Let's not blame Breeland

[SkinsJock]

these are the coaches and players who are here - good luck playing the what if game ....

we are favored to beat the pukes this week - somebody must have a better opinion of our coaches and players than some here ...

our OC and DC are respected by a lot of knowledgeable NFL guys - that's got to mean something

it was just 1 game in which a number of players and coaches did not have good games

[riggofan]

it was just 1 game in which a number of players and coaches did not have good games

Come on, man. Are you accusing your fellow fans of overreacting to a single game?

[DarthMonk]

This falls on our D coordinator.

Either have Norman cover or Breland and Hall double him. Pretty simple.

That would be Breeland and Hall doubling Antonio Brown while he makes the TD catch.

So who does it fall on now?

Well, Hall should have been the deepest of the three, not the shallowest, and he hasn't even gotten over to where the other two are yet. But the ball was underthrown, Brown turned around and made the catch behind him. Breeland was in perfect position to make the play, but the ball went right between his hands. He should have just batted it away, but he went for the pick and missed. Tough break for Breeland, but Hall was out of position and not in on the play.

Precisely.

So, it wasn't Joe Barry's fault?

Addressing only the TD catches by Brown:

I assign fault on the first one to Breeland. He was right there and made a classic mistake. He tried to cradle a pick instead of aggressively arm raking and batting to ensure an incomplete. It was doubly bad as an end zone pick would've given us the ball at the 20 while an incompete has us taking over on downs at the 29. Also note that if he simply bats the ball down ...

... we are ahead 6-0 with the ball with 10 minutes to go in the 2ND QUARTER, Pitt has 20 yards rushing, and Breeland has a 1st quarter pick.

At this point we would all say Joe Barry, Breeland, and the D are doing a terrific job. Instead, we are beginning to point fingers.


On the 2nd TD I blame Ben and Brown. It was simply a perfect throw against really good coverage by Breeland.


BTW - The offense did not do much to help. We went scoreless for a 29-minute stretch. They kept putting our D out their and the D finally faded.

[riggofan]

Good stuff, DM.

Agree completely with your point about the offense. By the end of the game, watching Brown and Williams put on a show, it was hard to think of much else. But the score at the end of the first half was 14-6. We squandered a turnover that the D created. Settled for FGs twice. Pussed out on a 4th and 1. Really just didn't play aggressively enough like we needed to beat a quality team like the Steelers.

Hope we see a better effort today.

[SkinsJock]

so our defense sucks? - GUESS WHAT - the offense needs to step up their game a lot more than the defense

this was a heartbreaking loss and while Cousins did not play defense he certainly did not help the offense much either

[DaSkinz Baby]

these are the coaches and players who are here - good luck playing the what if game ....

we are favored to beat the pukes this week - somebody must have a better opinion of our coaches and players than some here ...

our OC and DC are respected by a lot of knowledgeable NFL guys - that's got to mean something

it was just 1 game in which a number of players and coaches did not have good games

Again proof that this coaching staff is a joke at best. This is the only team that get's rid of Jim Haslett and hires someone WORSE! Can't even beat a 4th round rookie QB. Call a fade 4 times and it doesn't work. Again penalty's. This team has taken on the identity of it's coach. So hows that Arena League Offense and Joe Barry's defense working for you now. As I said last year was an anomaly get Jay Gruden, Joe Barry and Cousins outta DC. Time to press the restart boys.........

OC and DC respected? LMMFBAO! Respected cause they are easily beat!!

[StorminMormon86]

So can we blame Breeland now?

Or is it all Cousins' fault?

[grampi]

The team starts the season with 2 home games and loses them both, leaving us with sole possession of last place in the division already....this team makes being Skins fan so damn difficult!

[mastdark81]

So can we blame Breeland now?

Or is it all Cousins' fault?

Breeland didn't give up any touch downs. You can live with a few first downs. Thought the defense stopped the Cowboys early from scoring and could have turned them 1 dimensional but the offense, unfortunately was settling for field goals early too.

[StorminMormon86]

So can we blame Breeland now?

Or is it all Cousins' fault?

Breeland didn't give up any touch downs. You can live with a few first downs. Thought the defense stopped the Cowboys early from scoring and could have turned them 1 dimensional but the offense, unfortunately was settling for field goals early too.

He got torched both in week 1 and week 2.

[SkinsJock]

So can we blame Breeland now? Or is it all Cousins' fault?

Wrong ... again

most of us knew that we were going to have issues defensively and we do - these issues are certainly not all due to Breeland who we have been told is a pretty good CB - we also know going in that we'd have to be pretty good on offense in order to have a chance at some success - it's not all Cousins fault but he's the QB and he and his camp think he's a $20M+ talent and this was going to be the season that he was going to go out there and make a statement - it's been pretty bad unless you're just into stats

what do you and the other Cousins fans think about what you've seen from a QB that is highly motivated to play well?

it's certainly not all Breeland's fault and it's not all Cousins fault but Breeland is not a player who thinks he's worth a lot of money

[SkinsJock]

FWIW - right now, Breeland is doing his job a whole lot better than Cousins ...

not that either one is solely responsible for the terrible play we've seen the past 2 games

[DaSkinz Baby]

So can we blame Breeland now? Or is it all Cousins' fault?

Wrong ... again

most of us knew that we were going to have issues defensively and we do - these issues are certainly not all due to Breeland who we have been told is a pretty good CB - we also know going in that we'd have to be pretty good on offense in order to have a chance at some success - it's not all Cousins fault but he's the QB and he and his camp think he's a $20M+ talent and this was going to be the season that he was going to go out there and make a statement - it's been pretty bad unless you're just into stats

what do you and the other Cousins fans think about what you've seen from a QB that is highly motivated to play well?

it's certainly not all Breeland's fault and it's not all Cousins fault but Breeland is not a player who thinks he's worth a lot of money

Joe Barry could have Denver's defense and they would suck. It's not our defense it's our DC!! Why is that so damn hard for people to understand?

[mastdark81]

So can we blame Breeland now?

Or is it all Cousins' fault?

Breeland didn't give up any touch downs. You can live with a few first downs. Thought the defense stopped the Cowboys early from scoring and could have turned them 1 dimensional but the offense, unfortunately was settling for field goals early too.

He got torched both in week 1 and week 2.

Breeland ain't playing at a pro bowl level but who torched him week 2? Dez is Dez...every corner going to get passes caught on him. Defense stopped them and held to field goals. Week 1 he was torched you can say cause he gave up 2 touchdowns...but in reality both were perfect balls thrown to a hall of fame wr with no safety help.

Breeeeeeeland will be fine.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Breeland did just fine this week. In fact I give our D a B- or C+ by giving the O chances to run away with the game. Norman looks as advertised, and thus Bree land is seeing more work. You get more passes your way, your gonna also give up more catches, this IS the NFL. While Breeland HAS shut down Dez before, he is still a top ten wr with a job. Most all his catches were dink and dunks, no big plays.

D got off the field in the later parts of the game and handed captain PICK the reins to victory.... instead he crashed and burned an INT in the end zone.

He didn't even look elsewhere on his three fade route passes that were heavily contested. Only one was possible to catch, only not very likely and would've been a miracle catch. IDK why they couldn't think of anything else... like maybe feed Matt Jones?

I blame Kirk. Now redeem yourself or piss off!

[markshark84]

Breeland did just fine this week. In fact I give our D a B- or C+ by giving the O chances to run away with the game. Norman looks as advertised, and thus Bree land is seeing more work. You get more passes your way, your gonna also give up more catches, this IS the NFL. While Breeland HAS shut down Dez before, he is still a top ten wr with a job. Most all his catches were dink and dunks, no big plays.

D got off the field in the later parts of the game and handed captain PICK the reins to victory.... instead he crashed and burned an INT in the end zone.

He didn't even look elsewhere on his three fade route passes that were heavily contested. Only one was possible to catch, only not very likely and would've been a miracle catch. IDK why they couldn't think of anything else... like maybe feed Matt Jones?

I blame Kirk. Now redeem yourself or piss off!

If you give up 27 points (league average is 22.5 ppg), you don't get a "B- or C+" -- against a below average OFF.

And DAL had 8 drives the entire game, 5 of them scoring, with only 1 REAL 3 and out. DAL's drives were:
- 13 plays, 76 yards (FG)
- 9 plays, 94 yards (TD)
- 10 plays, 43 yards (FG)
- 10 plays, 75 yards (TD)
- 2 plays, 9 yards (Fumble)
- 3 plays, 4 yards (punt)
- 11 plays, 80 yards (TD)
- 3 plays, 1 yard (running/run down the clock objective drive)

HOW IN THE F#$& is that a B-???????

That is HORRIBLE. That is a D- grade AT BEST!!!!!!!

I agree that Cousins' INT in the endzone was demoralizing and horrible, but it was our DEF that allowed them to drive 80 yards down the field on 11 plays for an EASY score.

Right now, our major CLEAR CUT #1 issue is our DEF (collectively ranked 3rd worst in the NFL), then Cousins and OC playcalling (which I can't decide which is worse right now). Absolutely no team should rely on their OFF putting up an average of 33 ppg in order to win games.

[harrytheofiledes]

Breeland had another tough game. The passing D against a rookie QB was bad. Just because they had no TD passes doesnt mean the passing D or Breeland played even OK. They didnt. Despite D line injuries we held them to just 102 yards on 30 carries for a 3.4 AVG.

Cousins was sub par and Grudin abandoned the running game that was averaging 4.8 per carry. Bad coaching on both sides of the ball missed assignments by LBs it was awful yet we still could have won easily. Typical Grudin coached game.

ET

[SkinsJock]

OMG - the excuses - our defense is not good but there's no way we're winning many games if the offense cannot score TDs and cannot find a way to run the ball better

Cousins will be the first to admit that he's stinking up the yard - everybody needs to do better but Cousins needs to do much better

stop making excuse for Cousins and pray (or whatever) that Cousins can elevate his game a lot - he is letting everyone down

[SkinsJock]

Cousins passing stats are not a factor - he needs to find a way to get more TDs and not give the ball away -

Cousins' passing stats look great but the stat that really matters is 1 TD and 3 INTs in 2 games - If he can't do better we're screwed

Cousins doesn't have to winning the passing yardage each week - he needs to stop throwing INTs and start finding a way to get the ball in the end zone - that's the job he has and he's not doing it - Cousins wanted to prove that he's a $20M+ QB and he's done squat

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Breeland did just fine this week. In fact I give our D a B- or C+ by giving the O chances to run away with the game. Norman looks as advertised, and thus Bree land is seeing more work. You get more passes your way, your gonna also give up more catches, this IS the NFL. While Breeland HAS shut down Dez before, he is still a top ten wr with a job. Most all his catches were dink and dunks, no big plays.

D got off the field in the later parts of the game and handed captain PICK the reins to victory.... instead he crashed and burned an INT in the end zone.

He didn't even look elsewhere on his three fade route passes that were heavily contested. Only one was possible to catch, only not very likely and would've been a miracle catch. IDK why they couldn't think of anything else... like maybe feed Matt Jones?

I blame Kirk. Now redeem yourself or piss off!

If you give up 27 points (league average is 22.5 ppg), you don't get a "B- or C+" -- against a below average OFF.

And DAL had 8 drives the entire game, 5 of them scoring, with only 1 REAL 3 and out. DAL's drives were:
- 13 plays, 76 yards (FG)
- 9 plays, 94 yards (TD)
- 10 plays, 43 yards (FG)
- 10 plays, 75 yards (TD)
- 2 plays, 9 yards (Fumble)
- 3 plays, 4 yards (punt)
- 11 plays, 80 yards (TD)
- 3 plays, 1 yard (running/run down the clock objective drive)

HOW IN THE F#$& is that a B-???????

That is HORRIBLE. That is a D- grade AT BEST!!!!!!!

I agree that Cousins' INT in the endzone was demoralizing and horrible, but it was our DEF that allowed them to drive 80 yards down the field on 11 plays for an EASY score.

Right now, our major CLEAR CUT #1 issue is our DEF (collectively ranked 3rd worst in the NFL), then Cousins and OC playcalling (which I can't decide which is worse right now). Absolutely no team should rely on their OFF putting up an average of 33 ppg in order to win games.

Your only seeing what you want to, that's why.

Call it a C+. Passing grade. Average, but got the job done.

For them to hold dullass to 2 field goals, a three and out, AND a turnover is NOT sub-par. For our leader and captain to turn around and Shjt the bed in spite of those gifts is on HIM. He not only screwed the pooch by not capitalizing on the 3 and out and by settling on a Fg on the TO, Kirk also put them back on the field repeatedly with poor throws and missed chances. The drive after the int is ALL on him... how demoralizing to have your LEADER piss the game away in front of your eyes from the 8 yrd line?!?


If you think that Rookie Dak and alllllll them weapons on O "ain spit" then you're mistaken. That's a SOLID group.

Our D did enough to seal the deal for our "high powered offence"

[Bdot]

The Redskins lost the game because the offensive game plan sucked, period. This Cowboys defense cannot stop the run. So only running the ball 15 times when Matt Jones was rolling early and the o-line had a chance to really wear the Cowboys down in the 2nd half, was beyond stupid. They've called 26 runs in 2 games.

RUN.
THE.
BALL.

[DarthMonk]

So can we blame Breeland now?

Or is it all Cousins' fault?

False dilemma. Not all Cousins' fault. His misses are just the biggest reason we lost the Cowboy game.

[SkinsJock]

Certainly not 'all Cousins' fault' - it's just that it's very difficult on everyone when the QB plays badly

we may not have won the Steelers game even with good play from Breeland and Cousins ...

we're not winning many games if this offense does not play a whole lot better

[StorminMormon86]

False dilemma. Not all Cousins' fault. His misses are just the biggest reason we lost the Cowboy game.

They are a huge reason, but I wouldn't call it the biggest. Our defense could have stopped them after the INT and preserved the 23-20 lead we had.

[SkinsJock]

Let's not blame Breeland ...

our defense is not playing great but they are not playing badly because of Breeland ...

our offense is not playing well, not even close - the major/biggest reason for that is Cousins

Cousins is not ever going to be a really good NFL QB - he's just a good NFL QB that is not playing well right now

Kirk Cousins is not a good enough QB to make big plays and he's not going to make this offense better by himself
Cousins just needs to find a way to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers