played a lot better in previous years than they're playing right now. Barry's track record is bad, his current defense is bad, and his players have regressed. He's bad. There may be more going on behind the scenes than just Joe Barry's badness, but he still remains bad.
I keep going back to the game when Breeland was getting burned, the man needed help and they had his number. Thats all there was too it, they just had his number. At halftime an adjustment could have been made to put Norman one on one on that receiver (can't remember who, AJ?, one of the best in the league) and no adjustment was made. They just let Breeland hang out there on his own when he knew he needed help. That was the turning point. The man needed help, he needed some support that good coaching would provide. We lost the game and what was promising to be a damn good corner.
Jay Gruden is the HC and he wanted Joe Barry - it's easy to point to coaches and say they don't have a clue ... like some of us do with Jay Gruden - remember when Bill was at Cleveland and everyone knew that all the issues there were because Bill could not coach and was only going to be good as a DC and even then as long as he had a good HC - he's done pretty well considering how reviled he was
we have seen a great change in attitude here and glimpsed moments of brilliance - MNF game was not good for our coaching staff
Joe Barry is not the only reason that this defense is so bad - this defense would be bad no matter who is the DC -
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
welch wrote:It was ugly. Carolina seemed to overpower the Redskins. Ugly. Russ Grimm for head coach. Todd Bowles -- if Jets dump him -- for defensive coordinator.
This is a joke right?
Let's hire as HC an OL coach who was out of work for 4 years instead of keeping our current HC that could potentially lead us to our first back-to-back winning seasons in 20 years..... Gruden has also been pretty good at developing Cousins. You take him away, and my guess is Cousins' development will either go stagnant or regress. And I know that Russ is an all time great, but anyone remember the last time we hired a position coach straight to HC.....
Bowles is a good DC, but we could potentially get him (if he gets fired) now.
This is typical Washington football --- at the first sign of a trouble (and in this case one bad game), lets blow everything up and start over...... like we have been doing since 1997.
Nope. No joke. I want a Redskin team that owns the line of scrimmage, that runs and mashes a defense. That's Russ Grimm as player and coach. Gruden and staff have had an all-pass offense that is about as over-powering as the old "run and shoot". Better to have an OL and DL that mangles opponents.
SkinsJock wrote:Jay Gruden is the HC and he wanted Joe Barry
Wasn't the team trying to get Vic Fangio or some other successful DC? Barry was Plan B or C at best.
SkinsJock wrote:we have seen a great change in attitude here and glimpsed moments of brilliance - MNF game was not good for our coaching staff
That I agree with 100% It's what gives me hope: a young coaching staff and a young team that have a plan and building an identity. I really, really want the core group to see more success. I could handle blowing up after Zorn and maybe Shanahan, but not now; we're actually doing things right. It'd be truly heartbreaking to start over.
I think the best thing the Redskins could do this offseason is bring in a DC that's had a lot of experience and success. The team needs that presence with the HC and OC both being new at their jobs.
I hope there's no change to the coaching staff here this off season - we need to continue the good work already done
the amount of money spent on our offense greatly outweighs what we spent on defense even including the great deal that Norman got
we need to give everyone another season and see what we've got - Jay Gruden got what he wanted, this is his product on the field - if Jay thinks that Joe Barry should be here or be gone, that's up to him
this franchise almost made the playoffs again and we need to continue the good work
that being said, we have a stupid owner ...
these next 2 games are very important and another serious lack of desire game like we saw on MNF would not be a good thing
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
StorminMormon86 wrote:Just came here to say name one coach not on this staff who thinks Barry is highly regarded.
who cares - it has been reported a number of times this season that other coaches think that he's a good DC and the MNF crew stated the same thing
I don't happen to think he's all that great, but ... Joe Barry is NOT the main reason that the defense has been so bad
AND
the only thing that matters is what Jay Gruden and Scot think will help this defense next season
No, TV crews say things about horrible coaches like Barry and Gus Bradley because they are genuinely nice guys, and it sucks to see them get fired (fingers crossed for Barry).
I'd like to see Jay Gruden get fired for not leading this team into the playoffs - but then again you have to consider that Jay Gruden hired a bunch of very good coaches - Sean McVay, Bill Callahan and Joe Barry
firing Jay Gruden would not be a good thing for this franchise and if Jay is here and he thinks that Joe Barry and Bill Callahan and Sean McVay should be rehired, then more power to him
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SkinsJock wrote:I'd like to see Jay Gruden get fired for not leading this team into the playoffs - but then again you have to consider that Jay Gruden hired a bunch of very good coaches - Sean McVay, Bill Callahan and Joe Barry
firing Jay Gruden would not be a good thing for this franchise and if Jay is here and he thinks that Joe Barry and Bill Callahan and Sean McVay should be rehired, then more power to him
You always mail it in this easily? The season isn't over.
